Lol Arganon, what you whining about?

In my eyes all non-hardcore galaxies are the same, just some minor stats that are different. Why do you care that a galaxy is named Pinwheel or Triangalum?

Surprisingly, I'll have to say the following: Arganon is right.

Too many things not properly thought over are being done, and most aren't properly done either. I'm a fan of work being done, but we should pick a course and stick to it.

I agree that reshuffles less than 3 rounds is ridiculous.... you hardly get a chance to work together for more than half a round anymore

I have to say I hate you Arganon, but I hate to say I agree with you 100%

IC is being a whole experiment these days, too complicated for newbies, too confusing for vets. Come on Mods, if you call triangulum a test-gal then you are profanating many IC players feelings. I was born in triangulum as a player and grew there. Now you use it as a test gal, but, for what purpose??? test gal?  well then listen to what vets playing there think about what has to be changed and arrange it. It is hard, in a chaotic round like last, when you finally get 4 people playing active and coordinated and everyone agrees to stay in fam, it is hard to see it all going to hell this way, you dont let real fams be formed, you dont let new players grow, you dont let vets teach new players because u are constanly changing the game and it doesnt fit with what they learn from vets.

Also, reopen Tri so I can kick Arganon's ass once more

I don't wanna sound like im having a go but seriously 50% of the things you describe are essential to finding the best gameplay... and well the other 50% was just crap.

such as changing the gal size, changing fam size etc..

For example, last capri round (which we all understood was a test) was way too big, i mean i think some lower families stored a week or more expos until the last day feeling fully comfortable that they would be able to explore 60 planets without worry. It was too big FACT which meant something had to be done.

You say that draco should be used as a test gal, I fully understand that it is not the most active gal anymore but seriously.. You want to reward the people that pay to keep this game up by giving them a TEST gal to play on, do you really think that will make non-VIPs consider it, because if I wasn't VIP I sure as hell wouldn't consider that a bonus.

You said : "make a prio1 gal." and  "Less gals = more fun"

They have closed tri meaning one less gal, and also making Capri the priority Gal so really they are doing what you ask on that front... Less is more you say, well don't whine when they are putting that into practise.

"Once that gal got 100 15member fams its time to make a new gal ..... then merge together."

Are you for real? We have roughly what, 700+ members  of which a good handful will be non regulars and your talking about 100*15 thats 1500 players your almost dreaming for  a double up of players.

"STOP CHANGING EVERTHING ALL THE TIME !S" yet you say "Make the best possible configuaration where we get..... "

What do you think all the changes are for? They are trying to find the best configuration... you cannot expect them to get it perfect, what your asking for would be hold all gals until we play a test gal and find the best configuration (This is loosely what is happening with Capri)

"Once you have come up with a configuration for a gal YOU DO NOT make major changesof that gal."

This is probably the only sound thing you said along with the less reshuffles, in your original statement, I agree once the right config is found nothing should be changed,and in turn reshuffles should be toned down, the only problem is your not patient enough to wait for the right configuration to be found.

"N00bs are never becomming vets no more.
Want to know why ?  "

No the reason was because there used to be too many draft spots meaning fams filled up with vets not really giving the n00bs a chance to learn from players unless they went out of their way to do so.
Congrats to thouse players who did put the effort in when most fams were concentrating on a draft-fam strat.

However the mods have corrected this by reducing the ammount of draft spots, so just give it time.

Seriously I probably will have made some mis-types in this post but thats because im tired after a long day at work... People will disagree with some of the things i've said, thats understandable but all I am trying to say is you contradict yourself over and over again, and do you want to know why?

Because your too impatient and want everything to happen now. You are just wishing for a miracle to happen where everything sits perfect for you, it aint gunna happen, just get over it.

And don't think im saying this because I may have landed in a decewnt family, last round I ended up in the family rank 50 out of 50,,,half way through the round. You know what I did, I thought "Hey you know what, ill take the second half of this round and try and help some of the newer players out, I even drafted in noobs to teach them the game...true I had to convince the 1 or 2 players that were active that these guys knew what they were doing," And We made a good effort and ended about 38th in size, from 50NW 50Score 50Size with 4 weeks left.

You know what I didn't do, come in here complaining that I landed in a semi-active, or lets be honestly reletively dead fam, and then start throwing demands about. Seriously get a grip, get some respect and just settle for a lesser round or 2 while you group together a team. So what if there is changes, it happens to everyone not just you, if you have made good friends and not too many enemies getting a good starting fam back togetrher again will not be a problem.

