Re: Marijuana decriminalized in Massachusetts
I added "or assess its instrumental value." I mentioned that because you can consider the tax break as a family incentive.
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I added "or assess its instrumental value." I mentioned that because you can consider the tax break as a family incentive.
/me waits for NY thugz to grab they nines and pickup trukz and bust some hippie tie-dye Clam Chowdah gardenerz for they groceries
Go Massachusetts.
> CanadianTire wrote:
> Question: Why is a population that is 10-15% homosexual and 85-90% heterosexual (estimates) voting on legislation that only affects homosexual people? I seems that allowing such a large majority with no personal stake in the matter is biased.
It's like asking Americans to vote on where or not which form of the English language should be taught in British schools. They have no personal stake in the matter, and it won't cause them any physical harm. Only, when reading signs on travels, they wouldn't have to stop locals and ask what the word "colour" means.
10-15% is a very, very inflated number ![]()
actually studies show that 3% of the population is openly gay. Because there may be some population that is secretly gay. So we could add +2% to that. 5% of the population is gay.
Homosexuality, like liberalism, is a mental disorder. But this thread is about weed.
<Good for the gay marriage ban in California.....
Good Christ, another raging homophobe. What's that matter, BW, afraid that gay marrying will invalidate your own marriage? Or does it make you less secure about your own sexuality?
Come off it. What the hell does it matter to ANYONE if two men or two women want to get married? Next you'll be telling us we should take the right to vote away from women, or blacks should ride on the back of the bus...
I say let the gays marry, they deserve the right to be miserable and lose half their stuff as much as anyone. Personally I don't understand why people would want to get married in the first place, but then I've yet to observe a marriage that didn't end at best badly and at worst violently.
>>What the hell does it matter to ANYONE if two men or two women want to get married?<<
Legitimizing psychologically unhealthy behavior is always done by nation-states on the decline. It's transformed from a mental health issue to a government-supported lifestyle choice. Everything starts to get grey when you do not distinguish between those two anymore.
Dog racing is British/aristocratic/elitist/anti-republican.Thats why it is banned.
," because marriage is a stupid institution of archaic origin. There is no reason to expand the inclusion of an institution that confers no benefits that can't be legally given by a court,"
getting married makes it so its illigal to have sex with other people!!
>Legitimizing psychologically unhealthy behavior is always done by nation-states on the decline.
Unhealthy? How is homosexuality "unhealthy"?! Is being German "unhealthy"? How about Canadian? One can't help being gay, any more than the color of one's skin or nation on birth. And I'd say, at least in the United States, we're FAR from "supporting" homosexuality.
>>One can't help being gay, any more than the color of one's skin or nation on birth.<<
This is some BS that enough people decided to agree is fact, like man's contribution to "global warming" --wait wait, it's "extreme climate change" now-- so as long as they don't talk to anyone else they don't have to actually use science to support the claim. Psychologists and sociologists have been studying homosexuality for a long, long time. You don't have a majority agreeing with you.
>Psychologists and sociologists have been studying homosexuality for a long, long time. You don't have a majority agreeing with you.
Dude, you're an idiot. You obviously don't know a single gay person. Maybe you are aquainted with one or two, which I doubt from your bigoted stance, but you don't actually KNOW any gay people.
More than 80% of my closest friends are gay and lesbian. This has been the case my entire life, from teenage years on. Every single one of these people lived a life of shame and tried to be something they were not, until they'd had enough and faced what they actually were. Not a single one of them made a choice to be gay or lesbian; they just WERE.
The ignorance just never ceases to amaze me...
Ha, funny that. On the other side of the Atlantic in the Netherlands, things are looking grim for softdrugs, coffeeshops and smartshops. We won't be the pot capitol of the world much longer. Oh and the Red Light District, whilst maintaining it's erotic background will slowly but surely be running out of legal window prostitutes. ![]()
Shame about the pot though, the only reason why the drugs policy is under pressure is because softdrugs are condoned, not legalised. As such there still is a big gap between the users and the legal/white market, that is being filled with criminal elements. Legalise pot already, damnit! Fat chance of that happening though.
Two thirds of the country is against closing the coffeeshops, yet they still want to close them. The argument being that there's problems with people from other countries going to the border regions and this supposedly causes some troubles. Also they're saying that because there's coffeeshops, organised crime flourishes.
First one can be solved by either requiring a dutch passport for weed or moving the coffeeshops out of city centers, second one by legalising weed, setting up government grow farms and requiring coffeeshops to buy their weed there. Prohibition just means that everything goes to the organised crime.
However the current government are a bunch of ideologic christian turds with no backbone against international pressure.
I mean what are other countries gonna do? impose sanctions? see how they'd like sanctions in return for everything that goes through Rotterdam, biggest port in the world... and we're helping in Afghanistan while the rest of Europe is sitting on their asses so the US owes us one too. The government can easily get away with legalising weed, even more so because there's plenty of scientific evidence that going bac to illegality will only make things worse.
I hope Obama will move the US some more towards making weed legal, believe he did spoke out for it in the past. Maybe then our spineless government will perceive some less pressure against doing the right thing.
Why are 80% of your closest friends gay and lesbian, shipman? You defy statistics. Are you gay and you only associate with other homosexuals? Or are you as ignorantly biggotted against straight people as you were in responding to my post?
I've known many gay people in my lifetime. Most of them are not my close friends. I just don't have that much in common with guys who act like girls. The vast majority I've known had relatively significant psychologically distress (not counting their sexuality as such).
I like how I'm an idiot because your friends say sociology and psychology are pretend.
@v.kemp:
I'm sorry, you're not an idiot, that was rude of me. I'm straight and it just worked out that most of my friends are gay and lesbian. I have no bigotry toward straight people; like people in general, most are useless and some are decent. And many of the gay men I know are more masculine than straight men I deal with on a daily basis.
As for the gay people you've known having significant "psychological distress": talk to a random sampling of any group of people, and you'll find that most of them believe they have psychological issue and need some drug to help them. They live in a society that tells them that, so they now have something "wrong" with them.
In regards to sociology and psychology being pretend - they might as well be. They are not absolute sciences, like chemistry and biology. Psychologists have no more idea why things happen in a person's head then laypeople do.
>>And many of the gay men I know are more masculine than straight men I deal with on a daily basis.<<
Nonsense. In the past 20 years or so the [w00f!] of Amerika has resulted in these half-breeds. They're all gay. They're just too dumb to know it.
I wasn't talking about their own opinions of themselves. I have a psychologist buddy from college and a few other friends with degrees in psychology (having studied it a lil myself. fascinating stuff). I don't associate with many people who consider themselves mentally ill and in need of medication. I was just speaking from the experience of those I knew well enough to be well-aware the distress was there and real.
I don't have anything against homosexuals. I'm an avid fan of the individual; to each his own. It's really none of my business. It doesn't hurt me.
Half of my post was just playing the devil's advocate. But after saying the line above this one one time, a man asked me: "What if it was your kids?" It's true that I don't see it as mentally healthy.
I'm still amazed at how you made such a small minority %wise such a huge majority %wise of your friends. ![]()
A lot of sociology studies on the subject beg the question of causality. Are the trends prevalent among homosexuals (which differ significantly from those of heterosexuals) the CAUSE of their sexual preference? Or just a result? If only a result, those studies mean nothing. ![]()
In any case, I do think studying the subject is better than 99% of the retards who have strong views and have no idea what they're talking about--on both sides of the issue.
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