Topic: I don't like the new maps...

Not sure if this has been talked about before or not...but its the first time I'm experiencing the new maps...

...and I don't realy like them.

They look soooo boring with the each family's Home System so evenly spread out.

Also I thought before, there was a lot of discussion about the naturally evolved style of gameplay using 'cores'.  And that people generally don't like them (though they're a necessity - you don't choose to have them or not - they just naturally exist).

Regardless, what I see here is, that these maps facilitate people having large cores and just accepting what they have.  What I mean is, a naturally defined core boundry exists.  It's just the halfway point between your home system, and the family next to you in each direction.  Naturally you just assume that thats your safety zone (the zone will be bigger/smaller depening on the strenght of the family), and anyone who's explored from a different area in it, needs to be removed ASAP.

I don't see any variabilty. 

Also, exploring for 'spread' becomes something attackers will do less and less.  Why? Because each place you explore out of the zone near you, is automatically in someones 'core'.  I'm not saying it's impossible, ofcourse not, good attackers will always find a way and always set up their outposts - it's what we do.  But for the large mass of ic players, I don't think its achievable easily.

I'm also not saying that the old maps were perfect nor fair to everyone.  But when you find out that you're half a tick next to someones home system, then it adds a new dimension to the game.  People have allied on that basis, or come to terms ie "you explore left, we'll explore right". 

It just added a mix to the game and introduced nice strategies.  Even for example when you'd identify there was a HUGE space in sector 4 or something, with heaps and heaps of clusters of systems, everyone knew that thats a prime place to set up a secondary outpost.  And naturally throughout the round, it ends up being a huge battleground from all different fams of who can gain what territory.  Everybody would identify it as a key location and would all target it.

It was definitely more fun.  Ofcourse i say "more fun" even though I havn't seen the whole round yet in Capri, but I'm assuming it will be just as I describe.

Maybe some kind of algorithm to stop 10 families being all within 4 ticks of each other - cos that I think is really stupid and definitely limits gameplay.  But overall, I like the old maps better.  More dynamic and encourages different playstyles.

What do you guys think?

2 (edited by Raif 23-Oct-2008 04:22:21)

Re: I don't like the new maps...

i think this rounds map (in cap) is a lot better than last round. its so much more compact and should make for some more wars imo

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Well Torqez, I agree with you and disagree with you a bit. Though I have no idea whatsoever of what we can do to eliminate cores =/

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whether the cores limit game play really depends on the strategies of the families involved. if someone naps every1 around them then of course they will not have any fighting. if naps are limited, the closeness of families actually encourages fighting.

not saying i disagree with you, i liked the old maps better as well wink there was a different strategy every round

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Yea, I don't want to talk about cores in this thread.  Plus like I said you cant get rid of them.  Cores whether defined or not, are naturally just a label for the 'safe systems' that u control..or the area.

Regardless, what do you think of the fams being so evenly spaced out?  It's not very imaginative =/

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I want the families bunched in as small a ring as possible in the center, with systems all around - then you can fight like men for cores wink

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I actually looked at this map some days ago and thought, hey these fams are spread out nicely. Well done by the map makers smile.

The thing is if the home systems are spread out more there will most likely not be any super fast naps. And more skirmishes and wars.

I like this map in capri atm smile

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No superfast naps hey tongue And saying we had it all worked out big_smile

9 (edited by V.Kemp 29-Oct-2008 14:13:03)

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I completely agree with Torqez. It's one of the only things I disliked about changes I experienced in coming back to IC.

Even down to just the distances between systems effecting how quickly you could be attacked from different directions. You have to deal with a family who has to wait 10 ticks for fleets to arrive to establish a foothold to work from a LOT differently than a family who can hit you in a few systems in 1 tick. Then more systems in 2. 3. etc.

Now you judge everyone's size and their ally's size and measure how far they both are from you. It's as simple and predictable as it could be. I liked the variety offered by most system formations. And, of course, you could always keep what formation a galaxy was in mind when choosing which to play in. smile

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10 (edited by Trick or Treat 29-Oct-2008 14:40:01)

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right, thats because u or ur ally whatsoever - 41 - have like 50 free systems kagar.

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Gank him out of spite!

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I think joor should just stfu

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joor jealous he lost last round and will lose this round too smile

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Sigh..

Learn to add to the discussion.

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exactly

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i like the map, but i wished for a longer round and bigger map, same amount of fams...but the majority of ic players wanted to cut down map size and i totally respect that, but however, the way i see the map, it's as better as last round

i like bigger maps because it allow attackers to spread farther to try fight other attackers and allow small fams a chance to grow after being farmed or raped by bigger fam and got nap so i like it that way

However, i am still happy with the way map set up.

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I liked it when different galaxies had different set-ups and subsequent play-styles. Everyone can play thier preference if they're given just a few options, little differences in the gals that aren't there anymore.

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