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Unofficial thus far (continued from Gratitudes post:
Chees (5) - Torqez, sheep, ilf, Glad, TMK
Torqez (6)- Chees, Sunstorm, Grat, Undeath, arms, Lynns
Still to vote: RockOn, Sitting_Duck
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The King's vote has come in... it is for Chees!
Votes so far:
Chees - 6 (Torqez, evilsheep_Naked, Ilfirin, Gladiator, TMK, King)
Torqez - 6 (Chees, Sunstorm, Gratitude, Undeath, arms, Lynns)
Still to vote: RockOn, SittingDuck
Due to the current tie in votes, deadline has been extended to 14:00 GMT.
If it is still tied at the new deadline, there will be no lynch today.
as volunteer to speak for the town group....
interesting development.... the town KNOW torqez has been investigated and found to be mob, now it looks like he may be the king too.
evilsheep_Naked, Ilfirin, Gladiator, TMK if you don't want to look like mobsters please take this opportunity to change your votes before the new deadline.
thank you
Well, that proves my point.
You're clearly throwing a lot of speculation in. Why do I suspect you've been given the wrong info?
Undeath knows who the King is, why? Cos I told him - you're obviously not in touch with him. He's also knows the Prince.
Just when I thought we were starting to coordinate with each other and finally register a win for the townies, you go and throw this all in the heap and cause confusion.
Apologies for being so late... I have had massive problems here with getting online and being able to do anything... Hence why I didnt vote in the last lynch...
Havent been able to follow whats been going on as I havent been on mIRC for a while either...
From reading the last few posts I am gonna go with Torqez, because I am not sure of his sources. He claims to be in contact with a lot of people...
Therefore, voting Torqez.
Chees - 6 (Torqez, evilsheep_Naked, Ilfirin, Gladiator, TMK, King)
Torqez - 7 (Chees, Sunstorm, Gratitude, Undeath, arms, Lynns, RockOn)
Still to vote: SittingDuck
I fail to believe Torqez is mob. Therefore I vote Chees to tie it up again. If Torqez is mob then I have been played completely!
...Btw, if torqez turns out to be mob and my vote saves him then shame on you for not trusting me. Torqez has been the only one who has actually spoken to me and had conversations about what is going on. If he is mob then I have been completely played by him, but no-one else has helped me out so it will serve you all right!
Chees - 7 (Torqez, evilsheep_Naked, Ilfirin, Gladiator, TMK, King, SittingDuck)
Torqez - 7 (Chees, Sunstorm, Gratitude, Undeath, arms, Lynns, RockOn)
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The remaining castle citizens had been gathered in the courtyard for most of the day making their vote decisions. There were two main choices today, but by the time the bell tolled to signal the beginning of nightfall, there was no clear lynchee decided.
As darkness began to descend, voters were given a further two hours to deliberate their decision. A couple of latecomers turned up to add their opinions to the debate, but it still didn't sway the result.
At 14:00 GMT, the full moon was already high in the night's sky and voters agreed to retire for the night. It was too dangerous to be hanging around the castle grounds at this time. They would continue this discussion tomorrow.
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It is now the **** NIGHT **** phase
Everyone with night-time abilities has until 20.00 GMT to cast their votes!
1. why all of a sudden would the mob be after me? of course he has done a lot for the town, i told him to start the vote on eltara and zoz, as the knight requested that i find a 3rd party who would be willing to do it. i have the convo's logged if anyone wishes to see them.
2. knowing this, and knowing that he is the only one left alive who believes me to be the knight, there is no other logical answer than Torqez having been switched to mob.
again think about it, he came forth and announced zoz as mob due to an investigation. if the mob believed the knight was coming to torqez, or even better that torqez is the knight who else would you switch?
what happened at this point is
1. they switched torqez
2. he tells them im the one giving him the info
3. they waste 2 kills tryin to kill a townie, which although it makes me giggle is a slight bit irritatiting
and btw mobbies, this vote has brought out ooooooodles
if you are town, vote torqez.
examples
[07:39] <Torqez> <Eltara> Well played Torqez.
[07:39] <Torqez> <Eltara> We know now you're the cop.
