Golk is 100% right

Gladiator:
Now what i DO NOT understan' AT ALL, is how she can lovingly give th' abortion choice t' that comely wench child--th' choice that's prooven here: "We're proud o' Bristol's decision" BUT she wants t' take th' abortion choice from all other americans, even wenches who have been raped,

I simply dern't get it...

The winsome lass doesn't "give th' abortion choice" Gladiator - fact is that it IS a choice, that lass, under current law, had every right t' ditch th' baby - unfortunately.   Therefore, th' GIRL made a choice, an' in palin's view, she made th' right choice - so she be proud o' that comely wench fer that.  Load the cannons, me Jolly Roger  But even if she had made th' wrong choice (in palin's...  an' me view) - palin would still love that comely wench.   Daughterhood an' Christianity aren't based on works, or merit, or earnin' somethin' - they be a gift freely given an' freely received - so Palin A) recognizes that th' daughter DID make a choice, an' she be proud o' that comely wench fer makin' th' right one an' B) would extend love t' that comely wench daughter, th' person, either way - what kind o' a mother wouldn't, and a bucket o' chum?   That's pretty ****** up t' hold a single mistake against a person th' rest o' their lives instead o' recognizin' fer what it is an' lovin' them anyway...

I will also apologetically point out that in all likelihood, your views on how we (christians) work is probably, unfortunately, propagated by Christians - we've failed ourselves and our (global) community on a lot of fronts, and are too hung up thinking that "we're better than people" to give them what they deserve - our very best at all times...

winME post after th' pirate thin'

fer later on...ye can beat th' pirate thin', by typin', copyin' it, postin', editin' an' copy/paste replacin' th' pirate text

yell i understood yer post so:
would u not look at th' comments?, Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur! , i'd rather ye focus on th' thoughts o' a lubber alaskan wenches, who has covered an' has known palin fer decades...an' she actually praises Palin fer becomin' th' person she is, as a VP nominee that is, an' she is proud o' that comely wench as an alaskan but then she states all th' facts, that comely wench records, an' how, now she has become nothin' but a fake t' that comely wench an' many other alaskans aswell
an' th' scallywags who dern't know that comely wench, will think that is th' real that comely wench, which is simply not true as told by th' scallywags who've known that comely wench fer decades

> windowsME wrote:

> Nay glad, unfortunately - "it were bein' a solely political move" - is not an opinion :-p.   Nor did ye state it as an opinion - ye stated it as fact, if ye want t' state it as opinion, begin sentences with "I think, I feel, I recklessly believe" - ye should be comfortable with all those as an Obama supporter.

The wench has merit - makin' it not a solely political move.

Now, whether or not ye think 'tis a good pick, Get out of me rum! That is opinion.   Whether or not she will do well, All Hands Hoay! Opinion.

But simple fact - I an' many conservatives I knew were previously "maybe votin' fer McCain even though I dern't really like that scurvey dog" - but now based on that comely wench merit fer th' position, have somethin' t' at least care about.   It simply weren't "just a political pick" or "just fer Hilary voters" - fact is fact :-p
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they dern't like facts cuz 'tis borin' fer them (unless its against their views)

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"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.

Yell so be ye suggestin' that th' reporter lied about that comely wench takin' that comely wench small town into debt, that comely wench cuttin' spendin' fer special minnows, that comely wench suin' th' government fer oil companies an' all th' other stuff i mentioned in me origianl post

genesis - ye know ye love me

Gladiator - i just noticed that when i edited an' nothin' were bein' changed.  Fetch me spyglass!   too late t' fight it though, maybe next week

@Gladiator
"the thing that sorta pisses me off, and is great for republicans and possibly why mccain went with Palin is that she's knew, and she can pretend to be anything she wants, just for political reasons, just for votes, which is exactly what she is doing"

Frankly, that's a bit easy. Plus, the election is not anymore about issues at this point, anyone really thinking that besides partisanship did not see what happened these last 2 days and probably missed much in elections these past 50 years.

What should annoy you is that a simple but bold plan worked, propelling an unknown governor in her opponent's battlefield: stardom.

And that Obama's camp can virtually do nothing about it, which is what they're doing at the moment except for the hypocrisy of citing the "elections not about issues" when they know it's right, answering to McCain's hypocrisy in trying to link them to a inevitable scandal and using the kids.

