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> 420 wrote:

> what goods can they not supply as well? junk.  if you really think about it its just crap that walmart is providing you with.  so in that case, yes, small business probably cannot keep me as awash in useless, cheap, chintzy crap as walmart.....oh well.  small business can provide me with food, some luxury goods, etc.  the problem is always that people want a bunch of stuff. stuff stuff stuff, thats the name of the game.  so if you're arguing for those people i'm afraid i can never win.  i'll say, "hey, why dont you get rid of 6 of your 7 sit-n-spins" and they'll say "hell no, theres a new model coming out and i want to have them all"

what can you say to that?

not just crap. milk. yes, small businesses can supply milk, but not at walmart's prices. and the vast, vast, vast, majority would say the price a business is able to provide something is a huge factor in how well they provide it.

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i agree that there are good people, i know many.  i always love when people say "well thats why we're not animals."  we seem to be the only suicidal species, the only one that actively destroys the thing that gives us life, no other creature does that.  we dont work in a darwinian sense, we're retarded.  animals plants and insects have had no negative impact on the earth, they just fit in to their niche.  name one good thing humans have done for the earth.

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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yeah walmart is a grocery store too, but so what?  the difference between walmarts milk prices and those of my local corner store is 50 cents.  you cant see giving 50 cents to your neighbor?  you'd rather give that to walmart?  i know thats an amazing sum of money so maybe im being pretentious in assuming everyone can get 50 cents together.

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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> 420 wrote:

> i agree that there are good people, i know many.  i always love when people say "well thats why we're not animals."  we seem to be the only suicidal species, the only one that actively destroys the thing that gives us life, no other creature does that.  we dont work in a darwinian sense, we're retarded.  animals plants and insects have had no negative impact on the earth, they just fit in to their niche.  name one good thing humans have done for the earth.

first you have to define what the earth's purpose is before you can say whats harming and helping it. 

and i agree it is fun when people say why we're not animals. but when you think about it, we may have alot of things that no other species has, but alot of species have things that seperate them from all other species. but what makes us no longer animals is not some evolutionary step, but its what our ancestor's passed down to us. language, agriculture, morals, technology, ect.

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> 420 wrote:

> yeah walmart is a grocery store too, but so what?  the difference between walmarts milk prices and those of my local corner store is 50 cents.  you cant see giving 50 cents to your neighbor?  you'd rather give that to walmart?  i know thats an amazing sum of money so maybe im being pretentious in assuming everyone can get 50 cents together.

im not sating people cant afford it, but that 50 cents means walmart is doing a better job at supplying melk then a small grocery store could. if small businesses could do the job just as well as large businesses, there wouldnt be any large businesses. if you want me to be a real dick and quash any help of you arguing otherwise, look at communication companies. the massive infrastructure they have, a small company could never accomplish.

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the earth's purpose? cmon avo.  the earth's purpose is to be, to give life to things, to perpetuate that life.  i think it's hard to say "the earth" as well, the earth is a collection of all the things on it, the planet, animal, insect life, all of it. the earth just happened and then life just happened on it, and no creature that happened on it did anything to deliberately destroy it, except us.

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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of course they can SUPPLY the milk better, they're massive and cutthroat.  eliminate all my competition and i'd be able to anything better.  as for communication, point taken.  certain things have to be done on a grand scale, but that doesnt mean everything has to.

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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and people dont care how its supplied, they just want it cheaper. if walmart stopped selling milk tomorrow people would just get it elsewhere and your locality would suddenly have a little bit more coming into it.  i know you're touting the wonders of the conglomerates but do you care about the area you live in, the area your from, or do you care about walmart and its amazing powers of purchasing and distributing at a rate that kicks mom and pop's asses to the curb?

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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"the earth's purpose? cmon avo.  the earth's purpose is to be, to give life to things, to perpetuate that life.  i think it's hard to say "the earth" as well, the earth is a collection of all the things on it, the planet, animal, insect life, all of it. the earth just happened and then life just happened on it, and no creature that happened on it did anything to deliberately destroy it, except us."

come on, you didnt catch that i was making fun of you saying the "earth's purpose"? the only thing you can really argue has a purpose is humans, and even then you would have a hard time convincing some people of that. they would tell you any purpose is fictional and is just made up to give their life meaning.

so more importantly; what are human's purpose?