[07:39] <Torqez> <Torqez> ..err....
[07:39] <Torqez> <Torqez> I'm not...but sorry to have gotten u lynched!! See you Mafia #16? 
[07:41] <Torqez> can u tell the cleric to save me tonight?....im 100% sure they're gonna try to kill me tonight
this was before the first night they tried to kill me. he believes i know the cleric, so tried to get me to have them save him so i would get killed.
You people are fools... SD you just made yourself look like mob by that vote, and i was believing you could be a townie. I told you all Torqez was investigated and he was and he was found to be mob.... i am telling you this again myself to continue to protect the knight.... i am expendable, he is not.
.... you might try listening in future.
I suppose at least we know who to have investigated tonight now. 
Torqez, yes you told me who the king was, and i can only believe that you know who he was now as like a n00b he saved you.
first of all king, if you are not mob, cut your contact with torqez. if you vote with him again, i can only assume he started out mob and they switched you and that you are also mob, which would save our knight an investigation.
SD, you sir are either mob or a complete and utter fool. Again, saves our knight an investigation
And anyone who wants proof of who is really giving the info out, please feel free to ask Torqez or myself for our pm's. O and here's a reallly fun little kicker for the mob fellows up there. Ask your body for a single instance when i said i was the knight
ok here's my problem with this
why did i have to wake up with no lynching, are you guys on mafia's side or townies side?
cuz you helped mafia in the day, i was told chees was investigated(btw, there's like a million people who think they're cop 
and a million who think someone else is cop what gives?)
Why give up chees, i don't know, i'm not sure about torqez yet either, i gotta go back check the records again, but WHY give up someone who was investigated to be mafia for torqez?
EVEN if he was switched, we could've got chees lynched, why'd you guys have to tie the vote
and next time post in the begining of night if u have something to say, cuz it's very frustrating to wake up after lynching to find it was tied but there was a theory on the table that people could judge one.. X(
i had 2 mates surprise me and come up last night, so i was obligated to go out... 
@ Undeath, pfft
"Ask your body for a single instance when i said i was the knight"
[06:54] <Undeath> well
[06:54] <Undeath> btw
[06:54] <Undeath> if i get killed tonight
[06:54] <Undeath> lynnz, you, and gratitude are the only ones left that know im the cop
ffs, thank god I didn't get killed tonight. I'm not sure wtf you guys are doing to jeopardise us winning.
Go and have a look at the voting. I'm the one that got Eltara lynched when the first switched happen. Eltara was mob. I also suspected Chees (I even started the votes against him) and then having discussions in PM with Undeath and Lynns, it seemed I was convinced he wasn't. Thats why I switched with the rest of the people went TU - oh boy was that a mistake.
Undeath, I don't know why you're being so stupid. If you've played me - you've played me sooo wrongly. I KNOW your not mob - else mob wouldnt have tried to kill you two nights in a row. If you're not the knight, then I dont know why you havnt shared more information. I trust Lynns to be townie - because ever since the start, she's had a good feeling about her (or maybe she always has that feeling? 
). Regardless!! I'm pretty sure Grat is the guy thats been switched now (or maybe it could be Lynns. Infact, judging by voting history (omg and I encourage you to go through it), Lynns might even be mob since the outset - she only followed whatever I had to say - but anyway thats a different story). Pretty sure Chees was mob, based on the TU vs Chees thing - but why did you guys convince me otherwise?
Either he's (Grat) the one that claims to be the Knight and is playing you, or you're being played by someone else.
Ffs get your act together. We're soo close, yet so far.
how can the king be a traitor? if you're not iwth the king you're a traitor
lol torqez, i'm impressed with you i have to say.
i look forward to more games with you.
time will tell everyone who is telling the truth here. I know I am, and I know you are not.... let the fates decide. You are starting to panic now, accusing too many people, experienced players will see through you now, those in the town group already know you were investigated as mob.... we think you were town and turned mob but don't know that bit for certain.
SD i thought we were talking with you, but ofc that was thru torqez who may not have fed you too much true stuff the last couple of days. talk with me if you want to know more.
Go town!
Not if the king had been switched yell im thinking
Im not panicking, nor am I being hasty.
