Topic: The History of OBAMA.... A good read.

"Economic justice" simply means punishing the successful and redistributing their wealth by government fiat. It's a euphemism for socialism.

In the past, such rhetoric was just that

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LOL @ b/w trying to pass this off as his own post

the giveaway is its full of words b/w doesnt understand

this is just a cut and paste job, if you have something to say, say it big_smile

3 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 03-Aug-2008 17:02:12)

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Mark Levine?  Ugh, I knew it!

Seriously, Black_Wing... Levine is like the worst political role model you could choose.  Stick with Limbaugh or Hannity.  At least they actually debate people...

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Got anything to say about Obama?

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Yeah... I will be that token Republican and ruin my political career with this sarcastic humor.

Hey... ummm... you know... they say he's black!!!!! yikes:O:O:O

Now the Messiah's path is cleared to assume his God given office.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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> TheYell wrote:

> Got anything to say about Obama?

Me?  I'm not too keen on the details of the issues being addressed here, so I won't go into that.  I just want to question whether Levine is a legitimate source with regards to any type of debate.  If you want to go into the question of why, be my guest.  Otherwise... well, you get the idea.

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7 (edited by Black_Wing 03-Aug-2008 21:03:55)

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Selur and Zarf.

Boneheads....... 

Selur:  What part of:
"Mark Levine Show
MarkLevineShow.com

Referenced from Investors Business Daily."


Zarf what part of:

"Referenced from Investors Business Daily"   did YOU miss ??


Boneheads .....  Anything to say about Obama Millhouse ??  or

Do you both just wish to enamour yourselves with ole BW ??  big_smile

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8 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 03-Aug-2008 21:23:53)

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1: Doesn't matter.  I'm just saying "stop using Mark Levine, even if he's only a secondary source.  There's plenty of other conservative talk show hosts.  The primary separation between Levine and, say, Limbaugh or Hannity, is that Levine regularly slanders opponents with personal attacks.  If I was on the forum doing the same thing he does with every person I disagreed with on the forums, I would be banned pretty quickly.

2: I checked your other recent threads as well.  Guess how many are derived from Levine's website?  All of em.  There's no way you're digging yourself out of the statement that you endorse Levine.  I once called you on this earlier since you used a nickname for Clinton ("her thighness") which I recognized pretty quickly (mainly because I heard it a couple times on his radio show from when I USED to listen... but not anymore).

3: I'm not actually disagreeing with you on the issues themselves.  I'm only endorsing an atmosphere of fair debate on the forums.  Use and endorsement of a person who regularly resorts to personal attacks rather than debate about the issues only destroys the debate and relegates it to... well... the crap we have now on the IC forums.

4: Don't flatter yourself, by the way.  Just because I disagree with you, it doesn't mean I'm "enamored" with you (By the way, the word is spelt "enamored" in American English.  Just thought you might want to know because a patriotic American post using British English spelling just wouldn't be right).  You disagree with Obama so much that you made two threads about him!  Does that mean you're enamored with him?  No.  Hell, you also regularly make posts in response to me!  Does that mean I have a stalker?  No.

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The source itself is irrelevant. I do not understand why you are spending so much time discussing where it came from, rather then the policy itself. Quit using Ad hominem as its intended purpose is to discredit the source, and therefore discrediting the information that the source has present. Instead of attacking the source, attack the policy, as it appears that Obama is a socialist in capitolists clothing. Try discussing something more relevant to the argument presented, instead of irrelevant things.

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LOL i think that's too much for me to read tongue

pfftt..these threads are getting sooo long and most of the times end up being pointless wink

11 (edited by TheYell 03-Aug-2008 23:36:18)

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Her thighness. Bwahaha

Actually Limbaugh noted some Dem debate where Obama sat back and crossed his legs. And Rush said he was the only one onstage who could manage it.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Ohhh.... I see Zarf.
Your one of "Those."  Those who listen, but dont listen to talk shows.......OR.....

One of those that monitor the blogs.


You have no points though.......others have told you Mark Levine "Attacks" people.  Yea....he calls the Morons, "Morons."

ROFL.....by the way....thanks for the spelling lesson.  I didnt realize enamored was spelt, enamored.  I didnt use the PAST tense, there professor, I used the present.  Enamour.

ROFL.  wink

How many years befor you get your....ahem.....digrea ?

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13 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 04-Aug-2008 04:19:57)

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@Insignificant

Yes, I recognize that what I am doing could be perceived as ad hominem.  Except there is one slight exception: I acknowledge the credibility of the primary source, at which point the ideas of the post (Obama's history) are still valid, even if you agree with every word I say.  Black_Wing could simply say "You're right, Mark Levine throws personal attacks, rather than actually debating people, and we should all listen to Limbaugh or Hannity instead," at which point I would really have nothing more to do than watch the rest of this thread unfold.

@BW

If by "those" people, you mean "people who were listening to O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Hannity for about six years, plus Levine listener for about a few months," then yeah.  I am one of "those" people.  Honestly, I like listening to Limbaugh or Hannity once in a while... though my preference is O'Reilly (not that I 100% agree with any of them, really).  I'm not criticizing talk radio as a whole.  Only one guy, and only for reasons unrelated to the ideology as a whole.  Conservatism is better than to need idiots like Levine who degrade debate to personal name-calling.  That's why I'm calling for his rejection, not for any other reason.

