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Not neccesarily. It's quite often that we have friends or have had friends that do things we don't agree with.


"It is possible that Einstein and Inviltrist were allies in IC for political advantage, but you know everyone does that in this game even if they hate each other. So Einstein and Invil doesn't count. They were doing business, not building a meaningful interpersonal relationship."


That right there kinda contradicts what you said =p

Sex without the e is still SX!

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Actually we could make the same argument about Bush and Bin Laden big_smile

Sex without the e is still SX!

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I didn't say it guaranteed your actual beliefs, I said it suggested it. Yes people have differing beliefs, but generally you don't get a fascist and a communist together. Maybe a moderate conservative and liberal, but not when their beliefs are very polarized from one another.

Now now, I was talking about a meaningful relationship not a business partner. The latter is different, I do business with my enemies all the time.

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Ok I can agree with that then big_smile

Sex without the e is still SX!

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justin the ayers you guys mention of was the ayers that was only there when obama was 8
the ayers obama met was a rehabilitated, professor involved heavily in charities and non-profit organizations helping the education in chicago
Obama has already said that he fully diss-approves of ayers decisions in the 60s

ok this is what i don't understand, they served on a CHARITY board together, they prlly only talked a couple of times
what would you have done, well yeah i know what mccain would've done, he states his thoughts when the economy was going bad, he wanted everyone fired, he probably would've walked out but who does that harm? the people depending on that charity offcourse
i'm actually glad obama put the charity in front of his personal views, his personal career
damn glad...

elysian, i didn't say they should be compared
i just gave einstein a suggestion that if you're guna be stupid enough to mention all associations of the candidates, even if the associations were from a charity board, than you gotta look at both sides, and i helped him out a little on the other side :
i frankly think, they're both stupid

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Obama was on a charity board? Elitist scum!

Je maintiendrai

32 (edited by Inviltrist 07-Oct-2008 22:08:51)

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> Justinian I wrote:

> Einstein and Inviltrist were close with one another? Lies!

It is possible that Einstein and Inviltrist were allies in IC for political advantage, but you know everyone does that in this game even if they hate each other. So Einstein and Invil doesn't count. They were doing business, not building a meaningful interpersonal relationship.

Nolio,

But who you associate with suggests what you actually believe.
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That's what Ayers and Obama were doing.   They were doing business, not establishing an interpersonal relationsip.




See how easy it is to link people?  According to their logic though,  Einstein must be an atheistic radical leftist socialst.



Truth is,  Einstein and I never were great friends,  but we got along, despite our personal beliefs.


I still respect him as a person though,  and I think he's an intelligent guy,  just very, very,  very misguided.

He who stands atop the highest pyramid of skulls can see the furthest

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1. he's not rehabilitated (@gladiator). that's why anyone who repeats the fact obama was 8 when it all went down is either shallow-minded or, in the case of the media, deceitful. because up till most recently obama has been socializing (politically) with an unrepetentant domestic terrorist.

2. a charity ? ohhhhh, and so is Hamas. if you aren't a little brainwashed sheeple, you should question the nature of a charity that appoints a person like ayers to its board.

3. the question is the depth of their acquaintanceship/friendship. i could tell you i wouldn't kick off my bid for the senate at the house of somebody like ayers. it would be at one of my friend's house, prolly one of them who was a great supporter and influential. that's what ppl do.

but no, obama just happened to be in the neighborhood.

you know someone is too good to be true when young lil sheeples flock to be his trial lawyer. and you see that look in their eyes, the little sheeples, and you might think it was innocence...innocence spelled n-a-i-v-e-t-e.

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Young little sheeples?


I'm voting for Obama,  however I don't think he's some saviour.  He's just a politician at the end of the day, but I support him because he is more in line with my school of thought than McCain.



I party with a lot of people. I hate most of them.  Hell,  I've even dated a couple christian girls.   I look past these peoples disgusting beliefs because I like the sex and drugs.    Just cause you know someone doesn't mean you share the same beliefs.

