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If that's all you read into it, Gladiator, you need to go back to school.

I already named two hip-hop songs I enjoy, Fudged. I enjoy a wide variety of music. I'm eclectic. I don't like welfare carols or ignorant garbage of any genre.

"I didn't call you arrogant nor stupid; I asked which one you were." is so quotable. And yes, I already modified it from the original quote. I'm very detail-oriented. wink All I have to say is LOL big_smile

" not liking hiphop usually means ur old and fat... "

Thank you for this ignorant statement. You're just plain wrong. But we do appreciate your sharing this statement because now we know how absolutely clueless you are. We know how limited your contact with the world is. We know how ignorant you are of this and how arrogant you are to presume you have a clue despite this. I'm not name calling, I'm just calling it like I see it.

The level of equivocation here is too much for me. tongue

You didn't prove anything, Gladiator. You offered evidence contrary to your proposed thesis.

"and some even give back to the community"

I'm not going to claim none of them are good people, but hip-hop artists, like most of the rich "giving back," it's a PR move. Most do it when they judge it to be good for their bottom line to do it. Like P-Diddy giving a few hundred grand to innter city youth then spending millions publicizing it. P-Diddy does not care about you or your family. Or anyone else's. It's just a fact.

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http://i35.tinypic.com/2ij0uae.jpg

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Looking at the original post, it seems that I actually agree with Justinian on something! Though not completely to the extent that he does.

"The true office of a friend is to side with you when you are wrong; the world will side with you when you are right."
"It is not just a friend's help that helps us, but the knowledge that they will unconditionally do so."

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Re: Hip-hop

so Whos everyones top 5 artist, and your top 5 songs?!

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Tupac
Jay Z
Kanye West
Dre
Nas
The Game
Eminem

i don't think i could choose 5 but you can bet your ass, most of my top 10 atleast would be tupac

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Lemme see my fav 5 ...

Tupac
Biggie
Eminem
Kanye West
Jadakiss

And me too i couldnt pick 5 songs off the top of my head, all those artist alone have atleast 5 songs that i know and love smile

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ughh biggie :S

buh i forgot to include, lupe fiasco, common smile

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nas guys smile

and best song ever is I'll be missing you - puff

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Common
Talib Kweli
Lupe Fiasco
Kanye West
Tupac



Respiration - Common, Talib Kweli, Mos Def

The World is Yours - Nas

Kick Push - Lupe Fiasco

I used to love H.E.R - Common

I wish - Skee Lo



That top 5 is soooo tricky though. Too many good songs to list sad

Sex without the e is still SX!

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kanye west is the man smile im gonna see him again in november in brussels smile anyone else coming? wink

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Cypress Hill Rules smile

AKA - War Child - War Path
This is War: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9xWXv_2-YQ
Killing Time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzekrcVe04Q
Rock & Rolla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZxMjWf1sQ

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Me and My Girlfriend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRzBzMI-pKg&feature=related

one of my favorite songs, you have to really understand the song ... once you do that your above average listener

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"May 06, 2006
Greatest Rap Lyrics - Part 1
Craig Mack's Flava in Ya Ear was one of those songs that just electrified the world. You listened to it, you couldn't believe it, you didn't know the title or the rapper but all you knew was you had to hear it again, and again. I think this is one of the last hiphop songs that had that effect on me although it's difficult to recall which may have been the absolute last.

