you COULD but you'd need a very sophisticated extrapolation program. If I'm sending 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
the opening/decoder would have to be able to know that 1234567880  was a botch, also 2234567890, 1234455890, etc.

I suppose if you put all your messages into iambic pentameter that would do it!

Flint!

You owe me 40% for that one!

Let me break this down into a real simple example

64 bits goes in.

Stage 1 increases it to 72 bits statistically

Stage 2 puts it in files, we then run file #1 again.

File #1 had 32 bits when put in, now it has 36 and is split into 3
subfiles.

1.1 has 16 bits
1.2 has 12 bits
1.3 has 8 bits

Now the ratio's:
File 1.1
93.75% to 6.25%.

File 1.2
80% to 20%

File 1.3
75% to 25%

File 1.1 comes out with a statistical 9.47 bits remaining.

File 1.2 comes out with a statistical 9.36 bits remaining

File 1.3 comes out with a statistical 6.75 bits remaining

This is 25.58 bits.

Compare this to the 28.44 bits that it would normally hold

Since this is repeatable upon any file (1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 2, 3 currently
in existance in this example) this means we can compress ALL files of
sufficient size.

If no matter what file #1 after being run through the system again is
smaller than what it went in as, we have proven compression of
entropic data.

Let me stress that again.

So long as 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 is smaller than file #1 was to begin with, we
have compression of random binary data.

I will stand by this to the end of my days, and be right always!

Flint has been challenged by "Jym" on google compression groups

OK. Then let's do the following bet.

******************************************
1/ The bet starts on Monday Spetember the first, 00:00 GMT.

2/ The bet pauses once you produce a program that implements HCM.

3/ The bet stops once a program implementing HCM has been checked to (for   
a given n of your choice)
     * Compress every n bits strings into a strictly less than n bits string
AND * Compress two different n bits strings in two different results.

4/ While the bet run and is not paused, you give me 1 euro each day.

5/ At the time the bet stops, I give you 1,000,000 euros.

******************************************

Will he take up the challenge?

I showed it Tuesday, duh

And the Patent Papers will prove beyond a doubt the exact same The Yell is talking about

oh that Compression again...

in case you forgot ..
thats a basic proof i wrote like  3 years ago
http://www.daddelbande.de:7001/compress/

limitless compression not possible if you want to keep it lossless

Anyhow, we've seen this topic come up plenty of times and I've had enough with the flint bashing.

Regardless of whether or not it works (I'm no programmer so I can't comment) Flint has actually put some effort into trying to do something. More than what a lot of ppl do on a daily basis. Flint, best of luck to you and your theory. Whether it's a success, it may possibly be the ground work of someone else's success later.

Now anyone who wants to discuss it can debate the possibilities and ask for explanations but I don't want to see another insult. Otherwise, forum ban. Ty, have a nice day.

It keeps him from playing this game... leave him in his denial.

It must be noted that it should work the other way around too Flint.

4+5=9; but 9 can be fractured differently too!

All I want is for him to just make the damn thing and stop trying to gloat about having some awesome method. As the chans would put it, pix or it didn't happen.

>>Wild Foolish Soul
    Forum Moderator<<

I claim copyright infringement!!!!! X( X( X(

oh and less importantly, didn't we go over this before? Haven't we decided that this is full of crap?

On another note, last time he posted a massive post explaining his concept as somesort of patent application via the IC forums i did show it to some friends of mine, computer software and electrical and electronic engineers, and they laughed... apparently this is a concept every 2nd year student will come up with and think they have made a startling discovery... it works well in theory, but apparently there are too many issues in reality that you never actually get compression, or full data recovery.

though main point, i demand compensation for use of my name!

UNfortunatly for flint this has been thought up before by countless people, as early as 2000, howevcer it is an entirely theoritical proof that works on paper but not in reality...