Topic: Vice-Presidential Debate: Palin vs Biden

Since this thread will be coming up at one point or another, I'll open it with a bookmaker approach.

=> So, mainstream media predictions first.

Palin

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=> Now, my own personal crystal ball.

I think they will avoid to fight one another mostly, Palin going at Obama and Biden at the republican party as a whole. Biden will make the small jokes, Palin the killer one-liners, no clear winner on issues as it is just more of what we heard already.

Palin

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Gwen Ifill..... "Left-Leaning"?????
ROFL.
She wrote a book that is to be released on INAUGURATION DAY, celebrating an OBAMA Presidency.
She is a host on PBS.

Give me a break.
She has a vested interest in OBAMA being President........her book royalties......
Imagine, how much she earns on her book if McCain is elected ??



Here is how I see it.

1.  The Media attacks Palin as incompetent, a babbler, and un prepared....... NO MATTER what.
2.  They then Attack McCain for picking her, what a dope he is.
3.  The Editorial pages of the newspapers, and mags.....rail Palin then McCain.....

It will be a full court press to rip both apart.....

No matter what happens.

Hell, You have McCain CLOBBER Obama.....litterally destroy him, and leave him with his pants around his ankles on Foreign Policy.
......Yet.....the Leftist call it a draw, and no harm to either candidate.



Just look at the moderator picked for this debate......enough said.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
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i think i have to agree with Golk for the most part

and BW if that's true.. GREAAATT - Obama08 for sure then big_smile

one thing though...i think palin will be stronger than what most people think, btw i was thinking maybe palin screwed up on courcic interview on purpose..so that expectations would be so low going in, she could call UK our enemy and get away with it(joke) tongue

anyways, i think she will really screw up on the foriegn policy, and biden just has to politely hint that she's stupid tongue
i don't care how many books you read, i don't care how many people prepare you or how good they are at their job, you can't learn in a month, actually more like 2 weeks,--in my personal opinion, this will show

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Is Palin allowed to speak her own opinon? =o

Sex without the e is still SX!

6 (edited by Justinian I 02-Oct-2008 05:55:38)

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If Palin spoke her own mind, she would sound like an idiot. So no, best to keep her quiet.

Actually, I have decided that the Republican party has been overrun by idiots and ideologues.

I'm voting for Acolyte.

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hope its more interesting than the presidential debate.....snoozefest

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It'd be well worth the watch if president bush or hillary clinton were moderating it big_smile


Minus well add to the idiot party!

Sex without the e is still SX!

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BW I disagree on the fact that the book issue is an issue.

1. If McCain wins, the democrat hangover will be so sore that a book like this might well sell way better than in a liberal lovefest - should Obama win.
2. She is not only a professional, but somebody with a paycheck that I would say need to be boosted by this book.
3. Thinking for one second that this escaped the McCain campaign before is again underestimating McCain strategists A LOT. They wanted the story to go out at the last moment, there must be a reason, either to really push her the other way or to make sure she would not be replaced after a month of controversy, for the sheer luxury of being able to get a good excuse.

Obama campaign should complain that she's a woman big_smile

Glad: "biden just has to politely hint that she's stupid" - he does that, politely or not, he's dead meat in my opinion.

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yep smile

Sex without the e is still SX!

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She mentioned the book on some show months back not about the Obama presidency. It's about the impact Obama's CAMPAIGN has had on the political landscape. That is her publishing house's description, not hers. 

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008810020357

There are other sources to get news from than FNC.

Praise Kek

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A black Liberal Woman......writing about the impact of OBAMA's Campaign.....to be released on INAUGARATION DAY.

Oh.  She has no vested interest.


What a Great book it would be.......A great campaign, by the looser of the campaign.....to be released on INAUGARATION DAY.
The day, the "Great Campaign" is ultimatley shown to be the failure it was........

If McCain wins.

Yea.  Great book...... should do well, IF McCain wins.


No.  She has no vested interest.
No.  She is not a died in the wool liberal, on PBS
No.  She is NOT an OBAMA supporter.

Yes......She is the BEST choice for Moderator of a DEBATE, that can impact her vested interest in her book sales, and her candidate of choice.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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Dude, it's a cultural thing. Take the politics out of it and just look at it for what it is; an African American woman writing a book about the impact of African Americans in politics. Politics is merely a side note. She would have written the book even if Obama had lost to Hillary for the pure and simple fact that an African American went further in the primaries than ever before.