I'm pretty sure through my reasoning Chees is mob, and now you've managed to able to save him. I dont know whats going on, because out of everyone, you and Undeath i trusted. I feel a tad upset that all the hardwork is going to waste, and that townies are starting to falter.
Ever since the start we had a nice group of townies going forward and things were well on course for us. As of late, you three have been causing confusion and in the process we've already lost a townie. You Undeath and Grat have something going on. It's obvious Undeath is being manipulated - and if you're not the one playing them, I feel that you've also been exposed to it.
Thanks for the compliments though, interesting why you didn't address any of the points in my post and just start the whole spiel about 'inexperience' 'panic' 'fate' etc.
I may not have enough experience to play this game, but I do recognise suspicous play when I see it.
[OH AND BTW, TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT]
lol, The Yell & Grat.
we were discussing this king 'switch' thing too in #mafia earlier. To add interesting gameplay, i was suggesting that next time they change it up! I mean if the King got switched and become a traitor, shouldnt that mean all the traitors become 'Kings subjects' and that all the townies become traitors? ...lol go go arsy/elro - make it happen!
[END OF OUT OF CONTEXT POST!!]
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On request, the next post:
ARSY AND ELROHIR BOUGHT A SPACESHIP AND FLED FROM THE CASTLE. UNDEATH LOVES PUPPIES, GAME OVER.
See you in mafia 16!
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It had been getting much colder lately, but this night in particular had started off as an especially cold one. It was not strange that many residents had brought out extra blankets and clothing from their winter stores, some even gathered extra logs for the fire to get a good, warm night's rest.
But not everyone was trying to sleep, three figures were sneaking down one of the corridors of the castle. Walking on the top of their toes they tried be as silent as possible. Arriving at the chambers of their target, one of the traitors picked the lock and opened the door.
A gush of wind rushed into their faces as they entered the room. Both windows were wide open and the bed was completely empty.
Traitor 2: "What is this for trickery? Where is he?"
Traitor 1: "He can't have left long ago - his bed is still warm."
Traitor 2: "Check the room guys!"
The other traitor entered the room and joined his friends as they started to look for their victim. Alarmed by several loud thuds, the traitors jumped up and looked around in the room and noticed that both the door and the windows had slammed shut. Two of the traitors tried to open the door, but it would not open.
Traitor 3: "Uhh guys, is it me or are the walls moving?"
The traitors started to panic as indeed the walls started to close in on them. Two of the traitors tried to push the walls back as the other one attempted to get through the door. But whatever he tried, the door would not go open.
Traitor 2: "It can't end like this."
The traitor sank to his knees as his claustrophobia got the better of him and started to weep softly. The walls were drawing closer and closer and it was not long until they would be totally crushed. The other traitors were about to give up as the door suddenly opened and a figure stood in the opening.
Traitor 4: "I knew I heard something, you guys were weeping weren't you?"
The traitor laughed loudly as he helped them up.
Traitor 3: "Thank the gods we seduced you."
Just after the traitor finished his sentence the final traitor got blasted through the doorpost against the bed breaking several of the wooden boards.
A man with hands glowing as white as snow entered the room and stared at the three other mobsters who were backing up slowly. The sorcerer slowly raised his hands and large white beams thrusted out of his hands hitting two of the mobsters in the chest causing them to be thrown back. He then phased directly behind the remaining traitor and firmly punched him the back with a flat hand which fired the traitor threw the door. He quickly turned around as the other traitors started to come at him again. He responded by phasing through the room, jumping from spot to spot, appearing only a short moment to hit one of the traitors before phasing out again.
The sorcerer phased out once more, but when he phased back, one of the traitors had reached the remaining lit chandelier and swiftly crushed it. The room was covered in complete darkness and before the sorcerer could light up the room he got jumped from behind. He tried to phase away, but the traitor got phased with him. And with this extra weight he could not phase further then the door and the moment he was visible again, two other traitors jumped on top of him holding him down.
The final traitor walked up towards the sorcerer holding a large knife. "Your time of protecting this castle is over." He said as he leaped towards the sorcerer and slammed the knife hard into his heart. The Sorcerer of Light howled in pain as he felt the magical essence slowly lift from his body at the same time as his life faded away. A moment later and all that was left was the lifeless body of Gratitude.
