Re: Obama and history of Radicalism

uh huh

McCain's the one with propaganda songs for kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs

and McCain's the one with marching kids in uniform chanting his praises

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8

and McCain's the one who wants govt to solve ever-ok yeah McCain is an idiot

But Barack is the second coming of Che

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77 (edited by Smiof 13-Oct-2008 00:00:10)

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Let me explore a bit more on this issue, since it is important for me.

The differences between communist soviets and capitalist west is not only goverment-operation and bussiness-oriented society. Each type of goverment comes with a set of features. The 'left-vs-right' distinction is somewhat silly for me, goverments do not measure up in a simple line.


That said, McCain's campaign is using the same rhetoric that communist regimes have. (the campaing - not McCain)


What really really gets me about the debate about tax cuts and the "obama will take your money" - I had a friend from Belarus. The totalitarian regime there said the same exact phrase to get elected. Negative campaigning was not invented in the States.

Palin's refusal to mingle with the media. Is she a [the fmods are watching] queen? 2 commie points for McCain's campaign.

The republican party snub at professors and "elitists." This I take as a personal attack. 1 commie point for the party itself.

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Haha, the second song is from a frat. The first one - we are still in a campaign, right?

Ok, Obama is no saint, but the one campaign closer to a commies version is the other one.

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Rofl, Obama Youth.

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What songs did kids sing to

Carter/Ford?
Carter/Reagan?
Mondale/Reagan?
Dukakis/Bush?
Clinton/Bush?
Clinton/Dole?
Gore/Bush?
Kerry/Bush?

kids singing to the Great leader is not part of american campaigning.  nor is HIGH SCHOOL kids--not college students-- marching and chanting... those are Commie techniques

Palin not mingle with the press? Who's Katie couric? Who's Charlie gibson?

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They looked like college kids to me? Alpha omega - I thought it was a frat.
The choir - ok, a Hollywood political setup is not in the american political heritage. But it is not coming from the campaign HQ, as opposed to the decision to get Palin. That decision came up from the McCain campaign itself. That was too radical of a decision.

And she has had just 5 interviews up until now! People are voting and she has had 3 real interviews and 2 on SNL big_smile and she still has to "get back" to answer one of her questions

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"But Barack is the second coming of Che"

Believe me, a bit more of socialism would do america good!

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No it wouldnt.

As we have seen over and over on these forums, once we Americans explain how Americans abuse every free lunch and handout program, some European socialist blurts, "well yeah if you're gonna act like that it can't work"!

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

84 (edited by avogadro 13-Oct-2008 13:36:43)

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well, unless we see a dramatic boom in the economy and/or we see a very serious foreign threat before election time; i would be preparing for the 2nd coming of Che, there, yell.

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or not, if we see a bradely effect

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McCain is being so dumb I think Obama has a good shot.

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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McCain is being so dumb I think Obama has a good shot.

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Hiding your school record, is it as bad as hiding your military record? To hide the fact you were AWOL??

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And anything worth dying for, is certainly worth living for.

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Do you know what's funny about all this? If it wasn't for the upper class and journalism's elitism, America would be prone to turn into a right-wing dictatorship, a.k.a. a fascist regime. The right wing's agenda is so similar to Italy's Berlusconi or Austria's far-right parties it's scary.
But just the thought of having to face a NYT's cover calling you a fascist gives your everyday politician nightmares. Phew tongue

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LOL, if McCain was the the Demarcate we would probably here from the Hanity types that he was more then likely brain washed while he was a POW and how could we dare take that type of risk by electing him to the highest office in the country.

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91 (edited by Gladiator 13-Oct-2008 19:54:34)

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sticks, you don't have to wait for mccain to be a democrat for fox to be a hypocrite

they ALREADY ARE tongue, there is video proof ..i remember making a thread on this forum aswell, a little more than a few weeks ago
they're ALL hypocrites tongue

for example, Tim Kaine was seen as a pure political choice by karl rowe because tim kaine's executive experience is of a state which he considers small and tiny
but then Palin was the greatest choice ever and alaskan experience was the best experience, and a town of 9000 wasn't so small anymore for him..


and when o'rielly had a whole program blaming the parents of lynn spears for her pregnancy, saying and repeating that parents should teach better values to their kids -- and then when Bristol's pregnancy was brought into light o'rielly said: as long as you don't have to support them, you can't blame them and criticize them,

all a buncha hypocrites -- and i'm not saying it's only fox, i've only really seen evidence of fox so..maybe it is tongue

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Hmm McCain braiwashed by commies would explain his reaching across the aisle so much

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> Selur Ku wrote:

> Are you old enough to play this game bustyourchops?

If you think obama is a communist then you have the mental age of a 5 year-old.

kinda struck a commie nerve in you  there,aye selur ku? =P

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Yeah, I thought that was a hillarious statement. Only a 5 year old could call someone else a 5 year old for being more educated than them. tongue

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Only a 5 year old would laugh about a 5 year old calling someone else a 5 year old for being more educated than them.

Communism is a great theory. So is capitalism. Sadly neither work. Why do you keep bickering over which sucks the most?

So much futility hmm

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look... i don't need to read any of this crap.... if they are dem or rep... they want for themselves at the end game.
we need a new party, and we need people to stop this team politics.
vote for the better man irregardless of what the media says.
that is the only way out, other than revolution.... i cringe at the possibility that my fellow Americans would end up killing each other for wanting the same thing, not knowing that half of them are inadvertently fighting for what has hurt us in the first place.

