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as soon as i find my notebook from freshman year ethics class (the only place they really mention hume or care about him for 2 seconds) i'll be sure to lay down some hate on him. for now i'll go digging elsewhere for some dirt on that has been.


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yes we do, those little bastards just have minds of their own.....and tails

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Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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Why is this in politics?

"In a world of global deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

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The tradition is that philosophy also goes in to politics.

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plus they're both bullshit so it all works out smile

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Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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only continental philosophy is, with a few exceptions.

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only? exceptions? word choice?

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Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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32 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 11-Nov-2008 19:46:03)

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In my view, a philosophy is nonsense if it does not accommodate empirical facts, is not logically consistent, and is not written clearly. Philosophy becomes nonsense when we talk about things like monads with Leibniz, or just about anything with the continentals who cater to a popular audience, say ambiguous things to sound profound, but really say something meaningless like "truth is a terrorist." A lot of the philosophers on the continent of Europe offer meaningless philosophies, Hegel especially.

Sadly the Analytic tradition is fast becoming BS too.

It is also a similar case with politics. Realpolitik or political realism is very useful and it comports to empirical facts, but it really isn't as popular as the field of normative politics. Second, most empirical politics is done with polls and statistics, and there's no concern with an underlying theory behind it.

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personally i like doublethink

and any sort of philosoph that just rambles and rambles about nothing at all while bitching at everything.

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Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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>>Where did I say that rape is acceptable? Quote me exactly.<<

>>Rape is either wrong or it is not, I choose not.<<

>>Rape is only wrong because society says it is is wrong<<

And this retard questions my intelligence. It's NOT wrong, but it's NOT acceptable. It must be some magical state which is neither morally acceptable nor morally unacceptable.

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As long as you ramble on and use pretty words between the points where you contradict yourself, you are wise!

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> V.Kemp wrote:
> >>Where did I say that rape is acceptable? Quote me exactly.<<
>>Rape is either wrong or it is not, I choose not.<<
>>Rape is only wrong because society says it is is wrong<<
And this retard questions my intelligence. It's NOT wrong, but it's NOT acceptable. It must be some magical state which is neither morally acceptable nor morally unacceptable.<<


What you have there is a typo, I put wrong instead of right, something you would have picked up on if you had not apparently been reading selectively as in all other posts I state quite clearly that I do not consider rape acceptable.
Sorry for any confusion caused.

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well, if morality is subjective; when a woman is raped, its her fault she's scared. if she wasnt so frugal; it wouldnt be a big deal, she's to blame for her own suffering.

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> well, if morality is subjective; when a woman is raped, its her fault she's scared. if she wasnt so frugal; it wouldnt be a big deal, she's to blame for her own suffering.>

... You need help.

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39 Reply by avogadro (edited by avogadro 12-Nov-2008 22:49:22)

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> Justinian I wrote:

> > avogadro wrote:

> well, if morality is subjective; when a woman is raped, its her fault she's scared. if she wasnt so frugal; it wouldnt be a big deal, she's to blame for her own suffering.>

... You need help.


no, i dont, because i dont beleive morality is subjective. but if someone believes morality is subjective, that person blames the victims of terrible things for them being scared by the incident. whether thats rape, or witnessing a loved one being murdered or a number of things. because a rape or the murder of a loved one would be morally subjective, its the person's view of how horrible a thing it is, that makes them suffer, so they are responsible for their own suffering if morality is subjective.

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what about forced handjobs? moral outrage?

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Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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No response to the second quotation, &#9773; Fokker? Was >>Rape is only wrong because society says it is is wrong<< another typo? Which place did you accidentally place the opposite word of your intended one?


LOL @ 420. It's only a moral outrage if the chick is nasty.

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this is simple for a person that is actually human,
1st:
do not do anything that hurts another person, they have the same rights as you to live in the pursuit of they're own happiness, as long as they respect the same.
2nd:
do not take from another person that they have obtained attained from being said good person, if you are going to steal steal from  someone steal from a thief.
3rd:
fight against anyone that denies these rights to all.
4th:
learn to like people, don't just accept them because they agree with you.
5th:
find wisdom in the fact that you are not perfect, and no one else is either, so criticize your self more than you do others and they will respect you.
6th: if a person is with another, don't think to try to take them from them just because you can... know that you love them or don't bother.
7th: remember a hero dies once, but a coward dies every day of they're life.

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I always take what I can.

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44 Reply by Ouro (edited by 420 14-Nov-2008 14:36:07)

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"7th: remember a hero dies once, but a coward dies every day of they're life."

I think Tupac wrote that you poser

you sound kinda like moses handing out some pretty lame commandments there cougar.  "love people" "dont steal things" "respect others"

this sounds like a 3rd grade sensitivity class

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Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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> V.Kemp wrote:

> No response to the second quotation, &#9773; Fokker? Was >>Rape is only wrong because society says it is is wrong<< another typo? Which place did you accidentally place the opposite word of your intended one?<

Hmm... response.... response to explain the quote.... how about:

"Rape is only wrong because society says it is is wrong, and even then only for people. Did you know that pigs don't merely have sex? The male frequently rapes the sow in order to impregnate her, now, is that wrong? Is that immoral? Should I punish my piggie?





*You even suggest that I think rape is acceptable and I'll put LSD in your water supply."


If you keep using Avogadro/Flint/BW tactics you will end up equally respected.

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You just repeated that you don't think it's essentially wrong. That you're too uneducated/unintelligent to have a simple discussion is not my problem.

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Rape is wrong because society said it is wrong because of what it does and these are both morals from the original.

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Another vote for not essentially wrong.

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> &#9773; Fokker wrote:

> > If you keep using Avogadro/Flint/BW tactics you will end up equally respected.


you mean the most respected posters on the forum? tongue you left acouple people out though...

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> Another vote for not essentially wrong.

no one wants to dispute what i say about how everyone, who views morality as subjective, views victims?

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