He who stands atop the highest pyramid of skulls can see the furthest

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"And now the RNC has seen that Gaza terrorists are giving thousands, if not more, of cash to Obama. "

Yes, and Iraqies, the taliban, the old Soviet Union, Attila the Hun, Cortez, the British Empire, Dzenghis-Kahn, Montezuma, a Martian xenophobic party, Green Peace, the European Union, Hamas, North Korea, Tamil Tigers, Liechtenstein, the FIFA, the Olympic comittee, Lawnmowers and even golfclubs (in both meanings of the word), yuppies, students, the Green Slime, S.H.I.E.L.D., the Fantastic four and even the coalition of the willing are all donating billions to Obama to get him elected!

God: Behold ye angels, I have created the ass.. Throughout the ages to come men and women shall grab hold of these and shout my name...

36 (edited by Gladiator 08-Oct-2008 00:39:12)

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wow i think i agree with invil 100% tongue
but obama to some degree is different smile

"1. he's not rehabilitated (@gladiator). that's why anyone who repeats the fact obama was 8 when it all went down is either shallow-minded or, in the case of the media, deceitful. because up till most recently obama has been socializing (politically) with an unrepetentant domestic terrorist."

-the man's a professor now, and serves on various different charities to better education? would you want a man to basically say "i don't like that man, i don't share his views, screw the children, screw education,i'm not guna be on the same board", i honestly would want a man like obama who puts the charity first, above his personal views and his differences with people on the board

2. a charity ? ohhhhh, and so is Hamas. if you aren't a little brainwashed sheeple, you should question the nature of a charity that appoints a person like ayers to its board.
-he's a professor, he's NOW a man who's doing everything he can to better education in chicago
and now are you saying that you have to be brainwashed to think a charity for education is good? c'mon

3. the question is the depth of their acquaintanceship/friendship. i could tell you i wouldn't kick off my bid for the senate at the house of somebody like ayers. it would be at one of my friend's house, prolly one of them who was a great supporter and influential. that's what ppl do.
-he was invited there by the lady who dropped out and asked obama to take her position,
and yeah i really excpect obama to basically say "oh i'm invited to a party there, WAIT, who's house is it at? hmmm, wait let me go through the list of domestic terrorist that bombed places when i was 8, and let me check if his name shows up" tongue LOL
and like invill said, i've went to parties that are hosted by people who i HATEE, ACTUALLY i went just last weekend to this girls party, and this girl was mostly the reason that i broke up with one of my exs, i hate her, but i went for the other people who were there big_smile and there were some sexy people tongue

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>>Or he could be trying to have as much of a private life as possible? <<

He won't name a single person he had any contact with. He won't share anything about his studies that he's capable of sealing the records to. Anyone who thinks his behavior is his protecting his personal life is in denial.

>>accusing obama of having ties to a "domestic terrorrist" because they served among other people together on the board of a commitee for better education for children or something along those lines<<

Maybe before you post you should consider actually learning the news, 'eh? You have no idea what his connection is with Ayers and yet you post anyway. Thanks for nothing. NEXT!

If I lived in Alaska I'd probably want to leave the Union too. For the most part you're a bunch of dishonest, morally reprehensible, intellectually retarded wankers.

>>The people around you don' tmake you who you are.<<

But the people who trust you and you trust to distribute 60 million dollars for each other are usually people you agree with concerning the spending of that money (on the radicalization of youth. because they don't need a real education that will better their lives. they need to be 'educated' to further political careers! that's real philanthropy.)

>>It's like me showing a video of McCain being friends with a guy who became the leader of the KKK in Montana and saying McCain is a racist.<<

If you have a video of McCain being trusted to spread 60 million dollars for the leader of the KKK and launching his political career in the home of the leader of the KKK, that's something we should all know about. You don't? Great parallel. Thanks. Very enlightening.

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why were you so selective in responsing? =S
and you didn't even respond my quote properly

i think that avi of urs, with it's flashin light which has jsut given me a headache X( -- is getting to you..

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/07/obama.ayers/index.html

rather surprised to see this on CNN

"But the relationship between Obama and Ayers went deeper, ran longer and was more political than Obama -- and his surrogates -- have revealed, documents and interviews show"

look into the nature of the "education", gladiator. indoctrination, propaganda which turned out not to improve education.

oh, rehabilitated b/c he's a professor? ..................!.................wow!

gladiator, i'm a professor. believe everything i say. i am all-good, like unto Jesus and Mohammed.

...

the accident meant for a napkin can do more damage as a professor now than he could as a stupid bomb-maker.

