yell you really, didn't get the point of the video... did you?

niether

McCain and his war hunger
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

> Gladiator wrote:

> niether

McCain and his war hunger
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

You did hear the thing from Obama during the debate about launching air strikes into Pakistan to take down Al Qaeda with or without Pakistan's approval, right? 

@Avo
I still think economic fear plays in McCain's favor, hence the move to stop his campaign in an attempt to look more reliable in times of crisis.
While hope that the system could be changed is what favours Obama, hence his constant message for change and better tomorrows.
Sure you can see it both ways, but I think that what they each try to push probably best explains my stand. Basically, Obama's campaign is playing with people's hopes while McCain's campaign is playing with people's fear, which are common left against right tactics.

LOL that's funny

but Golk, i have to diss-agree with your statement that the economic situation plays in mccain's favor
you couldn't be more wrong on that
mccain's very very uncomfy on the economic issue
and the obama campaign have been blessed with a lot of great quotes directly from mccain, his top advisors and his campaign
not to mension a republican president who can be easily associated with mccain and can be easily blamed for this problem
and that's all not to mention that mccain has flip-flopped on his regulation stand,
topped off by statistics that people usually lean towards democrats in economic situations such as this one
and while mentioning all this i forget that, mccain can and is being portrayed as the guy who only cares about wall street
while obama cares about main street, and that can play GREATLY into obama's hands..

Glad, that was directed to Avo's comment on fear and hope. Economic fear is good for the old veteran "I'm gonna smack some heads", economic hope is good for the younger lad "I bring judgement and change".

Basically, John McCain going to Washington like Stallone on a VC position played for him shortly, and after a lack of immediate quantifiable result and the good use of that stunt by the liberal media, people got back to the "we're in such a mess we need real change" stance, since the VC did not annihilate them.

House Republicans should come out Monday morning, say "We tried, we tried so hard to avoid an irresponsible bailout, but we failed.  This is a rape of the American taxpayer and socialism.  We call on each member to vote thier conscience" and walk away, refuse to deal with Democrats as a group.

Let the Democrats bitch and moan that they have to govern the country wtihout Republican cover.  They can pass whatever on party-line votes.  And THAT is putting the country first, refusing to cooperate with the thieves.

Yell ye really have no shame.  Congress had a republican majority fer th' most part o' an either year republican white house, an' ye're tryin' t' blame DEMOCRATS fer th' mess America is in?

I know ye're really not that stupid.

Right now they're tryin' allow ye t' have credit.  Is that bad?

Pull the other one!

There's plenty of private capital otu there.  That is the source of Paulson's $700 billion, bond sales to the private sector.  And theres something like 6000 banks and credit unions in the USA.  What is not gonna happen is none of them make loans and nobody moves their $$$$ into solvent banks.  What is gonna happen is that banks with too much crappy loans will get bypassed as capital moves around them.

Credit is out there, it just costs more!

Do you think the government is going to allow its partners to lose money?
How about, get prosecuted for fraud?
What about treaties that don't make as much money for government's partners?
Do you know how Congress chooses chairman? It's based on who raises the most money.

Tax cuts are not pork.

it's 400 pages because its a rider to an existing mental healthcare bill (itself stupid)
it's a rider to an existing bill the House passed because the Senate can't originate fiscal legislation, I found out that's how they force the House to accept it on constitutional grounds