lol...your hate and stereotypes of people makes me laugh imperial

BW, your hope will play out within 4 years..

just sit and watch... i really, truly believe obama has the personality, the smarts and the ability to become one of the greatest
too bad, he wasn't given an ideal situation, he really would've been the best if he was president the last 8 years...

Your Wright example was a fine one of how Obama is SO DIFFERENT, Gladiator. I explained why I do not see that as ANYthing different. You obviously disagree. Knowing the players and who does what why is clearly irrelevant. I've already pointed out the ignorance of your position. Obviously you didn't bother with a sentence or two of why I was wrong or where. Because I wasn't.

Why not give OTHER EXAMPLES to support your claim? I know we disagree over Wright. Don't you want to give ANY OTHER examples? You claim it's an integral part of why you like Obama, that he's SO different, yet when I disagree with your ONE example you whine and fuss about having answered me (with a poor excuse of an example, which I explained, very specifically) and don't BACK UP YOUR POSITION with other examples. You claim there are enough to attribute Obama with this praise. Yet you offer NO other examples (or none at all, in my view, as I have explained), even in name. Can't even point out a few in a sentence? You obviously stand upon firm ground.

That's why you didn't respond to ANYthing else in my post. And I was VERY specific. Obviously you couldn't disagree with any of my statements. It's hard to defend bullshit on a specific level.

Kids like you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Willful ignorance is so abhorent in this country because it's praised in media like MTV. You've got the ignorance to not know what's going on coupled with the arrogance to think what you say has any value. This considered, it's a shame your vote does. Voter participation is great. But numbers alone are no accomplishment; we need more educated voters participating, not more ignorant kids who read a bumper sticker but openly confess that they do NOT want to know what's going on or who's doing what or why.

Owned.

Good thing no one's bothering to discuss anything. Now I don't have to post any more responses; apparently EVERYTHING I said in my last post was that true.

hehe.....

I like it when they chase their tales....

As a good Conservative, I will give my President Elect all the chance he deserves.
When I think he is wrong, you will know it.
When I think he is correct....I will support him.

In that list of Greatness, Dont forget Ronald Reagan.
Iran hostages, A pathetically demoralized military, a horrible economy, and a country down and out.
Facing a strong and bold USSR.

Ronald Reagan turned all of that around..........and crippled the USSR, with his policy....

> lmperial wrote:

> Hes Black, of course he will commit a Felony, the man's a communist, he will prolly get caught funding domestic terrorism.

Wow...

1: Welcome back, Decimus!
2: Yes... a Presidential candidate funding domestic terrorism...

Even if we agree that Obama will fund domestic terrorism...

Hell, let's go full out.  Let's say that a terrorist attack was foiled and Obama was arrested on the scene of the thwarted attack, being the person actually committing the attack.  They've got DNA evidence, fingerprints on the bomb fragments, and two video camera shots of Obama: one with him driving a bomb-filled ice cream truck into a building and one with him waving to a security camera as he sets a timer.

Who prosecutes him?  Not the courts.  The Senate prosecutes him.  That means that a majority of Democrats in the Senate would have to turn against their president.

Which means you're left with the following problem.  Either:

A: The Dems are, on the whole, leftist communists, and they would sympathize with Obama...
B: The Dems won't throw their candidate under the bus anyway because he's a symbol of the party... spin tactics!
C: The Dems on the whole aren't communists, in which case Obama would be applied with that, and your scenario wouldn't take place...
D: We can't generalize people, so your scenario is invalid...
E: Race is the deciding factor that says Obama will get impeached, in which case... well... I would make a comment, but my comment would probably end up being more racial than yours.  Let's just say that race being the factor that says "Obama will commit a felony" is freaking racist...

BW, i know all these troops are in germany.
but can u answer me why they still are?
do you really believe we need them here to protect us???
Its the US who benefits from it.. not germany.
also.. afaik we pay quiet a bunch of money to support your troops being stationed here.
same goes for japan.

it was planned to reduce them from roughly 60k to 20k.. now mr gates says.. ah we need at least 40k troops in germany... why??? for our security?
or because its easy to reach iraq from there? pitty we gave you overflying rights anyways.

also if you tell me that the US needs a bigger military bufget then the rest of the world together.. fine... i really need to start to wonder if you are still sane.

in times of cold war i could understand simply arming the other side into the ground was quiet effective.
but in these times.. where the biggest army you need to find is people with some rpg and kalaschnikovs.. i dont know.

it for sure is american buisness... just dont whine about nationalized healthcare bringing down your middle class economy when your country is able to spend 600 billion a year on its army. relieve the middle class economy for 300 billion you put in army and dang.. your healthcare would be financed..and with 300 billion you still are 4 or 5 times bigger then nr.2 in the world.

sorry.. i simply do not understand how people can support putting big big big money into military while they go crazy about putting some money into healthcare. its obviously not the poeple you care for. military to me just appears like penis prothesis.

We already spend something like $700 billion for federal healthcare, and that is without full coverage, and it doesn't cover the state and local healthcare systems.  All told health care is about 1/7 our economy or over $1.5 trillion.

