personally the most fun i have had in the game is when our family was right in the middle at about 23rd to 12th, lots of fighting and activity during that.
i was in a family that won and we only had like three active time for about 3 days a piece, the rest was diplomacy done by the leader and it was some what boring, except for core cleaning.

wow i just had an epiphany, how about the top ten get a small galaxy for a month, to really see who would win, without allies, and without naps, and no rules.
in that case you could make the whole game like a play-off, as you win you get to go to the next galaxy.
i know this could go in ideas but no one ever listens there anyway.

with  4 spots in which to draft or friend in, it will be mostly a family of one or the other, depending on how many just get lucky in they're random, and then there all always those that have 50 accounts to keep trying.
so i thing that there will be some mixing but it will mostly be andro against MW in the same galaxy next round which seems intresting considering that a lot of the good people of andro are former andro, and the scum will have a new lesson to add to their resume (bottom of the barrel).

Cougar. Are you the Cougar that was in my Knights of MW fam? Or am I getting mixed up?

I'm getting tired of you saying everyone in Andro are saints and MW players are scum of the Earth :-/

RV, its high time you retired!

Look who's dancing!

*drinks milk*
ROFL Optical Illusions
*drinks milk and choaks*
ROFLMAO Genesis
*looks to see who's looking*

The round is won if you have biggest size at the end of the round. That doesn't necessarly mean they were the best fam, it just means they "won" the round. 

And breaking naps is illegal, it's just that you can't break ingame naps anymore and if you don't sign them ingame the mods consider them to be non-existant.

Best fam doesent always win and I dont mean best fam by who is in it and everyone sais there the best. I mean the fam that dominated the round then had some bad luck or something.

Planet count or nw doesent always say who won the round. I had a round long long time ago where we beat every top 10 fam in the gal in straight up war and finished 2nd in size because the fam had their allies give them 500 planets the last day of the round and we smoked that fam in war twice during the round. If u sit there and say they won the round then your smoking too much crack.

Ive sat there at eor refusing to cancel on smaller fams to assure p count victory or to get it. I treated small fams the same at day 1 as i did the last day. We always worked the whole round for a victory and more times then not went into the last 10 days with anywheres from 200-700 planet count lead over 2nd and 25% of the times finished 2nd in size because we just didnt care to rape small fams.

Wars determine who wins or who lost the round and not size or nw. Of course size is suppose to reflect that and thats where the idea of size is more important then nw to determine the winner because u were suppose to have wared more if not every top fam if u won u would be higher in p count size.

I dont recall seeing it as much the last 4 yrs, but in the earlier days it was more common to see a fam not evan in the top 10 in size finish 1st in nw due to maken super naps and just doing econ. Another reason why people didnt look at nw as any determining factor as to who won.

Its simple, if u won the wars then u won the round. Its when the fams do everything in their power to avoid waring the other top fams that results in the problems.

I got no idea what happened in Mw this round, but if the top 3 fams didnt war each other then only the fam who finished #1 in size can claim victory plain and simple. U should of thought about it when u made the stupid naps earlier in the round and dont come up with lame crap saying how u are the true winners. Be happy u did good or whatevre, but if u didnt fight the top fams and u did not win in size then u did not win.

Too often there are lamers claiming victory and this round is no exception

My computer always times my long posts, while threading at work and I loose a lot of my posts to the void.  Nonetheless I feel compelled to repeat a replica of a post that never was...

That was some solid crap that came out of PP

Eh, Callous,

(I shudder to suggest this, but here goes.)

If you have a long post, that you think may time you out of either IC or your server, copy it before you hit the submit button. If you did time out either way, you can sign back in, find the thread, and post your msg, by pasting it in.  Nothing lost that way. Whether it is a post to the forum, or a pm, or whatever, it works for me.

Yes. Sorry. Most folks look to size as the deciding factor.

Idk the history of the round, but see the nw and pc finishes you mentioned. My thots are: 1st in nw and 3rd in size beats 1st in size, and 4th in nw. But thats just me. Perhaps a fam second in nw and second in size should beat both.  To me, it aint just how many planets you own, but what you do with em. Building a strong infra, means you can support massive fleets and do the atks. Being planett fat, and nw lean, means you are a target.
Given the info you offered, I would expect a war between 903 and 910 to end badly for 910.

You also have to face the perceptions of others. Infra whores and jumpers tend to have way less respect than those you see gaining planets (by whatever means, including dishonourable)