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ok HKD...

here is a challenge for you sir.

11
10
01
00

So long as their percentage adds up to 100%, give any percentage you want to any value.

We will act as if this is on 1 billion bits.

I will simulate the system running on your percentages, and even stop it and give you further choices within the possible ranges of your provided details so you can try to stop me at any cost tongue

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"Simulate" being the crux of the matter...

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53 (edited by Wild Foolish Soul 31-Aug-2008 09:42:52)

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[flaming]

Break it Down!

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Simulate includes the math portions. A step by step break down. Go away fool, your just making noise.

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no i am making sense... you are not a unique snowflake flint, your theory is just that a theory... it works in maths but not in reality... don't worry you are not the first to be fooled by the greatness that is numbers

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i'll believe this when i see it work. Atm I believe spook3's proof more than your theories, at least i understood that proof tongue

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I think I need to clarify my last post a bit. You explained indeed how you'd compress it, but can you tell us how to decompress it?

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> Einstein wrote:
> Simulate includes the math portions. A step by step break down. Go away fool, your just making noise.<

  A simulation is not proof of concept.
  Mathematical theory is not proof of concept.
  No proof of concept = no backing.

  Learn to program, create your program, and when you have proof that your concept works you will have more backing than you will ever need. Until you do this no one will ever take you, or your theory, seriously.

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Wild Flower Soul I can indeed walk backwards, it's pretty easy to do, any child with blocks could probably do it, which says a lot about IC people like Fokker there.

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Once again, in plain English?

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He's saying decompressing is as simple as compressing, i think.

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yeah the child Fokker cannot understand it is as simple as compressing

Result A leads to Result B

Result B leads to Result A

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einstein i read this http://groups.google.com/group/comp.theory/browse_thread/thread/dd4258928e18a8ad
Everyone is pointing out errors everywhere, not a single person has confirmed your theory could work not a single one. That says enough i think, quit wasting your time, go back to reality and drop out of fantasy world. This crap has been going on for years now and it will never work.

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Decompressing can often be far more complicated than compressing. It is far more difficult to walk backwards than you think. Try doing it without looking behind you. That's right, while facing forward the whole time. Not only do you walk backwards, but you have to stay in a particular formation as well. The only way to see is to use your peripheral vision. At this point, walking backwards becomes far more difficult than if you did the same formation walking forward. It's the concept of opposites. Remember that old saying that it takes more muscles to frown than it does to smile? It's the same here. It will take far more steps to decompress than it did to compress and therein lies the problem with your hypothesis.

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> Einstein wrote:
> yeah the child Fokker cannot understand it is as simple as compressing<

Actually what I don't understand is why you are addressing me in such an offensive manner, especially as I was the first person to wish you good luck, and am one of the few people who is putting their personal opinions aside and giving you good advice to help you on your way.


>Result A leads to Result B
Result B leads to Result A<

If it is indeed this simple, prove it, program the program yourself and demonstrate it.
So what if learning to program will add one or two years to the project, you've been working on it for at least two years already, probably four or more, and how did you get through those years? By thinking of the money.


Now stop being such a ******* baby (I'll apologise when you do) and either do it properly or don't do it at all.

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Twisted Puppet

Here is a quick sample code:

1011011010101011

Compressing (without command section, this is to small a file to actually compress)

1    1    0
1    1    1
1    0   
1    1    1
1    0
1    0   
1    0
1    1    1

After huffman
111110010000010011

Step to undo is simple

Reverse Huffman (well known, proven in so many different forums, papers, etc)

Then Start counting in file #1, if bit is 1, then next bit is located in file 2. If thats a 1 then next bit is in file #3. Next bit is located in file 1 then regardless. If you find a 0 the next bit is located in file #1. Always take the left most bit.

It has no complexity, involves no time increase that I can detect. In fact due to the fact it does not need to do various count features the compression stage requires, it can go ahead and just decompress... so much faster than the compression stage.








Doomer no one has stepped up yet in full, but a couple are trying... plus the two people I am emailing who feel like the anti-global warming scientists with me in this tidal wave, and a few others.

And still no one wishes to try the challenge?

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67 (edited by [Pw9]~KT~ 31-Aug-2008 19:28:40)

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>And still no one wishes to try the challenge?<

The challenge is stupid:

"Give me numbers to compress and I will compress and then decompress them to prove my [thingy] works."
"Um, how? The program doesn't actually exist yet, you can't find anyone willing to program it."
"I will simulate it."
"Simulate? How?"
"Oh come now, you know I'm a genius when it comes to statistics and mathematical theorem."
"You mean you're going to do it in your head."
"Yup."
"The same head that you openly admit suffers from a judgement altering disorder that you openly admit you refuse to have treated?"
"[] you satanist!"

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Flint, you don't seem to see the little details. I still don't think this is going to work in reality. You've been at this for nigh on 5 years.  Pix or it didn't happen.

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I still demand my royalties from WFS using my IP!

Flint, you still haven't said anything about the fact that I know that this is all just mathematical theory and unable to convert to real life...

also i will take up your challenge, cause it costs me nothing


11   99.999999999999999999999999999999%
10     0.0000000000000000000000000000009%
01     0.000000000000000000000000000000091%
00     0.000000000000000000000000000000009%

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Oh no - looks like someone has gone one better with a magic compression algorithm tongue

"I now know how to compress any file to 50 bytes.
The file can be of any length, and random data
compress well.

Step 1 - take your binary file, and invert every "1" bit.
Make an note in the command section to encode
the position of the original "1" bits. It is well known that
command sections never exceed about 50 bytes.


Step 2 - compress the remaining data. This is particularly
easy as it is all "0". You could just note the length.


Step 3 (optional) - if the length would take more than
about 50 bytes to represent, we can effectively compress
that too. Thus any file can be reduced to about 100 bytes.
Conceptually, we could do a third stage, but that would
only be needed if the file size was bigger than the product
of the age of the universe, and the number of known fish. "

Beat that tongue

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Now if only you could find a programmer to implement it big_smile

What do I have to work with?

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nothing on the evil tyranny of the modship impringing on my freedoms?

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well malorean implemented it back then and showed that it compesses some txt files by like 30% or something but thats it ...  sadly it doesnt compress more since the aproach being somewhat different from the usual it had a chance of being exceptionally good or bad ...     this turned out to be bad ..


dunno what changes have been made since then tho

anyways ..  its really sad that flint doesnt spend his time on something more promising .. ... i would be really happy if one day he said .. well i dumped the limitless compression idea and focused on some general purpose datastorage algorithm .. its not perfekt but at least its better than the current standard .......



you really dont  need to start a revolution .. chaning a couple people's lives is more than most of us eevr do

74 (edited by Elrohir 02-Sep-2008 22:01:15)

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people as Nolio said before... Why are you bashing Flint... do you care so much for him you don't want him to waste his time or are you just seeking excuses to make fun of him..

My math knowledge is not sufficient enough to start in on this, so I will let out what I think.. but come on.. no invention or idea (especially in mathematics) is done right away.. maybe flint will work something out of this work who knows.. maybe he is wasting his time...

so just ask yourself why are you posting here big_smile

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75 (edited by Spooky3do 03-Sep-2008 21:20:15)

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i think its very simple .. we all have a limited timespan during which we can do pretty amazing things .. not to mention the fact that being able to do anything at all is pretty amazing itself  .. ..

so we all have the opportunity .. and its really sad to see that someone who clearly has potential of some sort gets caught up in someting futile because he lacks knowledge  and isnt willing to catch up  ..