> Gladiator wrote:

> Yell so be ye suggestin' that th' reporter lied about that comely wench takin' that comely wench small town into debt, that comely wench cuttin' spendin' fer special minnows, that comely wench suin' th' government fer oil companies an' all th' other stuff i mentioned in me origianl post
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I'll have t' reread this after th' pirate stuff is gone...otherwise most o' th' important stuff u said i can't understan'

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.

@Gladiator

While the pirate is on, I'll play the game:

[- remember that small town of 6000-9000 people, she drove that town from around no debt to a debt of around 20 million]
That will definitely be looked into and you will eventually know the truth, though I can already tell you that it can be counter-balanced any way you see it.
If it's true, you'll see it's somehow for the town's future exposure and benefit, if it's wrong, it's another leftist attack.

[-she came out saying she will help special kids, but she actually cut spending for the special kids in Alaska, and around 250 children in alaska recieve no real care because of that spending cut]
This stinks "odd linking": she cut taxes = less special tax-paid programs => special kids were part of said programs => leftist translation = she's a liar and refuses aid to special kids.
Basically, when attacked by it, suffices to say that the plan/program was not a good one, "believe me I know" etc etc.

[-she's actually helped the Oil companies by suing the government to take Polar bears of the endangered species list so that there could be further exploration for oil]
It's her knowledge that the Polar Bear is not in danger and his protection is limiting business opportunities. She does what she feels right.

[-she has actually never been an agressive politician, she changed quite a bit for the speech last night]
When you get elected from main banker to family leader in IC, you kind have to adapt.

[-infact she was actually assigned a voice coach, to make her voice sound a bit well les annoying tongue]
I hope she was! Her voice sounded horrible previously and it IS a big issue. Just as Biden's teeth, McCain old face or Obama's tie knot. You don't get that?

[- and she was also assigned a speech coach to better her attacking skills]
What? If she had not, she would be campaigning for the Arkansas liberation party or something. Same as above. This is a professional business.

[- and according to someone who has interviewed her countless times and has known her for decades, she has never been a small town type of girl, she has always been about business, big businesses]
Of course she's not. You know many small town girls who can step up out there and deliver yesterday's speech without flinching? McCain is not a nice grandpa, Obama is not a street guy and Biden is not a funny dude neither. But they need to appear as people want them to appear. How do you think you win an election? This IS a professional business.

well Golk i don't know any more than to thank you because you keep on prooving my point, that this was ALL for politics...

well she portrays herself as someone who stands up to the oil companies, i don't see much of that
she portrayed herself yesterday to be a fighter for special kids, i don't see any of that
she portrayed herself as a small town girl, she's definetly not much of that
and i'm sorry but if you can crash a town with only 6700 people and take them into a debt of 20 million dollars, you need help
THAT IS JUST WAY TOO MUCH debt for a small town like that

and well sooner or later i hope the truth will come out, and she will be exposed as the two faced women she is-- don't excpect those ratings to stay where they are btw, and like you said she changed for the position so the ratings are basically not fair game, as those ratings were achieved by someone totally different than the Palin running with McCain today

> Gladiator wrote:

> well Golk i don't know any more than to thank you because you keep on prooving my point, that this was ALL for politics...

1)  well she portrays herself as someone who stands up to the oil companies, i don't see much of that
2)  she portrayed herself yesterday to be a fighter for special kids, i don't see any of that
3)  she portrayed herself as a small town girl, she's definetly not much of that
4)  and i'm sorry but if you can crash a town with only 6700 people and take them into a debt of 20 million dollars, you need help
THAT IS JUST WAY TOO MUCH debt for a small town like that
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1)  she never said/implied that she stands up to oil companies (in general) but rather that she stands up to the corrupt ones, until they either better hide or take away their corruption
2)  you don't see her charging extra tax money to then put some of that money to take care of most/all special needs kids...in her speech she did NOT promise to do ANYTHING for them except to fight for them (translation:  i'll try for you, not ignore you...not, i'll do what you want and/or what i figure you need).  Another way to put it is that her strategy isn't one you agree with.  But at least she has a strategy.  The Dems might have one too.  But not the same one.
3)  She WAS a small town girl.  She is no more.  But all of our backgrounds (where we came from, etc) NEVER leave us completely in how we relate to other people.
4)  Please provide a link explaining where that money went.  Maybe it's building expensive public infrastructure or something.  Mind you, maybe it was misused.  Please provide a link to find out which theory it is.

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.