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Sen. John McCain told a crowd of supporters on Sunday, "It's a tough war we're in. It's not going to be over right away. There's going to be other wars." Offering more of his increasingly bleak "straight talk," he repeated the claim: "I'm sorry to tell you, there's going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars."

"And right now - we're gonna have a lot of PTSD [post traumatic stress disorder] to treat, my friends," he said. "We're gonna have a lot of combat wounds that have to do with these terrible explosive IEDs that inflict such severe wounds. And my friends, it's gonna be tough, we're gonna have a lot to do."

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/27/mccain-warns-there-will_n_83459.html

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Q: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years

I'd support more parties if i were him, too.. since the Nader votes tend to come from the democrat voters

im not sure how new this ad is, but while driving this morning i had the radio on and there was a Obama political ad and it flat out lied. it said McCain is against stem cell research; but in reality he isnt against adult stem cell research.

yell you talking to nolio about the quote? i don't think i pasted a quote here yet...

avo, are you sure they weren't saying palin is against it?
can u link me the ad please?

yell, i'll get back to you on that social security ad by obama, but i recall someone saying McCain voted to cut the benefits, or sum like that, don't remember, i'll try to get u a website or something atleast..

well, it was a radio ad i heard while in my car, so i dont have a internet link to it readily available, do you know anywhere that has a list of political ads or anything i could sift through? I'm 100% sure it said McCain.

Right Nolio, so he was NOT calling for a 100 year war.

"The charge results from comments McCain made at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire in January. After a questioner told McCain that President Bush has talked about staying in Iraq for 50 years, McCain said, "make it a hundred."

He continued: "We've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That would be fine with me, as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed."

Here's the video:

McCain appears to be talking about maintaining a presence in Iraq, not continuing the type of war America is now fighting. He suggests it would be acceptable to "maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world" similar to that in Japan and Korea.

The nonpartisan Annenberg Political Fact Check calls the DNC's suggestion, based on these comments, that McCain has called for an "endless war" in Iraq a "rank falsehood."
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/01/politics/horserace/entry3985914.shtml

We're a FEDERAL system.   Can states pay for a war?  No.  So if the war is too expensive then state budgets can start picking up the slack for shared responsibility.

I would not pay one cent to a person to keep them from being a crook.

And I borrowed my way through school and had a part-time job, and so can you.

you do understand the rates, of universities now right?
i'm so thankful for the OSAP program here, i qualified for a scolarship, but that uni was way too far away, almost all students here rely on the OSAP loan program... i have a part time job aswell, that's BARELY ..BARELY enough to keep me full and have clothes, and a decent shared apartment...

i don't know what time you were in uni, but costs of living and studies and texbooks alone are WAY WAY higher than what they used to be

BTW on osama bin laden and the conspiracy thing, who wants to bet with me that there will be a laden video launched, just a bit before the election?

o..i forgot gas

yeah gas, compare it to a couple of years ago, and my bets are also on yell being in uni a long time ago
btw, i had to sell my car cuz of the fliping gas prices
i think i might be willing to get a civic ..even though they're expensive, the gas savings are worth it

Um when I went thru I borrowed 100% tuition. And incidentals made me pick colleges close to home. And its a 30 yr pyment plan so whats your bitch, the world owe you a living? And what do you care if its state or federal aid?

If he only woulda picked clinton as his running mate then could have voted for him but now I have to vote for McCain now because I think Palin would be great as a president once McCain has to go. I mean what country wouldnt do well with a president that can feild dress a moose? Plus  she's a hotty

Still not really relevant in this day and age.

There are tons of college graduates who are graduating and finding jobs that aren't in their field because of the declining job market. They are paying an average of 100k dollars to earn a bachelor's degree and are obtaining jobs that require as little as an associate's degree. This in turn creates a lower salary, a paycheck to paycheck situation and debt. (Look it up, the stats are there)

The majority of americans who are in debt are in debt due to student loans and/or credit cards.

A student coming out of a poor family cannot afford to go to college without some sort of government help nowadays. Scholarship funding is competitive to the point where it's impossible to get one unless you are exceptionally bright/athletic/lucky.

Part time jobs in college cause conflicts with school class times for a full time student and generally pay minimum wage or just above. Add that with the rising costs of living and you pretty much make less than what you spend.

If you borrow, you need to be fortunate enough to be able to secure a job in your field that is able to thrive in the economy and be able to have an affordable housing situation so that you can work to pay down the tens of thousands of dollars of debt you've accumulated in addition to your monthly bills.

This discussion however is leading to something off the topic. The point is, War doesn't benefit the economy at all. It's just like IC. What family in the history of IC has been in war all round and still managed to be #1 in economy? Spending millions of gc and iron on fleet and agents and wizzies doesn't help infra jumps