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http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/1796098/__Aanval_op_Iran_verwacht__.html?cid=rss

Like this?  US planning to attack Iran cause they "suspect" Iran makes nucleair warheads.

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Did Russia sell off most of their nukes already? I doubt they have anything left that would be a danger. tongue

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> [psycho] reallybig wrote:

> James Bond is the world police
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nah, captain planet!

till the end of time..

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A world police controlled by 1 country... sorry but i am rofl'ing... that will just [woof!] the balans in this world. Well... tbh... wich balans? There is no balans. Atm America is the only super power at their peak. They are walking next to their shoes. They are so convinced they are so damn imba that they can do whatever they want.

It will become fun when China will claim their spot on the super power ladder.

The UN is weak indeed... remove Vetos and just make it more democratical... but... Russia will never accept that... so in the end... UN will never get the change to act as a police power.

Einstein wrote, nuke down all dictators... I hope u are joking mate... this will start a nucleair war. A nucleair war will mean that this world will end. WWI was devastating, WWII was horrible, but WWIII will be the end of the world.

America must lay down their stupid thoughts about controlling the world. Go back to your isoloment policy. Hang back more and help somewhere when it is really needed.

Don't judge a country by having nucleair bombs... surely not when you have many more then any other country. And so far not a single other country has used a nucleair bomb to any other country. Only America was stupid enough to use 2.

I do not fear Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, China or Russia. I fear America... they are the reall threath to this world.

The hate in this world only increased after the invading in Afghanistan and Iraq. I gonna laugh my self to death when they really gonna invade Iran.

America will dwinddle down from rank1 in the world to rank 100. Bankrupcy ftl!

You have claimed all this time that you would die for me. Why then are you so surprised to hear your own eulogy?

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"It will become fun when China will claim their spot on the super power ladder. "

I hope this is just anti america joke and you dont really beleive this. You think the US is bad, China will go occupy the countries that dont even pose a threat. And they will do it with an iron fist and with no regard for human rights.

The anti- america propoganda is fine but if it comes to making statements like the one you just did it is now a mental disease. It doesn't reflect reality at all.

"America must lay down their stupid thoughts about controlling the world. Go back to your isoloment policy. Hang back more and help somewhere when it is really needed."

I agree with you here. I don't want us to spend our money on shit that no one thanks us for. Except we wont come help when it is "really needed" I hope this is fine with you?

"I do not fear Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, China or Russia. I fear America... they are the reall threath to this world."

Again, this anti america propoganda is getting a bit ridiculous. Iran with nuclear weapons is less of a threat than the USA?

"Don't judge a country by having nucleair bombs... surely not when you have many more then any other country. And so far not a single other country has used a nucleair bomb to any other country. Only America was stupid enough to use 2."

I dont think what america did was smart. I think they should have rather dropped the bomb on a mountain or something so the japanese will see its power and will stop the war before the next one comes in. But the atom bomb was dropped to save lives beleive it or not. If the Allies were to invade japan there would have been many more lives lost. Not to mention if the war continues the Allies would keep carpet bombing the cities and in time it would be more destruction than the atom bombs.

But a nuclear weapon in the hands of a islamic radical is deadly. You should watch the mosque sermons they give. Its pure hatred and violence.

"The hate in this world only increased after the invading in Afghanistan and Iraq. I gonna laugh my self to death when they really gonna invade Iran."

Yes the hate increased. Mainly americans feeling the hatred towards the bush idiot foreign policies. We won't make this mistake again. We wont invade unless we are directly attacked by a country.

"America will dwinddle down from rank1 in the world to rank 100. Bankrupcy ftl!"

Again, you are happy for this? There will be a day when america loses #1 position to China but that will not be a good day for this world.

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"It will become fun when China will claim their spot on the super power ladder."

Yeah then we can complain about an arrogant control freak of a nation which has no problem coming into our houses and killing us in our sleep, won't that just be FUN!!

"The UN is weak indeed... remove Vetos and just make it more democratical... but... Russia will never accept that"

The US will never accept that, or any other nation with Veto powers in the UN.  The only way the UN could become a world police force is if it had a private army, one made up entirely of people loyal to the UN as opposed to their country of origin otherwise you couldn't rely on them to do their job if they had to go into their own country.

>>"I do not fear Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, China or Russia. I fear America... they are the reall threath to this world."

Again, this anti america propoganda is getting a bit ridiculous. Iran with nuclear weapons is less of a threat than the USA?<<

In some ways yes.  The US can hit anywhere on the planet, I doubt Iran could boast as much.

