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Still no facts, and your fat Grandparents do not count as fact.

Your a waste of time, and effort, all your crap is what YOUR opinion which you are allowed to have, but your prolly one of those people who claim the U.S. Is imperialistic with out proof, it's funny how you can throw words around upon perception.

I know politics enough, i've met allot of them during my tour in Iraq, including Dick Cheney, Colin P. I've had conversations with enough people to formulate my own opinion, and my opinion is - The Nazi's Used Socialism to seize control during an unstable period of time in Germany, after which that ceased using it due to their hatred of the Communist - I formulate that opinion based off of facts, and history, and my feelings of how it turned out, you don't have to agree with it, and i don't care if you do.

Any more replies to this topic I'll just ignore, your wasting my time, and not changing my opinion, and seeing how you love to throw these insults around..

You just make yourself look like a sad immature kid who keeps missing the point, the Nazi argument is ultimately irrelevant to the topic, and you are just an Emo looking for a session of Cyber encourage sought after and achieved with fact less E-Thugging.

You sir, are amusing.

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Oh dear god. And here was I thinking the politics forum couldn't cram any more idiots into such a small forum.
And then they throw in the idiot that thinks nazis were socialists.

First of all, the only reason it's called the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei), is for propaganda. Claiming your party is good for the common man is excellent, especially in times of depression. But infact, the only ones that benefited at all from the nazis were the rich capitalists (factory owners etc).
Now, there was also a communist party back then. You know what the nazis did to them? Abolished them. How socialistic and friendly of them, is it not?
The nazis also didn't like the Soviets very much. Guess why. Yes, indeed, they were communists, the arch rivals of the nazis! Which was part of why they invaded the SU (other part was resources).

Now please, go pick up a history book, go eat some brains in the hope it'll make you smarter, and gather intelligence. Pretty please, for the sake of humanity.

"When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope." - Joseph Stalin
Lemming of Disappearance and

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What is so hard to understand that any concept of socialism can be view through many different lights.

Christ your about as smart a retarded child eating paint.

It's MY OPINION you stupid Fk, not fact - That the Nazi USED socialism, I didn't say they were SOCIALIST You stupid crack baby.

AND the Effing start of all this was the fact that there are SKINHEADS WHO ARE APART OF THE SOCIALIST MOVEMENT.

Now stop pretending to be smart, you stupid kids are looking for a fight where one doesn't exist, yet another example of morons who require some sort of Cyber appreciation through failed attempts to E-Thug it.

You keep repeating yourself, about get a history book, and i say this get a FKin English book and reread my posts and comprehend them for what they are, and not what you want in order to get your Epeen hard from trolling.

And still no facts.

So sad..

No wonder your Obama supports, Morons in the fullest.

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"This, by the way, happened before. I am referring here to occasional alliances or coalitions between yesterday's Nazis and yesterday's Communists. It was in Germany's shaky post First World War democracy, the so-called "Weimar Republic," that Communists and Nazis organized a strike in Berlin 1932, and were marching together in demonstrations against the ever weaker forces of moderation and calm that still existed in the final years of the Weimar Republic.

Both Nazis and Communists opposed moderate Social-Democrats

I emphasize this important fact again, it was during the existence of the Weimar Republic, in the decade preceding Hitler's Third Reich (1923-1933), that both Communists and Nazis discovered that they shared their revulsion of the existing democratic order and the moderate Social-Democrats. It was in 1981 that Hermann Weber, a well known German historian and political scientist, published a very important study on the strategy and tactics of the German Communist Party (Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands or KPD) between 1929 and 1933. During this critical period most German Communists described the Social-Democrats as "Social-Fascists," they were perceived as the greater enemy (Hauptfeind), an enemy worse than the Nazis, that is. This was also the line followed by the Soviet controlled Communist International (Comintern) which instructed the German Communist Party on July 20, 1931, to form an alliance with the Nazis with a view to bringing about the downfall of Prussia's moderate Social-Democratic, Centrist and Liberal-Democratic coalition government. Prussia's Social-Democratic Prime Minister Otto Braun (1872-1955) was a courageous man who was well aware of the mortal danger the extremists - Nazis and Communists - posed to democracy and freedom - not only in Prussia but in Germany as a whole.