Praise Kek

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Yeah, that would sell big with blacks no matter who won.

A book about the impact ofa winning candidate once he wins is gonna sell with lots more people.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Ok, I think the issue here is for now to try and imagine how this CAN influence the debate, not to consider she screw it before it happened...

I still think the book's not an issue, but consider her severly biaised like any liberal journalist, and as stated think she will do everything to go to the detail for both candidate, as cornering Palin specifically became some kind of national entertainment.

16 (edited by Genesis 02-Oct-2008 18:02:40)

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"Hell, You have McCain CLOBBER Obama.....litterally destroy him, and leave him with his pants around his ankles on Foreign Policy."

lol at BW. Was there another debate that I didn't see, cause the one they had was a waste of my time and I felt like they clobbered me with general numbness. If one of them had an upper hand I probably wouldn't have almost fallen asleep.

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@ Genisis....I fell asleep the first 30 min, but I woke up for the last hour.  wink


@ Golk.

No,  Its not an issue.

How about LIEING to the Debate moderator committee, and NOT disclosing that she had written a book about one of the presidential Candidates.....to be released on INAUGURATION DAY !!!

Is that a violation of ethics ??

Yes.  It is.




How about this.

The Judge in the OJ Simpson Trial:

writes a book titled:  " The Cultural Connection between Professional Athletes, and Crime in America"
The Main focus of the book ??  OJ Simpson.


Well, the book is not an issue......correct ?
So what the judge wrote a book.
Its his Passion.   He likes to write about Athletes....hell, he was a collegiate athlete himself.....no big deal.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

18 (edited by Gladiator 02-Oct-2008 21:22:41)

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"A black Liberal Woman"
oh yes cuz blacks have to vote for blacks right, or they suffer an allergy?

you finally showed it AGAIN BW, showed that your small minded thinking can not be taken seriously and is not even close to the non-partisan judgement you claim to have

and you better not say i can not, be bi-partisan either, i have admitted that a lot of the times, but atleast i'm trying now..


BTW i have to say
mccain campaign really did a great job before the debate to help their chances and the so called "liberal" media fell for it
the expectations for Palin are SOO LOW, SOO LOW, she's guna do GREAT, she really is
you heard it here first folks, Biden can't win this one and he doesn't need to(going back to my view that you most likely can't win, you can loose)
however i think palin can win this, she needs to beat the odds, and she will, the odds are too low
BUT, this debate is barely guna effect the election
people who aren't guna vote for palin won't after the debate, people who were guna, will still vote for her(unless she messes up big time-possible-not likely- unless she's really feeling the pressure)

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@ Gladiator.
Blacks have to vote for blacks ???

No, they dont.  But, the African American community votes for a Black Democrat at a 92% clip.
So, I would say that is significant coorelation that she is black, and liberal...... 

Bi-Partisan ??  Did you notice my postscript ??  Im right.  wink


The Media will rip her apart tonight.

Lets make a deal Glad.....  Do you get Fox news ?
I will watch CNN and report.....you watch FOX.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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I'm a bit sad people don't take much risks on a forecast of the match to come sad

Come on! And Glad, the fact that you can mostly lose in such a debate is... kind of old old news. Like before Television (though not the Biden TV History).

Shoot! Two hours to go tongue

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alright BW, i'll watch Fox
you watch CNN, i'd prefer MSNBC actually, they're more liberal smile

"But, the African American community votes for a Black Democrat at a 92% clip"
oh sure...the face that they are democrats and the candidate they support is a democrat, has nothing to do with it

i'll take it you're voting for a white man because you're white?

22 (edited by Theodora 03-Oct-2008 02:17:46)

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Biden looks better thus far. He seems much more comfortable and is very fact-oriented. Palin looks like she doesn't belong. Very stiff and uncomfortable. A tad too general and unfocused at times.

To serve is to survive

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I love Biden's teeth. Man I wished I had teeth like those.

To serve is to survive

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Mmh don't agree Theo, Palin is quite effective and focused.

May have launched her "I'll answer how I want" a bit early, though.

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Palin needs to stop avoiding answering questions.

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