There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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- Look, i don't hope China become the new super power... it will not really be a big benefit for the world.

But it is just waiting for the time to see it happen.

- Well, any country with nuclear weapons are a treath to the world. But so far only the usa used them. And the 2nd bomb was not needed. After the first bomb Japan wanted to talk about peace and agreements... but America wanted a straight away surrender... so they nuked own another city.

- Yes I am kinda anti-america... but they created that by theirselves. They are to ego-full. Slow down on your world policy and focus more on your own country. There are alot of thinks that needs to be fixxed. Big example is the coming hurricanes. Focus more on that. Make better plans to reduce victims by natural disasters.

You have claimed all this time that you would die for me. Why then are you so surprised to hear your own eulogy?

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"Yes I am kinda anti-america... but they created that by theirselves. They are to ego-full. Slow down on your world policy and focus more on your own country. There are alot of thinks that needs to be fixxed. Big example is the coming hurricanes. Focus more on that. Make better plans to reduce victims by natural disasters."

yes i agree with you. but we are not "ego-ful" Our leaders are doing what they "think" is the best for the world but sometimes it does not turn out that way. That is why we should concentrate on our own shit for a while.

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"Our leaders are doing what they "think" is the best for the world "

You live in a dreamworld if you believe that.

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> Cocanut wrote:

> - Look, i don't hope China become the new super power... it will not really be a big benefit for the world.

But it is just waiting for the time to see it happen.

- Well, any country with nuclear weapons are a treath to the world. But so far only the usa used them. And the 2nd bomb was not needed. After the first bomb Japan wanted to talk about peace and agreements... but America wanted a straight away surrender... so they nuked own another city.

- Yes I am kinda anti-america... but they created that by theirselves. They are to ego-full. Slow down on your world policy and focus more on your own country. There are alot of thinks that needs to be fixxed. Big example is the coming hurricanes. Focus more on that. Make better plans to reduce victims by natural disasters.




Couldn't agree more, old friend, couldn't agree more. Alot of people could argue that some countries that interfere with other country's affairs should deal with their own problems first. After all, there are alot of things that need help in US, environment, schooling, and the coming hurricanes.

Plus, I'm sure if the US stopped paying TOO much attention to other country's affairs, we might actually make better cars than Japan =O

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> Cocanut wrote:

>- Well, any country with nuclear weapons are a treath to the world. But so far only the usa used them. And the 2nd bomb was not needed. After the first bomb Japan wanted to talk about peace and agreements... but America wanted a straight away surrender... so they nuked own another city.
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Some Koreans recently told me that the Japanese (during WWII) government had more painful torture techniques than even the German Nazis!
And they added that the Japanese had just created biological weapons to use on their own people (like the Russians) and on the war "criminals" they captured, and on the nations they were intending to conquer.
...so based on that info, the Americans nuked us all a favour, including the Japanese!

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me tongue
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.

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A world police controlled by 1 country... sorry but i am rofl'ing... that will just [woof!] the balans in this world. Well... tbh... wich balans? There is no balans. Atm America is the only super power at their peak. They are walking next to their shoes. They are so convinced they are so damn imba that they can do whatever they want.

Ehm USA peaked 230 years ago and has been declining ever since.
It's currently the only democraticly elected government using wide scale torture to suppress enemies and dissidents alike, it is the only country in the world actively promoting pollution as a way of life, and it has been bankrupt for the last 20 years.

What should happen is that other countries collect their outstanding debts and the US will turn from global superpower to third world country overnight. But that wont happen soon as the US is the biggest consumermarket in the world atm.

As for all this bitching about china we must remember that China has only started on the road to civil rights 20 in 1990, and see what has changed. The US declared all men equal under god on July 4th 1776,however it took untill december 1865 to get rid of the most inhumane lifestyle imaginable: The enslaving of other human beings. And it took till 1965 to get black people to be equal under the law. for those counting along that's 189 years later. so how about the US wait and see where china is in 2179 before they start getting upon their high horse.

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...try telling that to the hundreds of thousands of Chinese Christians currently slaughtered/murdered and/or tortured for not being a part of the public national church of China.

"I will fight for your right to be wrong!" << S.G. Tallentyre
"I am a flexible centrist: not stuck on right-wing, not stuck on left-wing, and not stuck on centre...and I don't flip-flop either" <<< me tongue
Fighting for peace is like stopping the raping of a virgin.

