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Well Mishe it was your own family that screwed you.
Also 76/90 werent planning a 2 vs 1 gang banging. They were planning a 2 vs 2 war. Your allies dogged your asses. This then means that 76/90 isnt dishonourable in anyway, and did not justify an NAP break. So if thats your justification then why didnt you ally break on your allies? they were the ones who left you out to slaughter. That would then have been justified.
Good that this issue is now solved.
This is our aggrement with 93. up to aggrement war ll be 2 vs 2 . but 93 decided to drop 83 and ally 71. we didnt accept to make nap with 71 and try clear them from close systems and cancel on 93. even that 71 try to help 93. 71's 2 attacker took 20-30 planet(Liver's planet) after cancellation. but after nap break as Noir said 71 doesnt want to help nap breakers (totally understandable, killa and vindi's fam did same last round and they didnt help nap breakers) and leave 93 alone. 93 became alone because of their 2 mistakes(drop 83 and nap break) but still blaming others except them. at least some player accept their mistake and apology us.
Aggrement
48hours cancellation nap between the alliance #590 and #576 and the alliance #593 and #583.
If you wish to cancel the nap your cancellation must be sent ingame to the leader and two vice leaders of BOTH other families.
This alliance nap can only be cancelled alliance to alliance ( 590 & 576 being one, 593 & 583 being the other). IF one of the familly's in either alliance cancels on any of the other alliance fam members, the entire nap will be declared VOID after 48 ticks.
As soon as you sent the cancel msg there will start a period of 48hours in which the nap is still in effect.
As long as the nap is in effect no offensive actions towards the other party in the agreement is allowed. This contains attacks as well as all offensive operations/spells.
If you do you must pay the other family compensation unless the other family refuses to accept it. The compensation is:
For a succesfull attack: You must return that planet and freely give another planet as compensation as well.
For an unsuccesfull attack: You must freely give a planet as compensation
For both successful and unsuccessful ops/spells you must pay a planet compensation.
If any family refuses to pay compensation the other party is allowed to declare the nap void. But only if the LEADER has refused to do so. It is his responsibility to make sure they are payed.
This is a nap with core clause which means that no family is allowed in the cores of the other family. If there is such a planet it must be given up to the other family. The core list of each fam is posted beneath.
Core list:
593/583 alliance:
54,74:99 - 63,65:99 - 51,61:99 - 51,62:99 - 54,60:99 - 53,62:99 - 54,64:99 - 57,62:99 - 54,69:99 - 55,66:99 - 57,67:99 - 57,68:99 - 58,68:99 - 59,64:99 - 58,59:99 - 59,60:99 - 62,63:99 - 61,65:99 - 56,56:99 - 57,56:99 -
27,38:99 - 28,42:99 - 28,44:99 - 28,47:99 - 29,49:99 - 30,41:99 - 30,43:99 - 30,46:99 - 31,38:99 - 31,40:99 - 31,44:99 - 31,46:99 - 32,42:99 - 34,40:99 - 34,42:99 - 34,43:99 - 34,45:99 - 34,46:99 - 36,41:99 -
Alliance 576/590
41,47:99 - 38,46:99 - 37,44:99 - 38,43:99 - 39,44:99 - 37,49:99 - 36,50:99 - 45,49:99 - 41,42:99 - 42,42:99 - 43,43:99 - 45,45:99 - 45,47:99 - 46,44:99 - 47,43:99 - 46,47:99 - 40,51:99 - 41,52:99 -
18 planets
44,55:99 - 45,55:99 - 46,57:99 - 43,58:99 - 45,60:99 - 46,61:99 - 50,57:99 - 51,56:99 - 48,51:99 - 48,48:99 - 49,47:99 - 52,52:99 - 51,53:99 - 52,54:99 - 42,61:99 - 43,63:99 - 44,64:99 -
17 planets
Signed Triangler Head of diplomacy fam 593.
Signed John Abruzzi, Leader of fam 590.
Signed Brains (Assys), Leader of fam 576.
Signed cloud strife, Leader of fam 583
"Signed Triangler Head of diplomacy fam 593."
Triangler was never head of Diplomacy. So the NAP is void at that point, anyway.
"If you wish to cancel the nap your cancellation must be sent ingame to the leader and two vice leaders of BOTH other families."
Did you send a nap cancellation message to 83? Their leader and two vice leaders? If you didn't, the NAP was void. You are in the wrong! 
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So anyway, why keep going on about this? Just let it be.
76/90 saw a 2v1 opportunity with 93 that would guarantee them the rounds win AND the top alliance. This is dishonorable by the CoH, but honestly -- who really cares?
This is a war game. If your telling me that in no war has an agreement ever been broken, or that in no war has there ever been a 2v1, your not only joking me: Your joking yourself.
Oh, and 76/90 did fight a good war. Congrats.
We all knew that it was only going to end up one way though. The NAP break was an *attempt* to stop the carnage. In hindsight it was a dumb idea, since it gave 71 an excuse not to participate and it gave 87 an excuse to vulture.
Well, live and learn i guess 
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lets be honest
no other then 93 really know how they went and who the leaders of nap breaking is
anyone else has only clues and stories, only 93 knows was really going on, but how much are they telling the truth, is another question
so stop theoretical bullshit, we just dont know the pure story
are we responsible for your allies?
what if you have no ally the entire round, that would make every ally attacking you be dishonorable -.-
what do you want us to do, postponing the war and waiting for your ally to get enough shares?
