Topic: Code of Honour | Poll

Seeing this poll, it got me thinking again...

First of all, what is honour? If you look it up or think about it.. it comes down to do the things that are considered 'Right'. Doing these things right gives your respect from the community, making you are honourable person. 

What do you respect most in this game? What family would you like most, what should a family do to earn your respect...?

For me a family gets respect for doing something special. Like coming back from a low position, or fighting a equal war and winning it, or even better being the weaker family and winning it. And above all keeping promises: written AND unwritten!!

Now this is opposite of a family farming others, breaking naps .. etc. Would you respect this family..? I would totally not!! a family that is not respected by anyone because they don't play as the community sees right.. is a dishonourable player/family.

now what is the problem? Well... some people just don't want to play honourable or find ways where they justify their own acts with some lame excuse...

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Solution & answer to the poll.

I'd say enforcing is not the option. All we can do is make the galaxy aware of its happenings. So what I'd say is that all acts that happen in the galaxy so be written down or recorded in some manner.

If a war is announced, let everyone know the details
If a nap is signed, let everyone know the details
If a war is over, let everyone know the details

Give each family the opportunity to expose their family news, their inbox.. etc

This way if a weird situation comes up, a family could show the rest of the galaxy what has happened. Proof to back up their story and with that show who is a bad family.. which family can't be trusted and plays without honour.


Thank you for your time,
Elro

Elrohir
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Re: Code of Honour | Poll

My bro actually wrote a paper for uni on ethics and company espionage... He used IC as an example in it. In short it comes down to the idea that honour (or good ethics for companies) are aspired by many and talked highly of by even more. Yet if one family (or company) abandons this it gains an advantage over all the other families. Therefore others will copy it until no families play honorable anymore (or only very few). At that point it is probable that things will turn around and ppl will get tired of all the spying and dishonorable behaviour and attempt to change things around. More families will play honorable and try to enforce honor. This continues until the cycle is reversed again.

Mods however cannot enforce honour (too much work, and too sketchy most of the time). Players and families will have to sort it out themselves.

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therefore making people aware of what happens, makes things a little more objective! Besides most families only become dishonourable when they can talk it away or hide behind something...

if everyone is aware of the situation that will become a lot harder smile

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let's hope mw players keep it most of the time clean in capricorn, like andro players can, but i doubt.

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someones got too much time on their hands ...

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Add a new "tag system"? Like breaking a nap -> -5 points. Vulturing -1 points? And enable all players to see this ranks. Dunno how many people would actually NAP a family where the leader got -100 such points (which a bunch of people would have already). It would make families chose other leaders then those NAP breaking ones. As it is atm, people who break NAPs one round becomes leaders for their familes the round after again...
It would be rather easy for mods to check if a family breaks a NAP as well.

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Honour is when you can have sex and then the next day look each other in the eye. (Metaphor, think about it.) tongue

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wtf is this "Honor Code"??? I've been playing since beta1 and I never heard of it:P

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a while back one of my fams did what was deamed as a dishonourable act and we where raped to the ground by 6 fams

i think that's the way it should stay works well and works on a democratic system

if enough fams decide you where dishourable then they will punish you, without anyone calling the illegal allience card

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I would like to have one galaxy have the Code of Honor enforced by Mods and have other galaxies play like normal.

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with 50 fams now, there will be alot farming going on, topfams on lower, midranked fams on the lowest etc...

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well Winnie, actually you can teach others a bit of honour tongue Last two rounds I bitched against the  other attackers in my family if they attacked small families. they respected my opinion and ceased such attacks smile

anyway honour should still be optional else it loses its worth. I still think that people should be able to be dishonourable if they wish. I just wish that it would be easier to pinpoint such players and families and that the galaxy would deal with those people!

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Eh, honour/dishonour is a good and useful topic.

I see honour, as fairplay, and sportsmanship. It means keeping your word when you give it. It means not atking someone too small to fight back. It means looking to pick on fams close to your own size, so the fight is fair. Or challenging those larger.

I see dishonour, as the opposite of the above: Breaking /dropping alliances or naps, for any reason. Atking down too far. Not stopping on a fam, that you are beating too badly.  And so on.

If you can look in the mirror, and like what you see, fine. But, if you  feel the least bit a guilt, you need to rethink your actions.

Do unto others, as you would be done to. Dont ever do to someone else, what you would dislike done to you. We all have ideas, of what is fair and right, and should stick to em.

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you honor your family first,allies second and you owe no one else anything period.

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if you sign a nap u honor the nap if you say your going to do somethign and do opposite its lame but its part of the game.

i think this is just about honoring naps nothing more imo.

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> maxatron wrote:

> you honor your family first,allies second and you owe no one else anything period.


Muhahahaha, LAME.

I give you, your fam, this round, is the only fam that matters, not old fam, not next fam.

I also give you, allies are a close second.

But you owe noone else? LIES, DAMNED LIES!!!

You owe your naps. You owe anyone you gave your word to.  You owe it to way smaller fams, to leave em alone. You owe it to fams you declare on, to stop in a  reasonable amount of takes. You owe it to yourself, and your fam, to display some small amount of honour. You owe the entire game, to play fairly, and with honour.

You owe to Stefan, for creating the game, and to to mods for trying to run it the best they can.

An, it goes on an on.  THINK!!

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" You owe anyone you gave your word to"

i agree but the thing is to not give your word.
this way you cannot be called dishonorable.
only do for your family that is right,do not nap because you have a friend in a fam.
for christ sakes this is a war game,if you wanna play nice then go play chutes and ladders with your little sister and leave the war games alone.

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lol so I was thinking right.

You know how most of IC uses TNT's standard nap? Why not make a whole new nap? For example, we make a code of honor thread each round for each galaxy. Ppl who sign naps have the option of signing the code of honor as well and the list of ppl who signed, post in uni news.

*NOTE: I am not advising an IA*

And then ppl who violate it get punished by the community? Just a thought.

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lol this isnt imperial council tongue

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isn't truth/right relative?
(pardon the sarcasm)

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Honor is the Imperial Aspect of this game, War is the Conflict.


This game really in a since, whether people wish to admit to it or not, requires both. Families that have demonstrated Zero honor have always been utterly destroyed, and their players scattered to the winds of time. Players that have had some measure of honor have existed and still play this game with the passion I do.


Honor lives... stop denying that it doesn't people.

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Re: Code of Honour | Poll

> maxatron wrote:

> " You owe anyone you gave your word to"

i agree but the thing is to not give your word.
this way you cannot be called dishonorable.
only do for your family that is right,do not nap because you have a friend in a fam.
for christ sakes this is a war game,if you wanna play nice then go play chutes and ladders with your little sister and leave the war games alone.


what! that's crazy! your little sister cheats and cusses worse than a drunken sailor!

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Re: Code of Honour | Poll

In my days of being in a top 10 fam...I usually was a medium or small attacker....

I would attack a family 25th or worse rank...but I would raid them and announce to their leader that this mini war was between their entire fam against just me.

I would keep this up for about a few days real time....then offer them peace...usually I lost most times, but it was "fun" with all the action that my family's large attackers would have we went to war.

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