As for the spelling error... I'll concede it because... well... I don't have that much time on my hands, and you could easily be right.  Whatever.  tongue


Oh, and the fact that I have no points?  I only have one point: The secondary source is illegitimate, and your endorsement of the secondary source is bad because of such.  Not attacking your actual Obama argument, mind you.

Now, why?  Let's go through a few examples:
"Her Thighness"
"John McLame"
"Barack Millhouse Obama"
"BJ Bill Jefferson Clinton"

Now, Limbaugh has some of these little nicknames, but not nearly as many distributed as Levine.  I've rarely, if ever, heard Hannity use any personal attack nicknames.

Do conservatives need to throw personal attacks at liberals to advance their argument?  Apparently not, since Hannity and Limbaugh are still around...

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public preschools are a good thing we have them in europeand it would help the economy because both parents can go to and 1 of them doesn't have to stay at home.

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>>Do conservatives need to throw personal attacks at liberals to advance their argument? <<

Based on this board, yes yes they do... so called conservatives here don't have actual arguments... further fuelled by the fact they listen to more morons who just spew forth meaningless gibber jabber

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16 (edited by Black_Wing 04-Aug-2008 12:19:40)

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@ Zarf...

Frankly, I admire Levine.  I believe his "SHOW" is all about being an attack hound.  I find it quite entertaining how he destroy es leftists on his show.  I dont know of any others that do accept leftists on their show more than Levine.

Yea....I like his nicks for politicals.  Its funny.

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi, noting her cosmetic surgeries.
Teddy "the Cape Cod Orca" Kennedy, noting his bloated ass on the sea.
Hillary "Her Thighness" Clinton, playing on royalty and her big ass.
Harry "the Body" Reid, noting his sickly looking physique.

Baraque "Millhouse" Obama, noting a major point that MANY dont know.  The Liberals made fun of NIXON by CONSTANTLY using his middle name "MILLHOUSE" to jab at him during his THREE presidential runs.  It actually started when he was the VICE of Eisenhower.

You will NOT find a finer constitutional scholar than Mark Levine.  His level of education, and years of experience in the Justice Dept. are amazing.  Forget about O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Hannity.  I enjoy their shows as well. 

BUT.....Levine is NOT a trained broadcaster.  He made the transition.  He is very knowledgeable in his field, and I STRONGLY urge all to read his book:

MEN IN BLACK   A great read on constitutional law, and the power of the judicial branch.

I guess is a matter of taste to attack because of his "SHOW."  I URGE you to dig into Levine's background.  Maybe you will understand him and his "SHOW" a little more, and find it more entertaining.


As to OBAMA and his history.....I have not found many others to delve into Obama's past, and pick apart his assault on the constitution as Levine has.

OBAMA is a scary dude.

As to the English lesson......ok.
As to the source, .... NO....originally, you went after the Levine angle as a source.   ... I ... corrected you on this.  The SOURCE is "Investors Business Daily."   Not Levine.

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Obama is a figurehead. When was the last time Obama said "This man is my friend. He's done nothing wrong. I won't condemn him. You attack him, you attack me." (Mccain too)

You think throwing everybody from Ludacris to Grandma under the bus builds loyalty and deference?  Under the Constitution he can't fire any member of Congress and he's not helping anybody get elected. He's going to get the brushoff when he comes with his agenda.

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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"LOL @ b/w trying to pass this off as his own post"

Yes, if this was actually written by BW it would be filled with "ROFL" pauses wink

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What is this thread is FILLED with...ROFL....SHippy....issssss

A bunch of mind numbed leftist robots that have absolutely no point what so ever.....Except....

A little Love for ole BW.... big_smile

and...

an attempt to attack the source.....that of course w/o even reading or paying attention.....got muffed by quite a few.



OBAMA is a socialist in Democrat clothing. ...... anyone....anyone one of you leftists....care to combat that statement ?

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ALSO making random words appear in CAPITALS is a great sign of a HIGH iq and obviously LEADS to that person being correct ON any topic s/he ARE talking ABoUt... ROFL....


>>OBAMA is a socialist in Democrat clothing. ...... anyone....anyone one of you leftists....care to combat that statement ?<<

Democrats are socialists in liberal clothing, it is only because the US is filled with idiotic cavemen such as yourself that you let them get away with calling themselves liberal....

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"ALSO making random words appear in CAPITALS is a great sign of a HIGH iq and obviously LEADS to that person being correct ON any topic s/he ARE talking ABoUt... ROFL...."

Man I must concur there..with no questions asked!

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"OBAMA is a socialist in Democrat clothing. ...... anyone....anyone one of you leftists....care to combat that statement ?"

Americans don't know what socialism is.

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SIMON & FOOL.

ROFL.....the same little school girls, coming to PLAY in Ole BW's sand box.

Girls, girls.....with to make my point any clearer ??   ROFL.
How about another post.....of nonsense ?


@ Alan.....true.  You Euros do have that distinction all wrapped up in a soviet style package to be opened later.....

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