It was in the spring of 1931 that the so-called "national opposition" consisting of Hitler's National Socialist Party (NSDAP) and German conservative nationals (DNVP, DVP, and a group referred to as Stahlhelm) proposed to held a plebiscite (Volksentscheid) on the dissolution of the Prussian Parliament to bring about the fall of the government. Initially, the DKP rejected the proposal describing it as "Fascist betrayal of the people." Soviet Communist Party leader Joseph Stalin did not agree with this DKP line. Using the channels of the Comintern, Stalin instructed the German party to adopt a different line. Consequently, the German Communist Party leadership announced on July 22, 1931, that they would join what was now suddenly termed a "Red Referendum."4

In order to achieve a majority vote the Nazis could not do without Communist participation in the referendum. A unique Red-Brown alliance had been formed: both Nazis and Communists marched together in demonstrations against the Social-Democratic government of Prussia. "


Source : http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3438

Now shut the FK up and talk about the real issue -

Obama is a dirty Communist(Wolf), in Democratic (Sheep) Skin.

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Hitler imitated a lot of Commie tactics but both sides saw clear and vital differences.

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Exactly, all i did was make an OVER STATEMENT trying to be sassy saying

"Obama as more radical ties then a socialist skinhead"

And BAM! In turns into this crap... oh boy...  ^ Thats the topic at hand, discuss it not whether or not the Communist and Nazis were socialist parties in Germany, because thats irrelevant as hell.

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"Initially, the DKP rejected the proposal describing it as "Fascist betrayal of the people." Soviet Communist Party leader Joseph Stalin did not agree with this DKP line"

Tobi

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Errr... I wanted to post about McCain on SNL but this thread seems to have skipped on another topic, and the Elections 08 is closed.

Yell, perhaps you should create a thread "How Obama will turn the US into the IV Reich with the help of the LA Times, possibly to the extent of ultra-socialist rogue countries like, say, Sweden"?

Anyway. Did you guys see McCain with Fey on SNL? I thought it was a brilliant counterattack to Obama's 30 minutes ad. The more we see McCain out of his own campaign, the more it seems to me he would be really closer to victory if he stayed the "same" McCain instead of leaning right. The republican base would have voted for him (or rather against Obama), and he definitely can appeal to independents and democrats. Well my 2 cents.

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yeah yell..let's have a thread for the election alone.. and all the stories leading up to it
and that thread can include discussing the states as they go for obama or mccain .pppweeeeaaazzeeeeee


and golk, snl doesn't help anyone tongue

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> Golk wrote:

> Errr... I wanted to post about McCain on SNL but this thread seems to have skipped on another topic, and the Elections 08 is closed.

Yell, perhaps you should create a thread "How Obama will turn the US into the IV Reich with the help of the LA Times, possibly to the extent of ultra-socialist rogue countries like, say, Sweden"?

Anyway. Did you guys see McCain with Fey on SNL? I thought it was a brilliant counterattack to Obama's 30 minutes ad. The more we see McCain out of his own campaign, the more it seems to me he would be really closer to victory if he stayed the "same" McCain instead of leaning right. The republican base would have voted for him (or rather against Obama), and he definitely can appeal to independents and democrats. Well my 2 cents.



Hahah classic

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No, you can just keep posting here. The Euromods object multiple threads on our elections with a lot of player support.

McCain trampled the 1st amendment, tried to run amnesty through under the radar, and broke our 20year effort to ensure competent judges, bitches about tax cuts, demands we regulate methane and carbon dioxide. There's no way the base would come running for that. Palin propped him up this far.

The center-right reminds me of Sean Bond in "Ronin".  DeNiro asks Bond why he will leave them behind with the car, take the cash, walk into an unlit tunnel full of arms dealers and take delivery there?  Bond answers for the ages "Look let's just do it and have it done right?  Let's just do it and worry about all that when its over. "  Its their basic answer why we should settle for their crap.  The bailout, mccains nomination, ahnuld's second term, "just vote yes, ok? God! Just vote and leave us alone!!!"

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> The Euromods object multiple threads on our elections with a lot of player support.

Well that's wrong. Politics is a different place and it should be up to the people making it a live thread for years now + their most active mod (you) to decide. Actually no, it should be for you to decide and for us to cry to other mods if it goes really "against the people".

