"At the moment, it's either Argentina or Sweden.  In Sweden I have family that that we still have vague connections to."

If you are leaving the US for the bad treatment of the upper class then I would not go to a tax payer's nightmare like Sweden.

The more we approach election day, the more stark contrasts between right-wing media and left-wing media.
Here are, at the same hour, Fox and CNN headlines on the election. Interesting, or amusing at least.
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FOX NEWS

Palin Beats Alaska to the Punch
McCain campaign reports Palin is clear of any wrongdoing in trooper firing probe, ahead of state ethics report release

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/10/new-york-countys-ballots-print-%e2%80%98barack-osama%e2%80%99/
lol yeah.. mistake

crackhead:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/10/bagg.parking.politics.wfmy

House Democrats unveil draft climate change bill
Oct 7, 6:22 PM (ET)

By DINA CAPPIELLO
WASHINGTON (AP) - With the presidential election less than a month away and the economy reeling, House Democratic leaders on Tuesday unveiled a proposal to reduce the gases blamed for global warming from power plants, transportation and factories by 80 percent come 2050.

The draft legislation, which will be refined in coming months for introduction next year, would begin slowly, capping emissions of heat-trapping gases released by transportation and power plants first, then moving to other sectors of the economy. The money earned from auctioning off some of the permits would be redirected to energy efficiency and clean technologies. In later years, all permits would be sold with the proceeds going back to the taxpayer, unless Congress reauthorizes the bill.

"Politically, scientifically, legally, and morally, the question has been settled: regulation of greenhouse gases in the United States is coming," wrote House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman John Dingell, D-Mich., and energy and air quality subcommittee Chairman Rick Boucher, D-Va. in a letter explaining the 461-page draft, which has been in the works for two years and was the subject of more than two dozen hearings.

The only questions are when, and how.

With the economy in turmoil, prospects have dimmed for federal legislation that would create a massive new market for carbon dioxide and in the short-term likely increase energy costs. The draft also makes clear that the federal government should take the lead on regulating greenhouse gases, rebuffing states such as California that want to set their own fuel economy standards and pre-empting regional markets for carbon dioxide, such as the one in the Northeast.

The bill tries to address the economic concerns by excluding small businesses and increasing the number of permits when prices spike.

But Texas Rep. Joe Barton, the committee's senior Republican, said Tuesday the bill would still lead the country off "the economic cliff."

The proposal falls in between plans put forward by both presidential candidates, but makes deeper cuts than a similar bill that failed in the Senate earlier this year. All the proposals rely on a cap-and-trade mechanism - which allows industries to either reduce their pollution or to purchase credits from companies exceeding pollution targets - to meet mandates.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's plan calls for an 83 percent reduction in greenhouse gases from 2005 levels by 2050, while Republican John McCain's proposal would achieve a 66 percent cut over the same time period. A Senate bill that failed 48-36 in June would have slashed heat-trapping emissions from a variety of sources by 71 percent by mid-century.

Environmentalists on Tuesday said the bill was a step in the right direction, but criticized the pace of the cuts and some of the details. Reductions wouldn't begin until 2012, allowing time for the necessary technology to be developed.

The proposal floats an option that would bar the Environmental Protection Agency and states from setting fuel economy standards for vehicles different from those put forth by the Transportation Department. In April 2007, the Supreme Court ruled that the EPA could regulate carbon dioxide under the Clean Air Act. The Bush administration has since said the law is the wrong tool for the job.

"These options are straight from the playbook of the Big Three," said Frank O'Donnell, president of the advocacy group Clean Air Watch, referring to Dingell's connections with Detroit's automakers.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said such measures are needed to prevent overlapping jurisdiction. That, along with the extended timetable, makes this draft "the first time that anyone on Capitol Hill has opened the door to realistic discussion of issue" said Bill Kovacs, the chamber's vice president of Environment, Technology and Regulatory Affairs.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081007/D93LU45O0.html

We're on the hiiiiighway to Helllll

tell me..

is it just me or does palin piss everyone off?

A statement from her at one of the rallies

who is proud of america? LMFAO..who is proud of america..

cuz republicans are just automatically proud of america right?, they can go on hating half the people, they'll still be proud of america, they'll screw over half the people, they're still proud of america
or did they just build up that bull shit, for political gains -- i think the second one sounds more better

what has obama done that has made him an american hating maniac?

they'll say anything and you'll believe it won't you yell
next thing you know, republicans are guna be the ones caring for animals JUST because they said so --offcourse how can they lie..right?

now this is my big question, what's the angle? what is it that palin thinks obama was doing with ayers?
this is what i wanna know..please share with me your wisdom of knowing who is proud and who isn't...

and about that thing palin said about obama seeing america as so imperfect..
anyone who thinks america is the perfect nation in the world with no mistakes is just ignorant and selfish and the opposite of proud...
it takes a real man to see the problems and fix them
or well you could just shut up, keep believing that you're perfect and keep living with your problems that you could've pointed out and fixed..

Yell, anyone with half a brain should be ashamed of America atm, both the country and its government. How can someone be so self-centered to not care at all about the world you live in and just do and say anything to artificially maintain whatever position they have?

I wish the Fed hadn't done bailout, then average america's "joe sixpack" would bite the dust so hard he'd lose his teeth. Then I'd like to see Palin appealing to an ordinary american who had just realised he had been duped and pandered to by a bunch of hypocrits in the government.

You people are pathetic. Obama a terrorist, lol. Stop being so damn stupid and look away from your bellybutton. It helps.

Yes, the world is against you. We hate you and all your production, values and morals. We kinda like McDonald's though.

Do you really need to victimize yourself and badmouth everyone else so often?

Duh... not funny at the moment. I'm sad it becomes so virulent and people lose objectivity

Basically, all the liberal media are now portraying the McCain Campaign as a farce and trying to avoid talking about anything but the economy as it could favor McCain, and Fox News "took the gloves off" and is balancing this by enforcing a McCain commitment to the point of propaganda.

Ho, the leftist media are also trying to put the "race" issue on top because, hey, "if the campaigns won't do it we'll do it ourselves, it's juicy". Bah.

As for the candidates, Obama is playing his Messiah act of Mr Cool under pressure, screaming only to say he's the only one concerned about the real issues, and McCain is going just a bit less populist than Palin. I almost regret a Clinton/Giuliani catfight.

I propose to put the IC independent Kemp/Yell ticket in the real race to boost the interest - before we kill ourselves of boredom.

@Yell: The (idea of the) kyoto protocol was a good investment oppurtunity. The engineering schools would have benefitted so much out of it. It would have allowed the US to produce much more, in terms of new technologies that nobody else has. The solar cell research, for example, is almost exclusive to the US universities. But not the market yet.

Well, the research is underway because whatever happens, a treaty of that kind has to come along after 10 years. Whoever is the next president and the one afterwards, there will be a treaty - and let's better prepare for it. 

*note: The actual Kyoto limits might not have been selected properly, but I am referring to a treaty limiting pollution (both C02 and generic pollution)

Long time republican and former secretary of state Gen.Collin Powell endorsed Obama today, the day the Obama campaign released their fundraising reports for september which broke all records. The Obama campaign raised more than $150 million in the month of september, this news comes one day after Obama held a rally in a red-state and the turnout topped the people at "Obama's big speech" with a jaw-breaking 100,000 number of people.

>>The Obama campaign raised more than $150 million in the month of september<<

Yes we all know McCain is woefully behind among crooks and foriegners

BTW this represents a stunningly successful lie by Obama, who promised to take federal financing.