Topic: John McCain warned EVERYONE (Obama didn't have a clue?)

John McCain was warning everyone about the status of Fannie and Freddie several years ago already and the economy isn't even his self proclaimed strong suit. What did Obama do in the mean time?

http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r109:S25MY6-0016:

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German chancellor Schroeder on 2004 G7 summit allready said something needs to be done at the financial market.. something is wrong there and may turn out to be horribly wrong.
on 2007 G7 summit chancellor Merkel made a plan for more transparency and regulations at the finance market.. when it came to terms to do anything about it US goverment said "nope.. we wont do".

this was forseeable for a while.
many people had been blind.. not only obama..

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They paid their money...they knew what they were getting into...I say, let'em crash!

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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okay see this thread is about the two presidential candidates for the USA, one of which is extremely hyped as economically competent

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LOL

if it wasn't for his beliefs, the one he's flip flopping on now BTW..we wouldn't be in this mess anyways

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Penguin, I agree that people need to be held accountable. Unfortunately many people will lose their homes (what did they think would happen when they took loans out they couldn't pay. In order to recover, we need to do something to restore faith in the credit system.

7 (edited by Little Paul 25-Sep-2008 15:32:54)

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welcome back blade, pirate day is only once a month now.:) Still, you can sign the petition against pirateday in general, just in case.

8 (edited by Theodora 25-Sep-2008 17:57:40)

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"Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were ``illusions deliberately and systematically created'' by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal."




Yeah...John McCain warned everyone alright. It was all him. It had absolutely nothing to do with FANNIE MAE'S REGULATOR REPORTING THAT THE COMPANY'S QUARTERLY REPORTS OF PROFIT GROWTH OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WERE "ILLUSIONS DELIBERATELY AND SYSTEMATICALLY CREATED" BY THE COMPANY'S SENIOR MANAGEMENT, WHICH RESULTED IN A $10.6 BILLION ACCOUNTING SCANDAL (etc.).



But no...you're right. It was all McCain. He didn't just read reports.

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how do you expect people to get information if it isnt through reports, theo, a crystal ball? wow

10 (edited by Vampire Ninja Penguin 25-Sep-2008 20:12:25)

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he didn't warn me. no phone calls, no letters, nothing. ergo, the topic is [road apples]

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Well, if the topic were to be true and Barack Obama didn't know, then it'd be McCain's fault for not warning him. Bad McSame, bad.

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he warned us all with the Senior Emergency Broadcast System

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not his fault we all tune that out

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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i agree with what bill clinton said this morning on GMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE

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there is nothing wrong on the economical markets worldwide. this is just Capitalism at its best.

Communism ftw!

15 (edited by Theodora 26-Sep-2008 00:02:08)

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@avogadro

I have four fingers and a thumb on my left hand. I got that information, not through a report, but by using a miniscule part of the intellectual capabilities G-d has seen fit to give me.

When I hire a private eye to get the dirt on people I'm interested in, he doesn't sit back in his office and read reports from pieces of paper. He goes out and figures it out for himself. He tails them, steals their mail, speaks to ex-lovers etc.

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16 (edited by avogadro 26-Sep-2008 02:46:34)

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you know you have four fingers and a thumb on your left because you were taught you did when you were a little kid, dont pretend you figured that out all by yourself smile

well theo, you're a dumbass if you want your politicians to see everything firsthand and not rely on other people's reports at all. a president isnt going to be in person doing a reconnaissance mission in Iran, he's going to be reading a report.

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u really learned u have 5 fingers?
i learned how to count and the rest came by itself.

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o.O

/me holds up his left hand

yikes. It's true!!!!

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

19 (edited by avogadro 26-Sep-2008 05:22:52)

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schniepel, she said she figured out she had 4 fingers and a thumb. somehow i doubt she was able to reason to her thumb not counting as a finger especially when she was little. and even if she reasoned to her thumb not being a finger, she wouldnt of actually known until someone confirmed the idea for her.

who keeps adding and subtracting tag points from me? am i really humoring/pissing off that many mods?

20 (edited by Theodora 26-Sep-2008 06:07:01)

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@Avogadro

Watch the insults. smile


That's the second time tonight you've misunderstood me. I hope you're not doing it purposefully smile


Anyhoo, I'll clarify this one for you.

My problem isn't with politicians using reports. It's with politicians taking credit unto themselves for parroting what's in those reports. tongue Or in this particular case, East crediting a politician for being the one to warn everyone, as well as implying that it was John McCain and John McCain alone who warned everyone, when really, it's the poor people who crunched the numbers, analyzed the situation and wrote the reports that should be given credit.



Most politicians aren't experts on various topics. But at one time or another, most of them claim to have come up with a solution or to have realized something drastic is going to happen if something isn't fixed...when really, they're just taking the ideas/plans/analysis  from someone else and claiming it as their own. It's aggravating...and immoral.

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21 (edited by avogadro 26-Sep-2008 06:20:14)

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nah theo, i knew thats what you meant. but was having some fun with you. the problem is what you think and what you think you say you think are often different, and to debate it i cant tell you what you think, you have to state what you think and if insults werent allowed on the forums, no one would be here.

he in no way implied that McCain was the only person to warn anyone. he implied that he was the only politician in washington to warn people, and whether thats true or not i dont know/care.

and while you may find that last paragraph true, that is in no means what McCain is doing, it simply could be interpreted as what east is doing.

i dont think anyone here got the impression that McCain studied all the books and figured out a discrepancy and was the sole whistle blower. the fact that the first line gives credit to someone else boggles my mind on how you got the impression he was implying that McCain did it himself.

22 (edited by Theodora 26-Sep-2008 06:31:50)

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I said exactly what I meant to say. People may genuinely misinterpret it, but only because they're silly and see in shades of Black and White.

The first line of the link does smile Not the first line of East's post...or any line for that matter. big_smile

You know a lot of people only read the headlines or the titles big_smile First impressions are important!



And I said it was East. X(

"Or in this particular case, East crediting a politician for being the one to warn everyone, as well as implying that it was John McCain and John McCain alone who warned everyone, when really, it's the poor people who crunched the numbers, analyzed the situation and wrote the reports that should be given credit."

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You'd think that if McCain warned everyone, he'd have a solution already =p

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He did, but he forgot where he put it. sad

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Re: John McCain warned EVERYONE (Obama didn't have a clue?)

He might've had his wife email it to him. That would explain why he can't get it =p

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