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> TheYell wrote:
> Michael Palin visited Waziristan, he said snow blocked the passes 6 months out of the year. Not much we're gonna be able to do in that kind of country except bomb people into refugee status. Is that Obama's style?
i dunno, just thorough and simple style in general 
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> Gladiator wrote:
> kashmir might be mentioned but it won't bring in voters other than people residing in kashmir really...the rest of the people would rather have their problems solved first
i think you re actually underestimiating how many ppl would
as said before, they re pretty proud and nationalistic in general
I must say, the most surprising thing about this thread thus far is that it took BW 13 posts to do his ultra right bitch-moan retinue. But thats getting off topic (:p)
But Im less concerned about his resignation and more so about who will succeed him. I don't know much about Pakistani politics, but have any names come up yet? I wonder if they will get the liberal, anti US President that their parliament wants. And if that were to happen, is it likely that the military will stage a Coup and get one of their own back on top?
> ..Nemeara.. wrote:
> > Gladiator wrote:
> kashmir might be mentioned but it won't bring in voters other than people residing in kashmir really...the rest of the people would rather have their problems solved first
i think you re actually underestimiating how many ppl would
as said before, they re pretty proud and nationalistic in general<
*applause*
It is also worth remembering that Kashmir has brought Pakistan and India to the brink of all-out nuclear war at least twice to my mind, and very recently too.
> CanadianTire wrote:
> I must say, the most surprising thing about this thread thus far is that it took BW 13 posts to do his ultra right bitch-moan retinue. But thats getting off topic (:p)
But Im less concerned about his resignation and more so about who will succeed him. I don't know much about Pakistani politics, but have any names come up yet? I wonder if they will get the liberal, anti US President that their parliament wants. And if that were to happen, is it likely that the military will stage a Coup and get one of their own back on top?<
Who gets in will depend entirely on wo can play the election game the best.
The likelyhood of a miliary coup? Too likely for me to want to think about.
@Nemeara
he started tearing.... 
so he just went from 100% bad to 99%
actually i don't think he should've resigned right now...he should have done it earlier, but since he didn't he should've waited a little longer, fix all the problems..the ones he had the power to fix and then leave office...cuz the coalition isn't guna do SHIT and they have no one to blame now..it's guna be a bigger mess
and about the kashmir thing, there's not enough people like that to make it enough of an issue to be won the election with, there's just bigger problems on the table right now
@CT
i was shocked too, i'm also shocked there's been no Einstien post in this thread 
and theres only two real candidates, pakistani politics is something i follow a lot, i am like 1/4 paki actually probably less but yeh.. it'll either be Nawaz Sharif ( i think he should be the one to take office, as he would make a much better candidate, he would be involved with america but only to the extent so that the people don't think of him as doing wrong, and he on the right track right now i think)
or it wil be:
Asif Ali Zardari (he's Benhzir Bhutto's husband, bhutto was assassinated and she in her will asked zardari to suceed her party position and he did and in my opinion this guy's a two faced a-hole , he's only after the money and he only fullfilled bhutto's wish so that the cases that were open against would be closed,--- i think he could be the worst thing for pakistan and the world, he will do NOTHING ..except eat money..)
I think the best president for pakistan in this situation would be Imran Khan...he has the best ideology for the situation right now and if he keeps his word the best solutions for the biggest problems.. but it's impossible that he will win the election..he has no real support ..sadly
Fokker & CT....
a military coup is VERY VERY VERY..HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY unlikely right now..to the stage that it just might be impossible
the new Chief of Army staff, kyani is very much to himself and he would never take over the government, he's sticking to the military, he pulled out all military involvemenet from musharaf's government and is probably the most unlikely to take office, in the country!
I hope they catch Osama Bin Laden until the general elections. Maybe then the average american will realise what a pile of bullshit he's been fed all these years and put Bush and chronies in jail.
Wishful thinking I know
how about he gets to start his own country and becomes an ally in the war against terrorism xD
oh how i wish that was possible gen
but they probably have him in bush's texas ranch..poppin some of his fine afghani opium...
The solution to the problem of the tribal areas is to give the pashtuns their own nation.
And then bomb them into the stone-age when they vote for a guy you don't like.
Theo, even if that was the solution, which i don't think it is
that will never happen...
"The solution to the problem of the tribal areas is to give the pashtuns their own nation."
Pakistanis and Afghans are really goings nuts over that.
I used to be a bush supporter... wow. i agreed about nothing with him other than his economic policies. this is another stupid thing bush and the republicans are doing. allying with pakistan?!?!? what the [fungawi]! They gave money to pakistan but got nothing in return really. And they beleive in democracy which is one of the reasons they say they invaded iraq but musharaf was a dictator. And they called musharaf their ally but he did nothing. You cant blame musharaf because you would know that the people get what they want eventually and the people did not want to be allied with the US. Bush still has not understood that. The basics of democracy yet he wants to spread it to the rest of the world??!?!??
Really my ideal candidate is one with democrat style of foreign policy anda republican style of government. Anyone else think that?
anyway back to topic! The solution to pakistan is to stop sending them money. don't invade them either. osama bin laden is probably dead anyway. Let their democracy figure itself out.
Rooster i applaud you
This is one of the things VERY VERY wrong with the bush administration...One moment something is right..the other it isn't. Same thing with the Georgia and Russia "war", Bush is criticizing Russia for something he's doing to Iraq. and like you pointed out, musharaf a dictator is perfectly alright, even though he didn't do much agains terrorism, while dictatorship in Iraq is wrong.
I agree that the money should no longer be given to Pakistan, I also think Osama if there ever was anyone like the Osama portrayed, is probably dead. And the TERRIBLE TERRIBLE mess pakistan's democracy is in..should be given an opportunity to resolve itself. Although I think the tribal areas should be dealt with, making sure that no pakistan national is hurt and with co-operation with the pakistani government/army.
I would say the worst thing that happened with the Pakistan was the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, which was possibly done with involvement of the CIA/american officials and musharaf. Evidence had been removed almost immidiately, but one thing that was found that a retired army general told of in an interview was some nuclear substance that he said could be from the bullet used, which is more likely than what the investigators said happened, which was that she hit her head on the railing, which is not possible considering the videos recieved. Also the gun showed in some of the videos is at an angle that does not match the bullet wound according to family and party officals of Bhuttos.
lolz, if you give the pushtuns their own nation, the other ppl might want to have one as well
> Simon wrote:
> "The solution to the problem of the tribal areas is to give the pashtuns their own nation."
Pakistanis and Afghans are really goings nuts over that.
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Imagine giving the Indians in the USA and the Aboriginals in Canada their own nations.
If not, then there's hypocrisy! 
> Red_Rooster wrote:
> I used to be a bush supporter... wow. i agreed about nothing with him other than his economic policies. this is another stupid thing bush and the republicans are doing. allying with pakistan?!?!? what the [fungawi]! They gave money to pakistan but got nothing in return really. And they beleive in democracy which is one of the reasons they say they invaded iraq but musharaf was a dictator. And they called musharaf their ally but he did nothing. You cant blame musharaf because you would know that the people get what they want eventually and the people did not want to be allied with the US. Bush still has not understood that. The basics of democracy yet he wants to spread it to the rest of the world??!?!??
Really my ideal candidate is one with democrat style of foreign policy anda republican style of government. Anyone else think that?
anyway back to topic! The solution to pakistan is to stop sending them money. don't invade them either. osama bin laden is probably dead anyway. Let their democracy figure itself out.
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Agreed!
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