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Aeger, also if you will note, most, if not all, americans who were in america during the revolutionary war (and up to the civil war) were mostly immigrants from Europe. Europe had a feudal system, and they also had a superiority complex back then. If you're not white, then I'm better than you. etc.

if you think the US peaked 230 years ago, then look at WW2, what, 70 years ago, when the US was the major factor in the war. FDR, the soldiers who fought and the people working together to support the fighting men overseas. Sure they persecuted japanese immigrants, but if your country was suddenly attacked by the Irish, ie, your leader was blown up on live tv, you might be a bit more concerned the next time you see an irishman

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I think what went wrong here is the US overreacted to 9/11. I assure you americans wont make the same mistake again. Already there is talk that the US troops will stop patrolling Iraqi streets by middle of 2009.

I am saying that we are going increasingly bankrupt from wars that we don't need to be fighitng or we are fighting the wrong way. If you go into any war you CANNOT expect to save as many civilian lives as possible and still expect it to be inexpensive. Either carpet bomb the shit out of them or just dont invade at all. I would choose the latter.

We are also going bankrupt from Bush's increased government. He is not a true conservative like reagan was. Reagan worked to decrease government as much as possible, not just lower taxes.

Right now I cannot say america is going on a downhill. I know everyone else in the world would like us to go down but it won't be happening anytime soon. The technological advances are being made in the US and the american people always come back up when they are down. One example how we were smarter than the Europeans was when we aloud large amounts of immigrants from India for our software. Because of that we are technologically more advanced ( i know u will disagree but i will bring proof ) No matter what political party is leading us we will be fine in the end. I have a rather optimistic view about america big_smile

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"...try tellin' that t' th' hundreds o' thousands o' Chinese Christians currently slaughtered/murdered an'/or tortured fer not bein' a part o' th' public national church o' China."

First o' all thar arent hundreds o' thousands o' chinese christians, an' th' last time these were systematically tortured were bein' more then twenty years ago.  Shiver me timbers, ye scurvey dog!  I'm not sayin' that th' chinese have it right I'm just sayin' that th' Americans have no right t' be tellin' th' chinese off.  Or be these chinese christians fer some reason more important then those thousands upon thousands o' americans kille an' tortured in th' US durin' th' 1950's fer no other reason then someone else accusin' them o' bein' communist, me Jolly Roger does th' name mcCarthy rin' a bell.


"Because o' that we be technologically more advanced ( i know u will disagree but i will brin' proof ) Nay matter what political party is leadin' us we will be fine in th' end.  I have a rather optimistic view about america "

The US isnt even technologically advanced t' th' maori tribes anymore tongue Most o' th' technological advances o' th' last ten years have come from countries as china india an' japan, Dance the Hempen Jig

And as fer th' rest o' th' world wantin' th' see th' US go down as i said before th' US is too big a consumer market t' have destroyed.  If it wasnt then all th' europeans an' yes th' chinese would have t' do is call on th' billions o' pieces of eight o' debt th' US has with them an' that is th' end o' th' US.


"Aeger, also if ye will note, most, if not all, americans who were in america durin' th' revolutionary war (an' up t' th' civil war) were mostly immigrants from Europe.  Europe had a feudal system, an' they also had a superiority complex back then.  If ye're not white, then I'm better than ye, shiver me timbers etc"

Ehm China were bein' a feudal system in th' extreme till 1943 so why is it an excuse fer th' europeans but not fer th' chinese?


"if ye think th' US peaked 230 years ago, then look at WW2, what, 70 years ago, when th' US were bein' th' major factor in th' war.  Aarrr!  FDR, th' soldiers who fought an' th' scallywags workin' together t' support th' fightin' men overseas."
"Sure they persecuted japanese immigrants, but if yer country were bein' suddenly attacked by th' Irish, ie, yer leader were bein' blown up on live tv, ye might be a bit more concerned th' next time ye see an irishman"

Ah yes nothin' says we're civilized more then goin' t' war, at least in th' US it seems.  Vietnam grenada Quwait Irak.  Meanwhile 12 t' 16% o' US citizens permanently lives beneath th' poverty line with republican governments pushin' that up t' 40 % sometimes, Decent health care a fabled treasure t' about a third o' th' population, an' th' highest crimerate in th' western world.  If that is what democracy an' human rights give ye no wonder so many countries refuse it, and a bottle of rum, pass the grog!


Ah yes an' when a small group o' arabian terrorists blow up a buildin' ye persecute an' torture thousands o' yer own inhabitants fer havin' roots in th' middle east perfectly logical, and a bucket o' chum.  so why didnt th' government put up a camp fer Polish scallywags after th' UNA bomber, i mean Kaczynski is a polish name so by that logic every US citizen with eastern European roots should have been interred.