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It is now **** DAY **** again!
All remaining castle citizens have until 12:00 GMT on Monday to post their lynch votes in the forum!
ffs, okay now this is getting really bad. You guys are wavering, creating confusion and I wouldnt be surprised if we lose becaues of it. We had this game by the scruff of the neck, and now you guys are losing it.
Undeath, I'm posting our chat in #mafia, so that those who weren't present can also see my and your confusion. My thoughts regarding all of this is after the logs. I know its a long chat history, but for those of you really interested in finding these mob, I suggest you read through it and consider what we're talking about:
10:16 Gratitude hehe my death goes to the greater good
10:16 Undeath without your death, one of the mobs never would have been found
10:16 Gratitude exactly
10:17 Gratitude off to get food
10:17 Gratitude brb
10:17 Undeath i figure ill speak with them b4 i bring it out into the open tho
10:17 Undeath they deserve a chance to defend themselves
10:17 Torqez|AtWork undeath..
10:17 Gratitude burn him/her at the stake!
10:18 Undeath Torqez, stop trying to convince me that you are town. i am the one the knight talks to, i am the one that fed you your info, i know that you are mob
10:18 Undeath dont waste your time
10:18 Torqez|AtWork u need to prove to me then, why u think the knight hasnt been converted
10:19 Il_ZoZecksi knights shouldnt be converted
10:19 Il_ZoZecksi speak like that to a real live medieval Templar Knight
10:19 Il_ZoZecksi he'd gnwaw your face off
10:19 Undeath proof is pending
10:19 Torqez|AtWork lol
10:19 Undeath must speak with someone
10:19 Torqez|AtWork lol
10:19 Torqez|AtWork so u just admit to not knowing if the knight has been converted or not
10:20 Undeath as last night either revealed another mob, or the mods missed something
10:20 Torqez|AtWork so its true then ...ur being manipulated
10:20 Undeath please
10:20 Undeath go post this in the forum
10:20 Undeath and than argue about how i am being manipulated
10:20 Torqez|AtWork thats the stupid thing
10:20 Undeath go into a proof battle with me
10:21 Undeath make it ezier for me to have you lynched
10:21 Torqez|AtWork obviously ur trying to figure out the good here ...i just cant fathom why u dont believe me
10:21 Undeath i do have one question though
10:21 Torqez|AtWork "torq got investigated so i know ur mob" ...and then " oh proof is pending tonight if the knight im in touch with, hasnt been switched or not" ....yea...ok...
10:22 Undeath give me about 2 hours, and ill post all my proof
10:23 Torqez|AtWork btw
10:23 Torqez|AtWork how do u explain ur lying to me?
10:23 Torqez|AtWork "show me proof where i said im knight"
10:23 iluvatar hmm
10:23 Torqez|AtWork or rather, lying to everyone ...since that post of urs wasnt directed at me
10:23 iluvatar nuts and milk dont combine
10:23 Undeath i never once said i was the knight
10:23 Undeath
10:24 Torqez|AtWork do u deny those logs of u then?
10:24 Undeath i believe you asked me once, and i said yes in response to a prior question, but just let it sit
10:24 Undeath show me a log where i claim to be the knight
10:24 Torqez|AtWork i posted in the forum already
10:24 Undeath point me to it
10:24 Undeath im missing it
10:25 Undeath pardon i see it
10:25 Torqez|AtWork ya, im just wondering what else youve missed
10:25 Undeath not exactly, because to their knowledge i am the cop
10:26 Undeath i well, sort of
10:26 Undeath i sent similar messages to 4 ppl
10:26 Torqez|AtWork and now ur back peddling
10:26 Undeath do your self a favor, and dont bother backing me into a corner
10:26 Undeath because if im right about what happened, all will be revealed in the next few hours
10:27 Undeath and town will be certain of their next 2 votes
10:27 Torqez|AtWork look undeath...i trust u ...i dont trust ur source ...i dont know why ur being so offenseive on me. we were going perfectly fine as we were, until some stuff got stirred up ..and now townies are wavering ..its effecting us
10:27 Undeath attempt to back me into a corner all you wish, but grat dying last night was a huge mistake by either the converted townie10:28 Undeath or my source has false info
10:28 Torqez|AtWork why on earth would i back u into a corner?