You can keep telling yourself that it was a 2v1 all you want but the truth remains it was 1v1 - one alliance against another alliance.
In the beginning of the war 71 helped you a lot more than 90 helped us (mostly with market aid, and also a few attacks). It enabled you to build more units throughout the war than we built. Later on 90 stepped up with the fighting and 71 pulled out because of your actions.
The fact that your alliance sucks and cannot coordinate as well as ours, does not make it a 2v1. The fact that your allies prefer to play infra instead of fighting does not make it a 2v1 - it is entirely their choice how they want to play the game. Any weakness in your alliance does not make it a 2v1, you should have taken such weaknesses into consideration when forming your alliances. Nobody else is to blame for it; especially not 76/90.
Anyways petty people will always try and justify their wrongdoings and come up with excuses as to put them in the 'right' and make them feel better about themselves. It takes a grown and mature person to admit to their mistakes and accept when they have been outclassed.
And if you are so worried about your 'IC - reputations' then my advise to you would be to shut up and let the issue die, because the more you talk about it the more people know how much you suck.
"Also 71 has a very weak attacking crew and didn't have spread to even aid us with our war. I wasn't suprised either by the way they allowed themselves to be raided. They did what I saw as saving there own asses yes and they did what was need. Nor should they feel they did the right, nor wrong thing. Losing your ally, doesn't really make any fam impressed to want to ally you. What will happen when you get in a 2vs2? Run tail after one of your bankers get raided?"
RV - You know better than this.
After cancellation was a fact we prepared better than you did for this war. The market aid we sent you, was merely stuff we didnt need at the moment. We had 3 attackers preparing to enter your cores and portal up, and would have had the time to do it, given a little help frmo you guys. Personally I even asked TUF and Death for a list of planets we could take and portal.
List was never brought, and later you guys broke nap, so there was never much we could do. 76 did their YAMA's well and when we explored far from our spread to get into your areas we usually got cleared before first lasers even got built. I've mostly kept my mouth shut in this, but I expect more from you...you're better than most of them.
You brought 2v1 on yourselves, it didnt have to be like that. Now accept your loss as your own and no-one elses. This war has shown nothing of what attacking strength my family has, be it weak or strong, no-one knows. Yet.
lol Masse. i havnt said nothing about this war either, but damon is right 571 tried too get close too us (90 and 76)i had worked hard too keep them away from us for a few weeks before war along with pancreas and haywire. and masses cleared all newly explored planets anywhere near us as me pancreas and haywire cleared 571 from our north border. (which was fun Tymo)
593 brough everything on themselfs and are paying the price totally now
What happened to 583? Weren't they one of the top 5 fams for a while? lol
Guess i should check the ranks a little more often :-/
Massdeletion because 86 pawned them
Nice way to just give up :-/
Whatever happened to sticking with the fam to get better? The rounds get shuffled usually every 3 rounds. You've got 3 rounds to gel with your family. Maybe one round doesn't go well, it will better prepare you for the next round.
A little loyalty to your family would improve IC dramatically.
83 was attacking 93 before this war ever started so quit trying to say we had 83 not wanting to help us. But great job everyone and enjoy what round is left.
Don't try and justify how 71 was getting cleared. They tried and failed, Failure is just like horse-u's and hand gernades. What a max of a few ticks of 71's income and that is called helping? Come on make me laugh guys sitting for 3 days before deciding to even do anything wasn't really a big help. I tried earlier before this conflict to get your attackers into shares. But guess what 76/90 did one hell of a job keeping 71 out before this conflict started. I guess it alright trying to make a point, but trying is not winning.
Gondor your so clever as allways
83 was not attacking you guys; you started farming them when they had their deletions.
just a side note if ppl at war expect not to be voltured on same goes for them i wait 4 days and dont attack a share with 590 bcouse of war then i wake to see i lost the system give ppl a fair warning about when its ok to start clearing.... you cant eat the cake and keep it whole.... or ill take it back ppl in ic now days do get to do it...
> Masse wrote:
> just shut it skoe. get out of vmode, get raped, wait for next round and hope people still trust you.
burn.
OK this is making me mad to hear this from our allies... You guys havent given me one planet even though i asked multiple times which is not my misstake then..
Also great job for 76/90 cause I've been in some fighting with them before war was even a topic and they did good I tried to get shares but just couldnt cause both their fams were paying good attention...
Also when the war started TYMO and me had done some kind of raiding on 1 of I believe it was 76 bankers... We did that and werent comming close to stop untill you guys broke the NAP... Dont make it look like we are to blame that we couldnt help you cause you guys were part of it yourselves....
Also why is every or almost every player of 93 making excuses for loosing grow up take the loss and move on dont try to blame others for your actions,...
of thats cos your family started attacking us so we cleare all the attackers
if they were grown up they woudn't have broken the nap just because they thought they were going to lose anywqays. they coulda just took a 200-300 planet loss but instead they chose to break nap whereby anyone can feel free to take as many planets as they want off em cuz they are napbreakers afterall
Rioting virus.....
how is failure like horse shoes and hand grenades? that saying is "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades" im kinda interested in what uw ere going for with that one...:P
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