"and people dont care how its supplied, they just want it cheaper. if walmart stopped selling milk tomorrow people would just get it elsewhere and your locality would suddenly have a little bit more coming into it.  i know you're touting the wonders of the conglomerates but do you care about the area you live in, the area your from, or do you care about walmart and its amazing powers of purchasing and distributing at a rate that kicks mom and pop's asses to the curb?"

well, if my entire area gets their milk for cheaper, that makes it easier for everyone in my entire area. a cheese company paying less for milk means cheaper cheese; cheaper cheese means cheaper sandwiches, cheaper milk also means cheaper yogurt, icecream, ect. cheaper milk in your entire area means a reduction in costs for your entire area which means more economic success in your entire region against other regions' companies.

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[ontopic]

Where you should be concentrating your buying power if you want to benifit your community is in the place that pays the higher wages and yet has the lowest prices.... where the people in your community have the most profit out of it... [/ontopic]

[offtopic]

Also IN MIRABLE DICTU WTF I DIDN'T SAY THAT i knew he was, but my god saying it wasn't his fault at all, even after his adversary put out the token of peace... WHAT'S HAPPENING TO ME ARGHH I WANNA CHANT CHALDEAN PRAYERS(and yes i think he is one...)

Avo: I think you were echoing my point about BW... how do we know he is any of these things? How do we know any of us are any of the things we say we are?

There was another off-topic point i was going to make, but I can't remmeber... i am sure it was ZOMG ZOMG IM CHANNELLING AN FMOD SHOOT ME THERES TOO MANY OF US IN HERE

done...

[/offtopic]

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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you fool, do you really have enough better stuff to do that you couldnt put alittle more effort in your posts? i mean, calling BE gay and has sex with children..... i expected better from you. you didnt even make a comment about his kids; what diseases he has picked up from the women he had his kids with that he later passed on to his kids, or a comment about people that have served in the millitary during dessert storm. 

"Avo: I think you were echoing my point about BW... how do we know he is any of these things? How do we know any of us are any of the things we say we are?"

i have a theory that everyone on the internet (other then myself) is 14. (couldnt be much younger because of the massive porn usage)

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Thats probably a very accurate theory... everyone but me is 14... or at least that how people act..

Alos appoligies about the lack of decent insulting of BW... IA SHUB NIGGURATH THE BLACK GOAT WITH A THOUSAND YOUNG...


Also I am lazy

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

163 (edited by 420 21-Oct-2008 14:42:19)

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"well, if my entire area gets their milk for cheaper, that makes it easier for everyone in my entire area. a cheese company paying less for milk means cheaper cheese; cheaper cheese means cheaper sandwiches, cheaper milk also means cheaper yogurt, icecream, ect. cheaper milk in your entire area means a reduction in costs for your entire area which means more economic success in your entire region against other regions' companies."

in theory this makes sense, you're totally right, but now lets have a look at the areas where walmart moves in.  now theory starts to look a little bit hazy.  i can almost guarantee that if you go to an area where walmart has moved in, housing prices have dropped (before the bubble burst on that this was true), families are worse off, whatever mom and pop stores they had are gone...and it smells worse (sorry had to put that there).  your theoretical economics makes sense, its all econ 101 that we're doing here, the problem comes in execution.  if it was as simple as you say then hell yes! go walmart! but the fact is they suck life from an are, they dont breathe new.  a walmart tried to move in near my town and the two towns that would be affected by it fought them off and refused to let them in.  now both towns have undergone a renaissance of sorts.  their downtowns are fourishing, more people are moving in, houses are being redone, and the lot that walmart was supposed to be on remains empty,  thats the reality of the situation.

as an aside, it was always the really disgusting, run down, crappy houses that the owners never took care of that had "WAL MART YES" signs in their front yard.

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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Fool,

Sex with minors is not ok, if you are an adult.

And I'm not 14, nor do I act it.

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so can i have sex with you?

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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Ahh but BW acts it IA, so its ok to say he does....

[there's worse things than being banned yknow.]

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"