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I think the really disgusting part of this all is how open everyone is about shutting off their brains. There are a lot of people who are aware that this guy has no experience, allied himself with radical Amerika haters for decades, and has the worst news the economy could hear. And they don't care. They're black so it's time a black guy held the office. Or they're sophisticated so clearly, if they elect a black guy, they're not ignorant pricks anymore. Or they're socialists, and they'll have to change their pants constantly if he's elected because it'll be a constant wet dream for them.

It's a long-time myth in many media sources that the democratic party is the party of the poor, poverty-stricken, working man who Amerika isn't good enough to. So while the majority of working middle class Amerikans still vote republican, you've got well-to-do upper middle class whities who feel moral superiority for belonging to the clearly ethically superior party of the working man (who the working man isn't voting for)(because hey, they're not going to miss the extra cash. they have lots more) and poor welfare abusers who are ALWAYS going to vote for the guy offering bigger handouts.

Somewhere in the mix the honest discussion of the actual policy and ideal differences was lost a LONG time ago. Corrupt politicians with [S--T] for brains are supported by the general public which, in large part, has similarly corrupt (selfish) motivations coupled with absolute ignorance of whatever the position they've judged best for their selfish desires (be it ego, or handouts, or who-knows what) doesn't tell them to think. This willful ignorance and outright stupidity is disturbing because, in this society, it doesn't stop arrogance and self-righteousness. You can be a complete moron voting based on handouts or an ego trip, openly NOT concerned with the substance of the political options before you, and STILL be loudly arrogant and self-righteous. You can do it on TV. You are encouraged to do it in your local political processes. Because everyone else has shut off their brains too. Blind following the blind.

His preference with education is to spend money to radicalize children to demand socialism from their government, not spend money to improve education and the failing systems that haven't been providing it in many areas. But that's okay. Just move on. It's not like an educated population in a capitalist nation has ever prosperred. What ignorant thinking that would be! Better socialize them now than invest in their success in a free market.

His preference with the economy is to rape it. Obviously the do-good-for-the-poor man democrats have a great solution to the tax burden on citizens of this great nation: Tax the wealthy a lot more to make up for a lowered burden on the poor man. They have money to spare, so why not? It never actually happens this way, and never includes with Barack Hussein Obama. First, the burden on the poor man is never actually lifted. Give people like this more money to work with? Yeah, look at their records. Their first thought is always to give it back to you and me. Then there's the real reason this position on taxation is ridiculously ignorant (and thus, perpetually proposing it as a more just change [hey! we'll tax the hell out of them! you'll get revenge! Vengeance 2008; a reasonable ticket not aiming to short-circuit your rational decision making!]). It doesn't work. The rich who are supposedly going to be taxed more have a great investment in their money; it's theirs. And they'll invest in ways that won't suffer from the tax increases and safely break all kinds of laws (lawyers ftw) to avoid these higher taxes. Barack Hussein Obama wasn't a HUGE recipient (often #1 or #2!) of huge financial corporations' campaign contributions because he promised to tax them more heavily. They know it doesn't actually happen like that.

His position of being black is racist. His father was black (I'm thinking aaaaaaaaaarab! his name isn't a traditional african name. I think I recognize it from another culture, though...). His mother was white. That makes his genetic material half of black ancestry and half of white ancestry. To call him black or for him to call himself black is racist. It presumes and ACCEPTS ignorant prejudices that having any black ancestors labels you as black ABOVE the various other labels which are tied to your ancestral heritage. The fact that many in Amerika (I'm looking at you, ignorant dill-weeds) accept this view--that if you're any amount black, you black! cause they're nearly all muts anyway!--does mean that, culturally, socially, he'll be treated as 'black' with all of the horrible racism that Amerika is so proud of in this day and age. With some variance in the 'black' community itself. It's no secret if you're more light or darked skin. And some notice with more than just their eyes. He's VERY educated. If he wanted to move beyond race and really wanted to move beyond racism (which is ethically reprehensible. to the highest degree. beyond any discussion. it's wrong. very wrong. period.), I have to question is his chosen course of action in his career and the thinkers he associates with most closely (his 'mentors', no less).

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good points. 
Well, one reason that the taxes are proposed to be increased is to avoid increasing the foreign debt, while still keeping government spending. The spending book has to be balanced and suggest how else would this happen?

As for him being black - well, US citizens usually call him black. You are right, Kemp, I agree with you. But - around here, being black is "having non-white ancestry," that is just the definition around here. It is a wrong definition, I know.

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99 (edited by BUSTURCHOPS 14-Oct-2008 01:13:06)

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Right on man!
I could'nt of said it better myself.

@V.Kemp

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Yeah it is ridiculous to DEMAND republicans accept the Obama "95% taxcut gteed plan" as gospel and not mention the Charles Rangel "I'm actually in Congress and have a vote on taxes unlike a President, eliminate the housing exemption and marriage deduction, actual proposal from 2007" as a republican "smear" of Obama

When Obama Biden denounce Rangel as extremist and gteed an Obama veto we can talk

Ps I have heard black friends say many times African is not the same as black, black means a fusion

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.