Craig Mack
1000 degrees
You'll be on your knees
and you'll be burnin', beggin' please
Brother FREEZE! {BOY!...}
Man's indisputed
and deep-booted
funk smoke that leaves your brains booted
This bad M.C.
with stamina like Bruce Jenner
the winner
Tasting M.C.'s for dinner
You're crazy like that glue {...you're crazy, boy, You're crazy.}
to think that you
could out-do
my one-two
that's sick like the flu {...shake 'em down, Mack}
BOY, I flip
BOY all the time, 'cause
BOY, the rhyme you're kickin' {HAAAAAAAAA! BOY!...}
ain't worth a dime
Seems like there's no competition
in this rap world expedition
You come around,
I'll knock you out [of] position {... knock 'em out!}
No flav
could ever dig a grave
for the Mack
the power pack
in black
makin' cement crack {...make it crack...}

Every rap fan on the planet knows this rhythm now, but there is no way to rap this without having heard Craig Mack do it. This is the second stanza and it is nothing like the first or the third. It's just completely unique. The 'stamina like Bruce Jenner' moves at a completely different pace than 'youre crazy like that glue'. The phrasing can't even be called classic, it simply hasn't been duplicated. Now there is one possible exception to that which is 'Shake Ya Ass'  which also works in stanzas with refrains each stanza with unique phrasings. That too was massive breakout single, unique in every way.

Making a rap like this is extraordinarily complicated. It's something I think George Clinton thought he was doing on several occasions, breaking walls of beats per line with compression, or letting it go over into the next measure. Failed completely.

Not enough can be said about the complimentary responses {in braces} that the second voice adds to the rap. As far as I know, only Flavor Flav has done this consistently in his world-rocking duets with Chuck D, but this unknown rapper behind Craig Mack is a serious partner in making 'Flava in Ya Ear' one of the great lyrical triumphs of all time."
http://cobb.typepad.com/cobb/2006/05/greatest_rap_ly.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-MLp3l2fkA

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thanks for posting that yell, i love that song and really i listen to it about 2-3 times a week! definitely goes in my top 10 songs big_smile

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kanye's next album, i don't think i'm guna like it too much tongue
the beats'll prlly be nice but the lyrics are guna be GARBAGE tongue
i'm not really feeling his new song love lockdown either
the video's nice though-something different http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXUzuk_wd0k

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I don't doubt that the lyrics ahve their own craft, Yell, but many other songs of other genres have alot more to them in my opinion. This Hip-Hop stuff is all the same rubbish to me.

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Hip Hop it won't stop!

And no, other genres don't have more to it. Every genre is unique. You can't say which has more value and be factual. Music is strictly opionated.

Sex without the e is still SX!

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if you actually undertand the lyrics muppet, most hip-hop songs have one of the best, and most meaningfull lyrics, better than any other genre of music in my opinion
but you really have to understand the lyrics and listen in closer smile --and i'm not talking about rappers like 50 cent or Souljha boy
their lyrics are shit for the most part tongue

i'm talking about people like
Common
Lupe Fiasco
Tupac

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Re: Hip-hop

fiddy... i hate him

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"but you really have to understand the lyrics and listen in closer"

Oh wow, like you have to do in every genre. Avoid the crap and listen to the real lyrics, what's the point you're making? This makes Hip-Hop equal to the rest, not better.

I'll never know if it was worth the pain, but I still loved it more than anything in the world - it was my life.

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Just like Music!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt_mpyKlUs0

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1. Immortal Technique
2. Lil Wayne
3. The Game
4. Kanye West
5. Kardinal Offishall


That was hard tongue

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attacks ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain...

Time to die."

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That's if your classifying hip-hop as music. Which, I don't.
Hiphop artists just suceed in making themselves sound self-centered. If that's what you mean by meaningful lyrics, then fair enough. New-age: more meaning than many genres put together. I'm not seeing much talent in those hiphop lines to be honest. There is pop that is more meaningful, most rock is, alot of metal is too I think. And Gregorian Chant! And Modism, certainly blues as well, I think that the list goes on. I also find it very hard to listen to hiphop vocalists due to their voices. They just sound awful: boring, repetative and unoriginal.

A good point has been made though. The better artists of any genre generally aren't the most well known to fans of other genres. I know I'm biased, and it may well have alot to do with the fact that I haven't heard alot of what has been discussed.

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http://www14.alluc.org/alluc/showmovie.html?uid=679764

17:28 to  19:15 ^^ xD

till the end of time..

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the guy from top gear big_smile he's funny

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