LOL yeah i subscribed to them aswell
didn't bother subscribing to mccains, doubt they know how an e mail works
they're probably still figuring out how to type "@", i don't think emails work when it's  gladiator2hotmail.com

buh anyways, nah i'm not a volunteer, but i bet u they have volunteers on some of those other sites that actually get people you can convince

and yeah the spamming thing.. you gotta admit though, they give some nice deals, $15 for a shirt or a coffee mug , u coul use that shirt to wear underneath they cost atleast $25 now a days in stores hehe
you get some good deals
and another thing, like i said they don't ask for much, and then you feel like you can contribute, cuz $5 means preety much nothing to a lot of people and if everyone of them donate that much, that's a TON of money

Like McCain admitting that he did not know a whole lot about economics, ET?

> Golk wrote:

> I still think those debates influence the undecided.

Clearly undecided might have been taken aback by the charge on Palin after her interviews. The fact that almost all of the national press had headlines saying she did (at least) good enough helps to consider the McCain ticket on the same level as the Obama one, if you're undecided.

I mean she "won" credibility, so it's not all about losing on debates, and the aftermath of the debate in this case "helps" the campaign.

Well, according to the polls on both debates, Obama/Biden got higher approvals than McCain/Palin. If anything, according to the polls, Biden dominated Palin. She just got higher "better than expected" votes. Which means if anything, most of the country had a bad opinion and low expectation of her. All she did was not answer questions at a debate really. Most of the undecided americans were undecided because they actually know politics and realized that she didn't show anything at all about what she knows about politics. The only people who approved of her performance were republicans who didn't really trust her in the first place. Now they feel she can handle pressure.

My intent was not to say Palin won the debate. With a little bit of objectivity, it's clear she did not, as far as debates go. What she did is offer a good image.

Now, who won most out of this debate?

Biden who was supposed to win it from day one (and by the way did not win it like 'oh my god he's so much better')?
Or Palin who was looking like a clown on every major channel for days, and managed to erase most of that perception?

That is my point. All I'm defending, from the start, is Palin as a very clever political move by the McCain campaign.
I still think it's an incredible strategy and that Romney/Huckabee types would have been cannon fodder for 'more of the same' in the midst of the economic crisis, while Palin managed to completely change the public perception of the republican ticket.

well, what i found to be a lil sad in that debate was that both of them a million of times said things like:

biden: and john mckain voted 90% with bush
palin: blabla

next question

biden: need to say again... mckain voted 90% with bush
palin: ow the records show obama voted against it
biden: oh he did not... but did i mention mckain voted 90% with bush?

to me it appeared to be more a discrediting of the political opponent then an advertising of own politics and ideas.
after a while i got too bored of it and decided to fall asleep...

well it was a joke
but thanks for clearing that up BW

obama is guna win this shiznit expect mccain have some wild swings in desperation and most likely miss..

Palin reminded me of a child in a spelling competition.   Trained to remember how some "complex" word is spelled, yet at the same time remaining totally clueless as to what it really means.

The average life span for an American male is somewhere between 72 and 75 years old.   By the end of his first term, if Elected, McCain would be 76.    How can anyone honestly be comfortable with Palin gaining power if McCain happens to raise his arms too high and has a heart attack?

It's enough to make one lose faith in American Democracy entirely.

I honestly think if McCain died that Palin would be forced to resign from overwhelming political pressure from both parties.

... and you would see the nation at it's weakest moment yet.

The dream of our founding fathers is long dead.  Someone needs to hit the reset button.

please explain. I don't think she sounds anything like them at all. For starters, I have not heard too many interviews of hers to know how she sounds like. Which to me, puts her closer to being a communist.

> Elysian Thebes wrote:

> palin sounds much closer to the founding fathers than any of the other 3 on the tickets

but you'd have to actually know about the founding fathers to recognize that.

Wow!  What an empty assertion. 

Please back up your statements with evidence, not just hot air.

I already have a feeling what angle you're going to try and go for,  I just want to see if you actually are ignorant enough to say it

So come on,  back up your statement,  or maybe you aren't able?  Maybe you just thought it would sound good?

Just because you don't have much intelligence doesn't mean you should insult mine.     Especially when I'm more well versed on the subject then you.

I'm giving you a chance to back-up your statement though.  Come on.  Make a case for Sarah Palin being the closest thing to the founding fathers vision.

I honestly want to hear this