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to really test it you would have to take at least 2 rounds.
1 going by text book (generally after 30+ rounds of the text book ones work best at this point)
and another going by your strat. to accurately test it you would need the exact same resources, exact same planet sizes, etc. and so forth to see which gives you a better outcome.
or you could take a few hours, do some calculating, and not waste a round testing out shitty strats
you can do it in one round, if you consider your variables to the theory.
no you can't. you always need a control or comparison in a test/experiment. goodness sakes, you're stupid.
if you are just considering your variables and the theory, just take your variables and do your calculations without wasting a round
otherwize, no you cant prove a strat works without something to directly compare it to
if i was stupid it wouldn't be so much easier for me to do, that it is for you i guess 
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things like this are easy for me, because it was my job at one time to profile peoples attack strategies and counter them.
and testing them one round, and then using them from then on, i think fulfils you desire to retest again, but they have worked every time since as well... so i guess i was right the first time.
and before you get all slap happy and strange on me .... YES some have failed, and i never tried them again.
I've looked over your start BC, and there's nothing special what so ever about them. Actually a dead monkey can come up with a better strat then then those two.
For pop banking you want to build 100% lq's of your first 20 planets, the sooner the better. Build your base pop up, and you can approximately build up around 2.5mil +/- pop. By the time your pop is filled up, ob to 300% ob with to's and you should be making anywhere from 800-900k within the first couple days of the round. continue from there. Roughly the Einstein strat, there's a lot of variables to counter in, and you most certainly need support in doing so.
for CF banking, 20% RC's 70%-ish CF's 3-5% Hyrdo's 5-7% Lasers. 100% econ, or 60/40 econ/con, personal choice. Hydro's allow you to not require anyone to send you food all the time. Fairly self sufficient and you produce plenty of coin.
If you are going to post a strategy BC, how about you make sure they actually work and don't look like they've been made by Nolio.
Cougar you couldn't pull of any of your silly strats in your own fam.. Now you try to convince everyone inhere.. alriiiiiight 
you've got my attention
Insignificant...
So 4 conclusions:
When you reach 700% OB and higher you carry more then 80 Lazers on each planet? That is kinda stupid and a waste of cash...
Second, why would you build yourself farms? As you can gain over 24 Gc a building with just the right ratio...
Why would you build 20 % of RC's? Having 99% construction is never ideal...
Why would you want to research Construction, as your goal is to make cash for the round. So you will miss out a number of %'s of income every tick. when with construction you only save out cash + rec. less frequent....
Well during war times, having say 25% con bonus when producing unit comes in quite handy, as that's 25% more units you can produce, and as I said it was a personal choice; i prefer 100% econ myself, that's why it came first.
If your family doesn't produce enough food, doesn't pass food off to you, or you go inactive for a while, then you're secure in the fact that you never starve.
and quit taking building percentages literally... of course when you reach a certain point your going to be portalled and stop building lasers. that's an implicit part of the strategy, as anyone should know that.
dont waste space on your planets building rc's when banking unless you are going cf/rc
dont waste space on your planets building farms when banking unless you're a n00b, better off buying food
if your going to make fun of sum1's strat, make sure you know what you're talking about first
why waste money on food. Isn't your purpose as a banker to make it, instead of wasting it on the market?
a few farms won't affect your income in any significant manner. Do the math, it actually pays to have some farms with cf banking.
Insignificant does have a point, It doesnt hurt too much to have 3-5% HFs for a CF/TO banker, if yr fam is not too well organised /there is any risk you might starve then it is definitely a good idea.
Why do so many people always say "do the maths" without actually doing it X(
ALright I did it
Assume: 200 Planets, 500% OB, Pop 1.76M, Eco reseach 70%
With 80% CFs, 20%TOs : Gross Income is 6.24M
With 75% CFs, 20%TOs, 5% HFs : Gross Icome is 5.86M
Difference is 377k
works out at food price of 0.21, E.g if food is less than .21 its cheaper to buy it
So its not a bad idea to have enough HFs to cover yourself.
the fact that.... it is well known to start with CF's, everyone does it, for one reason... because if they don't then the whole family waits 15 ticks to get anything going.
and another thing, if you build your TO's early, then you get the bonus as soon as they build, and don't have to wait for pop to come to get it, and then build welfare and economy, 75% welfare and 25% economy, and that should keep you with building room for pop till it is time to build LQ's.
if done right then you will get the max amount of money without being a target till you are able to defend yourself from attacks, or banker raids.
there is a reason for the toggle button, it allows you to build on multiple planets for the reason of clicking the planets that need TO's, lasers, or portals, all at once.
ITT: trolls and bad strategies
as i said before i don't care what anyone else thinks, i was only humoring to try to get others to understand it.
if you dont want to, i am not going to force feed it to you.
any other strats that someone has a question about.
Cougar - it's not that we/they don't understand.
If you were right, you would have won some rounds, don't you think?
Fact is, zidi and I have won an MW round by NW with 6 people in a family (meaning our economy had to compete with families of 15). And I was a wardancer, I might add, lol.
I've finished top 10 by NW in MW with 2 people in a family. And I was a wardancer.
And another 10 or so between us with actually families.
If what you say is the best, was the best - you'd win and others would copy you.
But you don't. We have, and (I might add) still do. Meaning somewhere, our efficiency and income are stronger than yours... no?
People aren't just attacking you here - they're trying to make you better
If you'd like, you run your strats, my family will run my strats, we'll compare once or twice a week to see how each other are doing, and see what happens - only if you're interested though...
Don't bother.. His fam won't use his strats 
right cougiee??? djeez i'm drunk hmm [The fmods owned me before I even knew it!]
Why buy food or make it as a banker? shouldn't your attacker be feeding you?
~ Cloud
As pop banker you should always start out cf, going straight lq from the start hurts your fam. It not all about getting your pop skyrocketing within the first few days, as if you do achieve that i gurantee the guy going cf will be making more than u and will be dictating your attackers move on the map in which position will be limited due to the fact the other guy setup faster.
Your first 20 planets should be straight cfs, infact i dont go by planets i say once your income reaches 60-80k you should to cf/rc and switch science to 100% econ till it goes over 60% than go 60/40 econ/con while funding science 3-4 ticks of income a day.
Once income reaches around 400k is my ideal time for my banker to switch to lq/to and it's usually done by a jump that was scheduled since the sooner you might the switch the better and smoother things will be. 70/30 lq/to and funding science from that point on out.
~ Cloud
> Dubber wrote:
> Hord or (Horde), is when someone keeps something to themselves, they hord it, ie. BC Cougar horded all his strats by not sharing them but he has now decided too.
*hoard
I <3 Tia!
most people do better with their own strategy because they understand it easier than someone elses
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