Imperial
Good thing to use online for sarcasm is

"  /sarcasm  "

@BW

1. Ronald Reagan: ever heard of the Iran Contra affair ? your sunny president had his dark sides too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
2. medical health care: take it as a long term investment. the invested tax-money will start a whole new market and chances for new innovations and profits. those who pay more taxes will moan, but they will realize that good medical health care helps to stabilize the US-society and economy, which are both shaken. more than 100 years ago german conservatives moaned that the costs of medical health care would ruin them. well, we are still number 3 in world economy.
3. the future of the republican party:
times change and the repulicans will change too. the minorities opted for Obama and the minorities rise fast in numbers. in some time they will have (in combination) the majority in many states. here the republicans must react and integrate these people far better in their political concepts. the tax concepts are wrong too. in times of millions of personal insolvency in the US, it is not a good idea to demand tax cuts for the upper class.
the right to bear arms: old fashioned but useful, keep it on the agenda
gay/same sex marriage: it is conservative, keep it on the agenda (i support the decision to allow it here in germany)
small government: more realism pleace. how many republican presidencies did the US have since T. Roosevelt? did any of them really cut the "big" government? and that in times of economic crisis! = political suicide
"Embrace our military strength, and face off vs. our enemies." talking about small government...
"Continue to build our Military, and support the oppressed." rofl, how idealistic and generous. so the US will invade the Repulic of Congo in 4 years and end the civil war there? remember Somalia and Clinton?
"Remove the UN from the UNITED STATES, and withdraw our seat." BW, u are not a politican. NEVER give up ground in global politics. block everything if you like, but never give up ground!
"Remove ourselves from NATO, and bring back most of our troops, keep a few key Naval and Air bases." same as above. ok, NATO is a paper tiger, but the US controls it. with NATO european nations have problems to build up their own EU-forces. NATO gurantees deep influence in european military politics. e. g. the european space project Galileo (advanced GPS): the US pressed the europeans with NATO emergency plans so that the US can disrupt the signals in times of war.
"Remove our Nuke and Missle shield forces from Europe, and put our missle shield system only in Israel......They will need it." Take it back, but accept if some more states build their own nukes than, just in case we may need them. btw. the shield in east europe is to protect the US from an attack by Iran.
"Tell NoKo and Iran, we wont negotiate with you any more.... and blow up their Nuke facilities." a few days later China attacks Taiwan and South Korea. Iran strikes back with chemical and biological weapons on israel, US-forces in iraq etc.
"Then set up funding and supply bases for any insurection movements that develope.....TOTALLY support an overthrow if possible." far better idea than everything above. but not as offical politics. why warn the enemy?
"Tell China and Russia they better stay the F away from S. America." sure the US may tell them, who cares? china? with control of a great amount of US bonds? Russia? they have plenty of nukes left

"
Shrink the Capital Gains tax to 5% LT, 10% ST.
Institute a flat tax, across the board that tosses out the tax code entirely.
a. allow the basic allowance that ensures a tax free income to the middle class
b. allow the Mortgage Interest and Loan Interest right offs....for ALL debt."
good propaganda, keep it on the agenda. but have an answer how to finance all your ideas above...

"School choice.  Eliminate the Education dept. at the Fed Level.
Institute Tuition right offs or give vouchers for those that send children to Private School." keep it on the agenda

"Build up the most elite and efficient border security force ever assembled."
and CLOSE DOWN the border to illegal traffic." keep it on the agenda, but have in mind that the minorities will become the majority. all your ideas won't work when the president is always a Dem.

"a.  Face Mexican smugglers at the border, and kill them." keep it on the agenda (ever heared of the iron curtain?)

"DRILL for OIL." keep it, but don't forget to innovate a car that runs with it instead of gas
"BUILD Nuke plants." good idea

"Withdraw the loan bailouts to the banks and automakers......." GM is near bankruptcy, such a tradion lost? thats not very conservative...
"Remove Labor Unions from the Political landscape." ever heard of the US-constitution?

Summary:
domestic ideas: ok with a few adjustments in the demographics
foreign ideas: if u want to ruin the repulicans and your nation than act that way.

of course, if all republican voters are small minded idiots, than your program is perfect.

> Firewing wrote:

> "Continue to build our Military, and support the oppressed." rofl, how idealistic and generous. so the US will invade the Repulic of Congo in 4 years and end the civil war there? remember Somalia and Clinton?
"Remove the UN from the UNITED STATES, and withdraw our seat." BW, u are not a politican. NEVER give up ground in global politics. block everything if you like, but never give up ground!

Just wanted to point something out:

X possibly solves Y.  Removing the US from the UN means the US military isn't bound by the UN whenever they initiate peacekeeping operations.  Somalia was a UN intervention, complete with the UN rules of engagement.

you think we'd settle for Deutsche-care?

when a majority can just vote better benefits?

who pays for bigger boobs? and botox injections wear off ya know, and there's pet therapy, and who the hell is the freaking government to deny me holistic alternative medicine,  aromatherapy is a RIGHT

Schiep, yes 600 Billion
To keep you secure.

Germany's Army could not defend itself from an even RUSSIAN Invasion if it were to happen.
Imagine that....but you can Have FRANCE help you ??

Are you happy with that ??
Would you as a German, be happy to know that FRANCE is your ally ??    Do you trust that alliance ??

YOU in German Support US Troops ??  How ??
US pays to use the bases, and Soldiers paid in US Dollars spend them in YOUR Economy.
You need less troops to defend your country.
You dont have to worry about a NAVY to defend your shore w/a US and even BRITISH Naval Presence.
How does Germany not benefit from a US Military Presence ??
Please.   Answer those questions.

ALSO, I WANT my troops out of Europe.  I feel the way the EU has treated the US, F you all.

800 billion is spent to keep you boneheads safe as well.  Again, 9-10 Carrier battle groups are not cheap.
No one has a carrier battle group..... the US has 9, and you all reap the rewards for them.

as to health care, again, no one spends on health care like the US does.....no one.

But, back to the republican Party, needing the Conservative wing to take over.....

Imagine, they are trying to say OBAMA and his crew are CENTRIST.....can you believe the idiocy ?