No, they were quickly overwhelmed and consumed by a series of Hellenic civilizations for a thousand years, then foriegners got into the act.

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"No, they were quickly overwhelmed and consumed by a series of Hellenic civilizations for a thousand years, then foriegners got into the act."

err? Hellenic civilisations are Greek civilisations
"Ancient greece" is the era starting with the minoic civilisation and ending with greece becoming a part of the Roman Empire. In that period, they were never completely conquered by an external civilisation (although the Persians came close). The only one who was able to unite greece was Alexander the Great, and he was greek too

Hellas is greek for Greece

and WFS, Alexander was macedonian X(

No Macedonia wasn't a part of greece or even a greek city-state. Greece was united with macedonia by philip II. And yes gayness was acepted in their society. Alexander the great was thought to be gay.

except they weren't greek they were macedonian. That like saying canadians are americans.

Teaching young children to reject, look down upon and ultimately hate gays and their lifestyles would be indoctrination. Simple as.

Smelly lady, boo hiss!

And at a comment like "I think Islam is a threat to our nation", you really know it's time to stop listening!

"except they weren't greek they were macedonian. That like saying canadians are americans."

Then give me 1 good reason why they weren't greek.. And no, it's like saying Americans and Canadians are part of the western civilisation. There were no explicit greeks, there were Athenians, Spartans, Arcadians, Korinthians, Rhodians etc. but they all shared the same history, cultural background, etc. wich was after all greek..

"In todays globalism its not hard not to have the same history and such"

Stearns used it to define the Western civilisation and put disputed countries to the test, like America, Russia and Tukey. He compared them on various fronts. As for history, he compared them on a longer period of time..

"Does anyone here know of a two- year old enrolled in a government school?"

Do children's programming on a government sponsored television network or government daycare count?

On the point of no civilization that accepted homosexuality lasted more than a few decades that is a crock.

I've always held this view on homosexuality, as long as gay men aren't harassing me by constantly hitting on me or attempting to ridicule me for being straight, actually had one guy do that it made me laugh, they can go about their merry way.  As long as both participants are consenting adults where people find love is none of my business, nor is it anyone's business besides said consenting adults.

Now do I think schools should be teaching children they have to accept homosexuals no I think we should stop teaching children to view people differently.  I'm willing to admit that I am slightly racist and part of what caused me to be that way is 9 years of being told I HAD to accept people of different races and cultures.  First off I hate being told what I have to do and secondly all they did was emphasize how other races were different from me.  And the more they told me about these differences the more I noticed them and the more I decided I didn't like them.

If you want kids to accept other people's differences stop pointing them out and categorizing them.  If we stop teaching kids that behaviour x makes a person part of group y then they'll start thinking of behaviour x as a personal quirk rather than a group affiliation.

They have that reputation because they organize around the act of boinking. You wouldnt feel totally comfortable around the Antwerp Bowling League of Ladies Who Like To Ball, would you?

And my point is that Greek political organizations didnt last a thousand years, which is different than saying a Greek civilization lasted a thousan years. And Macedonians were a Hellenic culture

yell, the macedonians were greekish, not originally considered greek by the athenians and spartans and the classical era greek world, but by the time the eastern empire was saying good bye to its western counterpart, they were being included in the fold of 'original' greek tribes. at least as megisti explained to me, give or take a few centuries.

your sticking point should be that the greeks themselves never considered the macedonians greek, until long after the macedonians paved the way for their dimunition of national identity.

finally, saying the greeks embraced homosexuality is an anachronistic pipedream. familiarize yourself with the pederasty and then understand its extant, practice, and (d)evolution, and the demagraphics of the class that practiced it.

True paul.  WFS, have you ever seen the film Alexander? It explains a little about Macedonian history.  Also, Macedon was not a part of Greece, it was a separate nation with it's own king. Elysian, calling the Macedonians "greekish" simply because they were next to Greece is like calling Americans people Canadian or Scottish people English, its daft and would go down well.

Modern homosexual culture also has rules of its own. Most of what we like to imagine are hardwired rules of behavior are culture not biology.

Macedonians were hellenic not hellenes. The asians they conquered became hellenistic. From what i know they wrote with the greek alphabet. Canada australia and usa are all anglophone.