I know we don't like the reshuffles and other processes that are going on IC is like an experiment at the moment but the only reason that is happening is because they are trying to get the game HOW YOU WANT IT

Dubber:

is it odd if i get a bit tired of some of the things that goes on when thoes actions spoils plans I make.
For instance the plan for next round to join with my mate londontown and hes crue and get a far better round doing so.
Well that will most likly not happen now.
Im tired to be a techer of n00bs and the one who thoes the fighting for the inactivs.
I need to play in a fam of ppl like myself or I wont be able to keep up the intresst for the game.

Dubber I think the essence of what he means is right though. Take Triangulum for instance: the galaxy is opened as there are few spots left in Capricorn.
Players move there, get established, acquainted to their family members, all of this with no serious notice of the galaxy being closed in the near future. They plan for a new round etc etc, then all of a sudden the galaxy is closed because Capricorn lacks players. Honestly, if I had played Tri last round, used up my time to get the family working and had plans for next round, I'd be seriously p'd off atm.

We all realise managing the wills and tempers of so many is hard, but sometimes you just can't do everything. If something doesn't work you can't simply scrap it and move on, especially if it involves other people.

Cool heads on broad shoulders people!

3 months? When it was 2.5 it was too long. Can't have tri alliances with so few fams. Mods do need to think things through. 1st theere isnnt a reshuffle then there is and now poor tri guys are joining capri late. We got room but still I think. Its.  Good to try new thingsd or ic will continue to die. This round will be coolsome fams are filled.  There could of been a better way of doing it

[TI] arsbury :

"You don't consider how unpredictable the game can be. Take Cap for instance... 600 players full last round, this round we are barely getting 450. Without making changes to suit the situation, you're going to end up with a lot of half-assed half-full fams."
first off not all players that will play in capri have show up yet wich will add some players at the most 1/3 more id say thus that problem are no more.

"Yes, you may be in a good fam now... but what about the countless people in Tri last round with crappy fams?"
What should they do ?
Check their allie and if thats a better fam draft into that one and create an even better fam for next round.
If not seach among ur foes of that round and pick a better fam to draft into.

" I checked the galaxy before the round ended and around 50 of the 180 people in there were under 10k NW. By not changing things, you're going to have the same problems. Capricorn still has 150 spots to fill and its already been open 5 days... if we open Tri and keep it the same as it was last round,"
Thats true tri had to few players wich is another reason for stepping back a bit run the game with a real gal and a test gal and NO MORE gals.

" that's an extra 200 spots to fill. 69 people have elected to stay in fam, that 7 full fams... out of 20. Where's the fun in that? Where are the other 130 people going to come from?"
If a gal  becomes a "show off" gal new players will start to poor in as more and more start to like that gal.
Often rl mates bring in their mates and if only 1 everadge pulled in 1 we would DUBBLE player amount...
But for that to happen there must be a VERY good gal with a lot of fun gameplay to lure the players to play is.
You know there is over 4000 online games to compete with.

"When mods take decisions, they have to consider the game as a whole. When you make threads like this, you're thinking of yourself."
You are mistaken these ideas are best for both the game and a indivual player BOTH !

"Things are never as black and white as you make it seem... you want less and bigger gals... so why are you so adament that we reopen Tri?"
Tri shouldnt have been open true but when it is why the hell cant it be runned in a way that you can over a few rounds slowly develop a nice fam for instance ?
Why closing now and then why reshuffle now and then why early ending now and then.
These things SPOILS the fun for the players.
Can this really be the intention of the mods or stefan ?

that most of us know and accept the rules of our game, and most people left this game when the rules started to change, "i DID".
we need 4 galaxy's, one for new people (virgo) one for people just out of virgo (PW), one for people that want a community more than a war (old MW) and an all out war galaxy (andro or the old orion).
and the premium galaxy should be set differently, like a choice of one on one, or a family that chooses to be together.
even a galaxy that the idiots can set up they're own rules if they pay enough then let them have it... it can't go too far from the original programing to give a paying customer what they want, but we (the bulk of the players) have to deal with the set of standard rules, and advertising.
i would love for them to find a place to go, cause i for one can deal with the advertising, but they're maniacal, megalomaniac, self serving, shit.... is getting on my nerves.
maybe this belongs in ideas but either way i have said it before, with no action.
but if someone wants to make they're own rules, tell them give me the money ("show me the money") other wise keep it like it is, and find an absolution to making the rules we have a fact, instead of letting some break them, and others get away with breaking them.

lets see if I unerstand this correctly...
Ic get to keep fewer and fewer players for each new round for differnt reasons and the current gals cant therefore be filled so in a while we will have 5 fam gals and 5 such gals ?

WOW what a fun game ! :):)