But anyway.

Obama's grandmother dies the day before the election. That's just...weird. Not saying this emotion-wise, I'm not the sentimental type, but, like... timewise? Weird.

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Obama is probably eating her, I heard muslims are cannibals

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yeah i have to say, i was really sad,
and it ABSOLUTELY SUCKS, SUCKS
knowing that the person who raised you, died one day before you possibly became president
and it SUCKS for his grandmother, not being able to push another day or two to see his grandson be quite likely the first african-american president of the U.S.A

really sad, but my thoughts and prayers go out to them, and i gotta say this must be the most wierdest and awkwardest time for obama
he can't really celebrate to the fullest if he wins, he might not be able to make it to the funeral and what not..tough time for him, and tough decisions he has to make..

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http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Kg-K7em20&eurl=http://www.halolz.com/

WoW votes

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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At least she got to hear Barack tell the world she had an unreasoning fear of black men, before she went

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Yell, would it be a good move for you to open "The one and ONLY election night thread" before this place gets spammed by moved General threads and err... us?

Or are we using this threads and the ones around before the "Aftermath" thread?

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Im not computer savvy but from the "SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE PERSON BELOW THREAD" which takes 40 pages without melting people's HD, I think this thread will do just fine big_smile

you just have the bad habit of opening a new thread on the US election every 3 days

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BLACKWING posted elsewhere

I want to put in my short two cents.
This election has both Dems not really happy with their choice, and Repubs not happy with their choice.
Neither of these candidates are strong choices.

1.  Obama ran a strong organized campaign.
2.  McCain was all over the place, never really finding a strong position to run on.


My fellow Americans will vote in my President for the next four years.  Either one, I will not be happy with....but, I think Obama w/a heavy Dem majority is dangerous. 

Will Obama turn out to be the radical we conservatives fear ??  Or will he be able to fight a decidedly leftist/special interest driven congressional Majority ??

We know McCain will bring balance...and far as balance can be brought.


A Mandate by the people today, will set the tone for the next four years.  A Dem super Majority  I believe is dangerous, with the profile of this congress.
But, that is my personal feeling.


Here is the polling data:

Polls:  11-3-2008
Gallop:          55

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ARMS posted elsewhere

McCain wins MO
Obama wins FLA, OH, VA, NC and PN and AZ

oh and dems win 9 more senat seats aswell

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KOLLOP posted elsewhere

Looks like the world will stop hating u, gj continue voting Obama!!

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OMFGGGG

BW
"This election has both Dems not really happy with their choice,"

ARE YOU FING KIDDING ME??? OBAMA might be the greatest presidential candidate in the 21st century tongue
he had changed the political game, how can you say democrats, other than me even, aren't happy with him?
he's created a movement

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> Gladiator wrote:

> OMFGGGG

BW
"This election has both Dems not really happy with their choice,"

ARE YOU FING KIDDING ME??? OBAMA might be the greatest presidential candidate in the 21st century tongue
he had changed the political game, how can you say democrats, other than me even, aren't happy with him?
he's created a movement


What exactly has he done thats so promising..? Aside from parting the red sea of course.

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imperial, i'm simply responding to BW on his claim that dems aren't happy with obama
when it's EXCTLY the opposite of that, if democrats were unhappy with him, he wouldn't have raised 600 million dollars, actually more... shattering all records
if dems didn't like obama, he wouldn't get 100's of thousands of people coming out in the cold, rain, sun and wind to listen to obama
if dems didn't like obama, he wouldn't have brought in so many new voters
if dems didn't like obama, he wouldn't have gotten millions of new voters and young voters registered

no one dislikes obama on the dems side, actually maybe a couple 100 hardcore clinton supporters might not like obama, they feel like they got cheated out of the spot(LOL tongue) which couldn't be more false
other than that atleast 99.9% of dems, love obama tongue

250 (edited by Gladiator 04-Nov-2008 22:59:53)

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have i mentioned yet..

yell's a party pooper big_smile

and yell, you are turning into the euro mods of whom you talk about so much negatively
and since Europeans are socialist
i can only assume you are now a socialist too

from which i'm forced to conclude that you must vote obama

so i guess not everything is bad.. after all

but you're still a party pooper tongue