Re: Obama and history of Radicalism

Kemp, very little of what you have posted is true or makes much sense. I'd go furthur in talking with you but it wouldn't serve much purpose since you didn't really give any support to what you said. I still haven't seen any proof about Obama being a radical or a terrorist. Just a lot of speculation and propaganda. So not sure what the point of this thread is.

Sex without the e is still SX!

41 (edited by V.Kemp 08-Oct-2008 08:06:44)

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Sorry, Gladiator, I didn't mean to ignore some of it. But you made it clear you don't know Obama's relationship with him and I'm not going to take the time to find news article links. tongue

Thanks for being so specific, Spidermanbearpig. Now I can back up the facts you dispute with sources!

I only really mentioned 2 things in my last post. Obama won't release his records and is also prohibiting his schools from releasing any. He won't name a single friend from that time. He won't release his senior thesis. EVERYTHING he can hide he is hiding. I'm not making this up. It's not untrue.

Obama distrubuted 60 million dollars of grant money for Ayers. They were obviously in agreement about how this money was spent. It was not spent on programs to improve students' math, science, or english skills. It was used to support groups like ACORN. I don't have the grant-giver's name on the top of my head. Sean Hannity's been talking about it for days. That doesn't make it untrue.

Telling me vaguely that "very little of what you have posted is true or makes much sense" doesn't make it true. I'm sorry if you're not comfortable with the truth. Is this denial an indicator that if I spend a while searching for internet articles I can link to to verify my statements that you'll have problems with Obama? Because you're not defending him for doing what he's actually done, just denying it because they haven't reported it on CNN or MSNBC.

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Ah, ok now you're making more sense. You didn't word your previous post right. I can agree with you now =p

Sex without the e is still SX!

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Blasphemy! Racist! lol big_smile

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44 (edited by [TI] Lateralis 11-Oct-2008 16:15:04)

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Read: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html

To those who understand I extend my hand; To the doubtful I demand to take me as I am.

Re: Obama and history of Radicalism

factcheck, another little democratic electioneering tool pretending to be non-partisan.

46 (edited by Gladiator 11-Oct-2008 19:22:28)

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Kemp, if you're following hannity, you should also watch hannity gettng OWNED by one of obama's campaign managers
the charge is that he's guilty by association...

now this is what i find wrong, if you're guna look at one candidates questionable associations, look at both sides..it's only fair
mccain has his share and palin even with her quite small resume tongue she still has hers
biden prlly has some aswell,..just haven't heard of them yet

they're politicians, and a little point about ayers
to make an impact or even learn about the education system in chicago without having any association with ayers is nearly impossible
now ayers met obama as a professor, so what is it we're really trying to say here? that obama and ayers are making a big plan to destroy america inside out? give me a break...

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"factcheck, another little democratic electioneering tool pretending to be non-partisan"

Factcheck exposes lies from both sides.

Its far more balanced then the likes of V.Kemp & Flint with  their pathetic ridculous (& partisan) claims.

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Palin is a power abuser? Anyone? hmm

49 (edited by Gladiator 12-Oct-2008 00:05:25)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

LMFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOO
the lady with the red coat at 00:51  WAS f'ing HILLLLLLLLAAARRRRIOUSSSSS

" Lady: I can't trust obama, i've read about him
he's not ugghh..
he's ughh..nott...ugh
he's a..umm.. umm..ughh
he's aaa..umm
he's aaaaa
he's a ARAB
he's not

McCain: no, no, no, no
no mam, he's not..hes not mam

Lady: oh he's not? no?"

McCain: gimme the damn mic...

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wow, haha, I was just reading a few articles about this new development. One of the articles was at CNN, it was well written in my opinion (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/mccain.crowd/index.html):


With recent polls showing Sen. Barack Obama's lead increasing nationwide and in several GOP-leaning states, some Republicans attending John McCain-Sarah Palin campaign rallies are showing a new emotion: rage.


An angry supporter confronts Sen. John McCain at a rally in Wisconsin on Thursday.

1 of 2  At a rally in Minnesota on Friday, a woman told McCain: "I don't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's an Arab."

McCain shook his head and said, "No ma'am, no ma'am. He's a decent family man...[a] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues. That's what this campaign is all about."

One man at the rally said he was "scared of an Obama presidency." McCain later told the man he should not fear Obama.

I am all-in on electrics.