Topic: The comparison thread!

Ok this is a step by step comparison of all 4 major personages in the US election. Names are repeated in alphabetical order. Scores of 1 to 10 out of 10 exist for each category.


1) Executive/leadership experience:

Biden: As leader of several Congressional Committee's is his only true leadership example. Therefore I rate him a 1/10

McCain: As air force pilot and Air Wing commander he has a lot of experience managing others, making executive decisions, and even life and death type decisions. I therefore rate him a 9/10.

Obama: The only experience I can find is as a community organizer. In this role he had to have some leadership functions, with his co-chairing with Ayers... So I rate his experience a 2/10

Palin: As a Small Town Mayor, then as Governor, she has some credible experience as a leader. This is on the small scale, and large scale, as the town required few life and death decisions, but more routine decisions, but a governor requires more life and death, and major decisions, rather than routine decisions. Therefore I rate her a 7/10


Fighting Corruption:

Biden: http://php.delawareonline.com/state/requests.php?recipient=&legislator=Biden&description=
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082302200.html
Nearly says it all... really... but then he also voted against ending earmarks... 1/10

McCain: McCain has been one who has nonstop tried his hardest to fight corruption and earmarks, his efforts have resulted in several laws to try to fight the problem, sadly sometimes just moving the corruption to a different venue, but he has tried in full earnest to end the corruption. Rated 10/10

Obama: Obama has no significant history of fighting corruption or anything related to corruption. In fact there are several close associations with corrupt individuals which shows a potential for him to be influenced to assist their corruption. For instance Rezko, Ndi Okereke-Onyiuke, and the people at Acorn. Additionally Obama has, in 2 years, requested $740 million dollars in earmarks, netting $220 million. Rated 1/10

Palin: So far her history has been to sack a Republican Governor to take his place, due to his corruption, to fight her own party and get several members indicted on corruption, to reveal major issues in her State, as well as to be open as can be. One conspiracy thing is following her, the firing of her brother-in-law who was a police officer under her government, but he had admitted to doing things that would get an officer fired in any event anyhow... but due to the issue I rate her a 9/10



Number of Convicted super felons each does not associate with:

Biden: Well I cannot find anything tying him with any ~convicted~ persons, but his brother and son are up on charges right now for majorly frauding in investing. 10/10

McCain: McCain does not hang out with any known criminals. Do not try to say that false line you want to say about you know who either. 10/10

Obama: Ayers is the first. He was the first to successfully bomb the Pentagon. The last to bomb it? Osama. His land deal with Rezko is a solid tie. How unfortunate Rezko's land is only accessible behind Obama's and that it has never been built, and gets mowed by Obama's mowing service. Additionally Hamas and Obama have a somewhat close relationship which few understand in full. Mazen Asbahi his "Muslim Outreach Coordinator" is thought by the U.S. Department of Justice to be involved in racketeering and fundraising for the Palestinian terror organization Hamas. 1/10

Palin: The only criminal she was involved with was her brother-in-law who was a State police officer, she was not willingly cooperating with him, and is supposed to have gotten him fired faster than the process was going to be. In other words no cooperation here! 10/10




Cross Party Cooperation

Biden: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121953550915266671.html?mod=googlenews_wsj 1/10

McCain: He has a repuation for this exceeding all other persons in the United States, nuff said: 10/10

Obama: Only once did he even try, then he pulled out... ironically this was with... drumroll... McCain. 1/10

Palin: Well to be frank her 'party crossing' is in her sacking of a Republican Governor and then trashing other corrupt Republicans and working with the few Democrats in the area to get the corrupt ones out. In this venue she is only known for that. 2/10



Legislation voted on (or in) record:

Biden: http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/joe_biden.htm
VERY ACTIVE!!! 10/10

McCain: Ah geez I think he has propose 1/4 of the proposed things in the Senate.. probably not, but his record is beyond reproach here. 10/10

Obama: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html
His lack of actually making a decision on issues is well documented and well known. 1/10

Palin: She, in her governorship and mayor time has passed many things into law, and has a record for not ignoring issues. 10/10





And there we go.

Obama is by far the worst of the 4 personalities. Biden is next, and well... that says a lot about their ticket.



Btw for those who will try to ignore Ayers. Bush and the Saudi Family! Oh now your emotions are up, and you will still try to deny it. Shut it.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: The comparison thread!

...interesting.

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me tongue
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3 (edited by Gladiator 06-Sep-2008 20:08:15)

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Lol!




"And there we go.

Obama is by far the worst of the 4 personalities. Biden is next, and well... that says a lot about their ticket."



says Einstein.

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hmmm...

what does Gladiator Say ??

Looks pretty accurate to me.

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Piss and moan all you want flint, Obama's your next president. smile

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Flint, that was such a wonderfully balanced and non-biased piece... wow...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

7 (edited by Gladiator 07-Sep-2008 03:26:04)

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i says, nothing


cuz if i did, i know it would be biased towards obama tongue

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And yet he cannot make one like this in this thread cause he knows it is true.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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Without actually reading the reasons why you gave your score i could predict obama scoring only 1/ 10 or 2/10 all the time and that McCain would have 9 or 10 out of 10 on all of the fields

What a load of croc

What do I have to work with?

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So cynical TU. Surely you should know that Flint is the most objective of people in everything he says and does. I expect the scoring system, scoring criteria and judgment of Flint to exactly match reality and I would in no way suggest that the scores or general conclusions of the analysis to be in pre determined.

tweehonderd graden, dat is waarom ze me mr. fahrenheit noemen, ik reis aan de snelheid van het licht, ik ga een supersonische man van u maken

11 (edited by Lucifuge 07-Sep-2008 14:06:41)

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who's flint?

as for the topic at hand, i sincerely support the choice of a 70 year old man to look after the interests of the american people who for the major part are under 40.

seriously now. mccain's place is in an old people's home in florida, not white house. in florida, he could learn to knit wonderful patterns into wool socks, or perhaps even sew little leather pockets. his relatives would visit him once a year and bring him chocolate. nurses would give him his medication each day and they'd carefully look after his hygiene after he has visited the toilet with relative success.. it would be heaven on earth for someone like him.

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The one that goes by the name of Einstein... ironically

What do I have to work with?

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Funny.

Obama will loose the General Election.

McCain will be the next president.
Im not happy about that.  But, for sure that is better than Obama.


Polls on Tuesday will have McCain ahead, by about 4 pts.
Look ONLY at Zogby or Rasmussen.   Any other polls are just bullshit.
Tues. I will post the polls.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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> You_Fool wrote:

> Flint, that was such a wonderfully balanced and non-biased piece... wow...
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Odd, eh?

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me tongue
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.

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> Gladiator wrote:

> i says, nothing


cuz if i did, i know it would be biased towards obama tongue
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At least you're honest. tongue

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me tongue
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.

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> Black_Wing wrote:

> Funny.

Obama will loose the General Election.

McCain will be the next president.
Im not happy about that.  But, for sure that is better than Obama.


Polls on Tuesday will have McCain ahead, by about 4 pts.
Look ONLY at Zogby or Rasmussen.   Any other polls are just bullshit.
Tues. I will post the polls.
__________________________
I don't trust Obama or Biden or McCain.
I do trust Palin (more or less).

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me tongue
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.

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>>Look ONLY at Zogby or Rasmussen.   Any other polls are just bullshit.<<

because they are the ones which say what you want them to say?

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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Well, I do not trust media sites where they have a poll on their website.  It only attracts particular viewers.  I prefer Gallup.

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Agreed.

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me tongue
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.