> windowsME wrote:

>  We just didn't like the way you moved heavily towards our core and hit our attackers spread while you were in this knock out, drag down, war

Moving heavily towards your core, lol! Here's the real deal mate:
We had 2 outposts built with our fam
* One around the center of the gal (which you cleaned a few weeks ago, 9 ticks from your HS)
* One around the center of sector 3 (which you were still cleaning and is pretty far from your core)

Apart from that, we were in our core, and in our allies core. 45 happens to be our ally (which you raided early in the round). So you have your shares there indeed, but it is FAR from your core, as it is obviously our ally's core. We were talking about systems 2 to 3 ticks away from our ally's Home System, and this to the NORTH of their home system (so towards us), not towards the SOUTH (so not towards your fam).

Your reason for attacking us is, as usual for big fams raiding small fams, an excuse to kick our ass. Now we were even at war while your fam is easily raiding our bankers.

I really like you as a player WimME, and I respected your fam. I have been asking for a NAP to a few of your players, but my messages have been repeatadly ignored. Don't go blaming our fam now, please.

omg what an idiot...

next time if u want a nap offer a cookie

First of all, you're an ass for posting this, for trying to humiliate me in front of the entire IC community
Second, you don't see emoticons in this conversation, so the difference between a "joke" and "real" is gone, which changes the content of the conversation.

Third and last, I hope some people will understand my point of view, for as far is this is readable.. IF people even read it.. As I repeatedly said: I was not trying to insult him or trying to blame him. I am only defending myself now cuz I know that is what people will think. Anyway, Cookie and me decided to fight over the so called "area". We saw this as a few retakes and attempts on portals, just having some fun with both families. THEY saw it as declaring war and raiding our banker, as killing our fam. I only wanted to say that it was sad (just a regular, normal conversation between 2 grown up persons), but then he started being an ass, and he took everything wrong

I've been playing since 2001 honey, but thanks for the tip.
Let's not make this a 1vs1. If you wanna talk about this, be resonable and unblock me on MSN
I said "trying" to ruin our round, and "a tactic" to ruin our round. I didnt say you ruined our round, yet. Considering that you will be raiding more bankers than just one.
31 will ruin our round, dont worry about that

Mods, if you have a bit of humanity, please delete all this crap..

//Edit: I havent been trying to ruin your reputation, you are trying to ruin mine by posting this.

Firstly, mods don't need to delete it as it's about the only thing that is actually debating about something going on in Capri in this thread

Secondly, raiding bankers is not ruining rounds considering we have only raided one and it is not our fault you didn't take a NAP and 31 is now attacking you. You might want to call 31 dishonorable for fighting you whilst you are in war with us (52)

Thirdly, neither is raiding A banker a tactic for ruining a round. It was a tactic to get you to NAP easy enough by which you would have got all your planets back in your core and we would have kept a net planet gain in the top of s2 which is more than reasonable after YOU REJECTED our NAP OFFER.

Fourthly, Since 2001, that is great. But when you've been in some of the fams i've been in you will see by comparison i have been extremely good to your fam. We haven't nuked you (your fam/allys nuked FamouslyOdd TWENTY SEVEN times). I have performed ONE sab and some DU's. I have NOT nuked the infra of your top banker like myself AND Soccer could have done by now.

So please, think about that. I would think i was being an ass if we were nuking/oping you 24/7. But we are not.

So please, realise we are not trying to ruin anyones round or make this into an unfair fight. Simply using more than reasonable tactics to gain an advantage after we had a NAP offer rejected that could have avoided this conflict.

Also, you can't take much of a morale high ground as your attackers have tried to raid me. Yes you did it after we raided you but you are now using the same tactics against us. It's not my fault you didnt think of it before.

/apologises for being a good leader

Siri! How long till Cookies ready?

Communication solves alot of problems, also 32 pissing off half the gal doesn't solve anything.

I know we been fighitng 32 for 10+ days now and while we were in a war with 46 and other fams. We never once posted or whined in here when we were in war with another fam and other fams were hitting us.

This gal is small for the amount of fams in it, but has alot of systems, so there are alot of empty p's to explore, so u can expect 10+ fams to be in your fam news in the same ic yr if not more.

Kinda bad to portal 1 tick from our core and our allies core and fight hard to keep them for 8-10 days then wonder why we hit u? We didn't have 2 attackers log on and another something happened, so 2 attackers out of 5 hit ya:(

Be smarter with your outposts next time, dont put them 1 tick from a top 3 alliance

Also Blackout we're not here to ruin your round, just msg our leader and fleet admireral and things can be worked out im sure.

Our small guy was in your core for 2-3 days gearing up while we kept u away with other attackers, No idea where this other fam came from, but mayeb u made alot of enemies?

> PP_ wrote:

> Communication solves alot of problems, also 32 pissing off half the gal doesn't solve anything.

I know we been fighitng 32 for 10+ days now and while we were in a war with 46 and other fams. We never once posted or whined in here when we were in war with another fam and other fams were hitting us.

This gal is small for the amount of fams in it, but has alot of systems, so there are alot of empty p's to explore, so u cant expect 10+ fams to be in your fam news in the same ic yr if not more.

Kinda bad to portal 1 tick from our core and our allies core and fight hard to keep them for 8-10 days then wonder why we hit u? We didn't have 2 attackers log on and another something happened, so 2 attackers out of 5 hit ya:(

Be smarter with your outposts next time, dont put them 1 tick from a top 3 alliance

Exactly. You don't moan and you get on with it. I don't think i've been dishonorable considering the NAP terms i offered before our war.

At least PP_ knows the score.

Siri! How long till Cookies ready?

pointless indeed, he has the idea that doing a banker raid is a bad thing, u wont be able to change his mind, however stupid it seems:P

and cookie tell him about our war times:D

just a heads up, i am gonna nuke some people before going away ^^

actually you all are talking nothing reasonable. just 1452 AND 1431 saw a nice meal and free planets, if they were in our situation they would have also have another view. and all the talking arround is bs. but its the goal of the game and nobody can complain. feel free to continue and kill us off (1), or feel free to give us a NAP for free (2) after our leader again deleted

i personally would like the 2nd thing

Week 36, 8
you delete, and we get 50 planets for a nap

Signed, FU of Robin Hood (1431)

is this what u call a nap zzz