i love how you try to turn everything into a fight. cant someone talk to you, or must we scream? talking to you is like talking to a six year old in a toy store who wants something.

I try to be nice, but whats the use, just going to get barked at because you think you're god's gift to IC.

^^ It is amazing what 6 double scotch on the rocks can do to one's eloquence when writing on forums... and I have more meetings tomorrow!
! *ugh headache incoming* . albeit not as entertaining as tonight were.... hic!

PRE-WAR
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17     The Can Openers (1455)     1324     8276463     67100

vs.

28     DEM BOYZ (1418)     639     5204593     39687
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CURRENTLY
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17       The Can Openers (1455)       1369      9077159      71913

vs.

29       1455 WAR US AND IM DRUNK HATE (1418)       587      4028891      41836

Beating up on a fam 12 ranks under you and your up 45 planets after 2 days?

tsk.tsk.tsk.

Tim don't go around saying gary makes everythign into an arguement. If all i read was your posts id say your a total douche.

and we told our bankers to go into v-mode. You may want this to be a long term war well so do we. WE have two new players coming soon, I joined the fam and will continue to be assistance. Don't worry eventually we'll be in your cores and when we do maybe you guys can go in vmode big_smile

lol, talk about leading a fam to the ground, big gary

artic i played with you before and you deleted on us with your banker, you did on gary again this round...stop talking.

since when did i threaten your fam without reason...and why do you say i have poor leadership? If your going to make bold claims, do me a favor and back them up at least.

you still never answered "since when did i threaten your fam without reason"..oh yeah tharts because ur talking out of ur ass. and just because inactive people left my family doesnt mean my leadership skills are poor lol. look at your skills, 12 ranks ahead up 50 planets, your fam is a JOKE. i rape you.

Not really sure what the point is for me writing here cause Big Gary is amazing in convincing himself he is right and turning everything around. As most of the talk and communication was made through MSN i will paste parts of the conversation which clarifies the whole situation. I will also explain and back up my side of the story (obviously there is garys side aswell).

[too much to edit out]

And after talking to my family we decided to cancel the 48h NAP instead of making just another list that would be submitted to gary. From my point of view, the point here is that we agreed initially that there would be a swap-out of planets from our core and we could compensate 1418 by  newly explored planets. They then said no to this and while i was checking it up with my family Gary said I agreed to sharing cores, which I never did. Just the point that he refused to swap out of our cores after the NAP was signed with that as a requirement is a nap violation in my book, i then consulted my family and asked what they thought and what they wanted to do and we came to the conclusion after several days that it is just to much of a hassle and at that point i was getting tired of gary treating my like a piece of shit so we cancelled the NAP which obviously allowed, we then waited 48 hours honoring the NAP. During these 48 hours our bankers got opped by 1418 which in itself is a NAP violation, but we decided to honor the NAP anyway. After that, Gary attacked in my books 1 tick to early as I had sent him a ingame msg telling him when the NAP ended in response to a message from him asking me when it ended.

Sorry for the long post, not sure if this is allowed in the forum but I thought it is the only way how to defend my argument with facts as otherwise it would just be pointless talk with no facts and accusations would just fly all over the place.

the facts? like the fact that your leader just copy and pasted the parts of the conversation that fit his story, instead of EVERYTHING that was said?

"They then said no to this and while i was checking it up with my family Gary said I agreed to sharing cores, which I never did. Just the point that he refused to swap out of our cores after the NAP was signed with that as a requirement is a nap violation in my book"

I didnt str8 up say no, i ran it by you first and you were cool with it on msn, but of course u dont post that convo

alright, guess the convos made the post to long as it got deleted by the mods. FYI gary that was the whole convo except the times when u wrote to me in the middle of the night telling me u want to have sex with me or unnecessary swearing and shouting etc. Doesnt matter now though, but if anyone is interested or bothered about the truth just msg me ingame and i can send the whole convo to you through msn.

This is the last post i will make if nothing constructive needs to be posted or commented as this threads sole purpose was to inform the rest of the players that there is a war going on and to comment about the progression of that war. Seeing how the thread turned out it has lost its purpose.