Yeah i understand that

But we have all been in smaller fams before

I mean ive been stuck in a inactive fam for the past month it sucks i know that

Plus i know a few of the players in the last two fams and they arent new

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right

Just my 2 cents on a separate issue... but since the round is going to be 33% shorter would it not make a bit more sense to get this show on the road a bit quicker.... lets say with normal resources for PW at least (5X), dare I say 7X....

rofl ?

Increase resources with shorter round would help; there will be explo'ing the entire round this round I assume.

As for the smaller families, Players in the top 12 families think they should be split up, then leave them be. When they do something stupid like explore in your core let them stay. Let them play the game.  If they make an attack against you and fail message them nicely giving them a better target to attack, do this instead of completely raping them and their family for exploring in your core or for making an attack against you. If they win an attack against you than you need better defenses, simply retake your planet and then take their one planet out of your system but do not rape them like mentioned earlier.

These are the things that make people leave. You want to be most honorable, then leave them alone, let them play their game.  If you say it is part of them game, well it is in a since, except it is a flaw in the game that has not been addressed.

As for them not all being new players, even the most experienced player cannot take down an entire family. They are no threat to anyone that is in a family in the top 12. I say top 12 because they still should be able to attack and should stick with families more their size as a family level instead of a player nw level.

I know too long of a post for most to read, but I am bored round needs to start

Nah, post was fine, but I'm the post length whore I guess...anywho, of course m8, or they could just change the NW rule to 50% instead of 35%... but the thing is, anyone can jump pure fleet, so... someone that is 2mill NW worth of infra, defensive fleet and research points... could be hypothetically taken down by someone that is less than 50% of their NW.... and if you tried to retake, you just blow the planets... but really.... that doesn't happen too often... however, pure fleet players can do quite a bit of damage even @ 35% or less of another's NW. (I'm just stating that scenario to be fair to how the current system works.....   but I do agree that, for example: 2mill NW players shouldn't really be specifically targeting players under 1 mill NW, just because they can... but even then, 2 mill VS 1mill.... is not really fair either, unless of course that 1 mill player is mostly fleet, in which case the scenarios work both ways and make it quite difficult to accommodate everyone... so honour... indeed...

Cloud has a point, but realistically, we know what fams SmallE is referring to and I believe he means that when the top player of that family is just in range of the bottom player in your family... Other than that, just ignore Cloud...

Yea, sorry I was not trying to say to not attack people. I was just saying that certain families, like the 4 player families that had 6 players less than 24 hours ago that are having people delete already to rejoin a larger one.

But I can say that there are players who target them and have seen it discussed many times, has been this round already and it hasn't even started yet.

Nw range is a complete other story.

I was mainly talking about the complete uneven families. The families with the 11-13 players who target the couple families that have 4-5 players. Like you Said Cloud, and like I was trying to mean by letting them stay when they explore. They are not going to ever be a threat to you since they will be out of range anyway. But it is that small time they are in range. We all know how discouraging it is to get attacked in the begining. The small families take it even harder because they have that much less resources to go on.

How are they a threat Cloud?

If you have 12 players and they have 4 what could they possibily do to harm you? They would just not have enough income to fight you off...... So im sorry but attacking a small fam and then saying hey we all start with same NW thats bs

But i agree with you on the fact we all attack small times at a certain time... Aslong as we dont rape them its not really a problem..

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right

i just simply cant be bothered to read all the long posts

i think FA and cloud have too much spare time on their hands   FA have a couple more kids     Cloud get a girlfriend/boyfriend what-ever your into   

who's where?

im here