10:29 Torqez|AtWork i imagine it to be the latter ....i know ur on my side, im just wondering who's turned u against me
10:29 Undeath theres another possibility
10:29 Undeath but it doesnt add up
10:30 Torqez|AtWork im willing to listen ..and u know ive been since the beginning. all i've been trying to do is help us win
10:30 Torqez|AtWork dont forget, ur the one that approached me
10:30 Torqez|AtWork u said vote zoz ...and i started the movement
10:30 Undeath how long will you be around
10:30 Torqez|AtWork u said vote eltara ...and is tarted the movement
10:31 Torqez|AtWork u said vote chees, and i started the movement ....and then after discussions, u said to consider changing to TU
10:31 Torqez|AtWork so i did
10:31 Undeath i said i couldnt decided about tu or chees
10:31 Undeath i got back from class and every1 had switched
10:31 Undeath :S
10:32 Torqez|AtWork yea, u werent the only one that mentioned it to me
10:32 Torqez|AtWork lyns said the same thing ...and then SD, and sunstorm did too
10:33 Torqez|AtWork i'll be around on and off ..for the next 7 hrs (am at work)
10:33 Torqez|AtWork then i'll be home
10:33 Undeath ok
10:33 Undeath ill catch you later...im off to write an essay...and piece together a few loose ends
10:34 Torqez|AtWork np
10:34 Torqez|AtWork btw
10:34 Torqez|AtWork did u get into ur class?
10:34 Torqez|AtWork i was just doign the same thing yesterday for my brother ...so was wondering if u got in or not, lol
10:35 Undeath not yet
10:35 Undeath :S
10:35 Undeath omg
10:35 Undeath im so pissed at this game right now
10:36 Undeath i have everything together until they throw screwed up twists at me
10:36 Undeath yea
10:36 Undeath thats right arsy and elro
10:36 *** evilsheep_Naked joined #mafia
10:36 +++ ChanServ has given voice to evilsheep_Naked
10:36 iluvatar
10:36 Undeath im talkin about you too
10:36 Ezekiel we only laugh
Take special note of the convo at 10.19am (my time), where Undeath says his proof is 'pending' regarding the Knight being innocent or not. Undeath, I WANT to believe you, and i want you to trust me, but I seriously think someone is playing you and you are unsure of whats going on.
IM unsure of whats going on too. You were my source, and now now I cant even rely on you for info (eg u were wrong about TU, and that's hurt us bad). Judging from our convo, you're unaware of the source as well now. I'll wait the couple of hours for you and then you let me know how to proceed. Possibly you've been talking to sunstorm? He's a bit questionable and then he voted for me first... I dont know why, but for some reason i think im being used as an escape goat here and it pisses me off, because everything was on track up until the switch.
Anyway for those of you at the logs, plz also look at 10.23am. Its where undeath claims he didnt tell me that he's the knight. But after i've ALREADY posted the logs, and now ur saying u told this to 4 other ppl? Btw this isnt to implicate you or anything, its just to show people that I'm not making up that you told me ur the Knight. I'm not sure what you're playing at undeath, but I'm guessing whoevers 'controlling' you, is doing it really well.
Anyway, for this reason, I'm gonna put my vote on Lynns.
Lynns, *hunny*, I think ur the switched person, and I'm doubting ur credibilty. Especially since you'd ridicule my post without even giving me proper answers.
I'm not entirely convinced tho ..and will still wait for Undeaths's "pending confirmation". I really dont know whats going on, and all I can hope is that we kill a mobie. I hope you guys realise theres still 4 out there, and soon we're going to run out of time.
Ohh as a side note. The night of the switch, the next day i started the movmeent to get Eltara lynched. I find it interesting that he voted for you. Just like his "ooh that was ironic" attempt at throwing suspcion off himselve when mob saved him from the Genesis (SK) kill, was this yet another attempt to throw away suspicion at you? I dont know why he'd vote Lynns otherwise.
Anyway for now,
My vote = Lynns
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