1 (edited by The Nolio Show 28-Jul-2008 05:51:19)

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just want to say i like americans very much. I was at a wedding this weekend in new york, my cousin canadian married an american.

so i got in an argument with this one guy which started over nothing and he said.

" well who cares we kicked your ass in ww2"

and also

"we've been protecting you for 6 years, you and the [working] mexicans thats why our dollar is going down"

any americans see any truth in history on these two statements.

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wth?

We did not kick Canada's ass in WWII..

And Mexicans are a part of the reason for the decline in the dollar. They are also a reason wages are still as low as they are in America.

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Wages are low in America? I thought even factory drones routinely got wages of $10ph+?

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"well who cares we kicked your ass in ww2"

American Public school system I guess.  That's what happens when you can't afford to pay teachers who give a damn, "Yeah in WW2 we fought...somebody, I think it was Canada."

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lol Flint's right for the most part.

I don't blame the mexicans though. Just the government and buisnesses for taking advantage of them.

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the mexicans help your economy.

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"the mexicans help your economy."

they are too ignorant to understand that

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"And Mexicans are a part of the reason for the decline in the dollar. They are also a reason wages are still as low as they are in America."

Could you please explain why, rather than blaming an entire social group, as it reminds me strongly of a strategy against jews of some '30s german political party that shall remain anonymous..

As for those statements:

"well who cares we kicked your ass in ww2"

The fact he doesn't know what WWII is about is deploring.

"we've been protecting you for 6 years, you and the [working] mexicans thats why our dollar is going down"

Who's "you"? As far as I know, the Dollar's going down because of a crisis in the real estate, and poor management of that crisis, so that it doesn't get contained. tongue

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M1 is so simple, yet so hard for socialists to grasp.
The dollar is going down because of the supply of dollars the FED let out on the market.

Its to prop up the banks and institutions of finance that needed liquidity.  Is the root the housing crisis ??  somewhat, because for some reason the Federal Reserve and my socialist/leftist Govt.,....RUN BY BUSH !!! .... refuses to let the housing market vet itself out.

I always believed the DOLLAR was way over valued anyway.  NOW....its seems to be where it should be...globally.  Still, the balance of trade (Goods and services), less oil, is not where it should be.....but it sure is a lot closer.


As to your "Trip" to New York, and your lone conversation w/an idiot....... One Idiot does not identify the village.


Mexicans....yea...its their fault that they come to a great country to work and earn a decent wage.
What IS at fault is our border is open, and they come.  They leave their country, to live a fugitives in ours.  Yes, it hurts when the ship dollars out of the country....but it is hardly the problem that some would think.  A small meaningless ticks on the overall measure.

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10 (edited by Justinian I 28-Jul-2008 12:34:05)

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It's not that Americans are stupid, that's an unfair generalization. However, we have a very large working class, and only 25% of the population even have a college degree. What makes this really sad is that our universities really aren't that difficult to get through. I can tell you from personal experience, that not only do working class students complain about their education costs (which is actually affordable), the vast majority of them are very ignorant and religious. They flood the universities inspired with the American dream that one day they will live a better life, force the universities to drop their standards to accommodate the influx of stupid people, and then fail out financially broke. To give you an idea of how stupid working class people in America are. I was the only upper middle class student in a class of 30, and none of them were able to answer the professor's question of what the Cuban Missile Crisis was. I decided not to answer (correctly) for several seconds but I saw all puzzled faces. In that class I also gave a speech on real politik, assuming they would know who Otto von Bismarck, Metternich, and at least Henry Kissinger were, but I only had puzzled faces. My grade was dropped as being inappropriate for the audience - I over estimated their intelligence.

On the other hand, upper middle class Americans take their education seriously, and are able to reason abstractly. It comes to no surprise to me that most the high achievers, people pursuing science or other academic careers, came from upper middle class families in my experience. Furthermore, they are able to reason abstractly, and discuss intellectual topics.

I don't know how large the working class in Europe is, or how ignorant they are. But I can tell you that my upper middle class Danish friend said that working class Danes are also stupid. Though the US has a large working class, it is still unfair to represent all Americans as being like them. Upper middle class Americans are very different, as is the quality of our education. You should look at America not as a big lump of ignorant people, but as a country with an excess population of working class citizens. You should also consider that each state has unequal education. For example, South Carolina is pathetic, while Minnesota (which is culturally Scandinavian/German) has one of the best public education systems in the nation.

My point: Working class people are stupid everywhere, and the quality of education substantially differs state to state.

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"M1 is so simple, yet so hard for socialists to grasp.
The dollar is going down because of the supply of dollars the FED let out on the market."

Care to explain what M1 is? And please, do not start with the whole "socialists know nothing about economy"-argument, as it's absolutely false.

"Its to prop up the banks and institutions of finance that needed liquidity.  Is the root the housing crisis ??  somewhat, because for some reason the Federal Reserve and my socialist/leftist Govt.,....RUN BY BUSH !!! .... refuses to let the housing market vet itself out."

If Bush is socialst according to you, then you should really look up what socialism is all about.

"As to your "Trip" to New York, and your lone conversation w/an idiot....... One Idiot does not identify the village."

Carlo Ginzburg claims otherwise. In "The cheese and the worms", a much admired and praised historical work, he concludes that not the idiot himself, but the ignorance he spreads, does identify the village wink

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skilled laborers willing to work for 1/4 the union wage charged to American citizens who rely on social services for their medical care and education, so they can send the profit back home...yeah they're ripping us off.  between 12 to 20 million people like that.

and wtf kind of Bakunist are you if you don't like class and social group solutions tongue

Minnesota has suck ass schools just like anywhere else, and a good mechanic or plumber is just as savvy if not moreso than a professor.  That is why professors don't like having to take the car into the shop any more than you do.

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Oh right, Justinian, blaming it all on the "working class" and how ignorant they are, is crap. A proper educational system should solve all those problems, rather than amplifying them. You sound horribly social darwinistic there.

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> Alan Statham wrote:

> Oh right, Justinian, blaming it all on the "working class" and how ignorant they are, is crap. A proper educational system should solve all those problems, rather than amplifying them. You sound horribly social darwinistic there.>>
Regardless, in the US intelligence and income differ greatly from class to class.

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Wich seems to mean you live in a social segmented state where the rich get all the chances and the poor are just there to do the dirty jobs. Regretful...

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<Shaking my head in shame>

And I wonder why people think Americans are so stupid...

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America gave you Microsoft, atomic war,gangsta/pimp rap and George Lucas sequels

And your response was free trade with america

So who's been stupidest?

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"Care to explain what M1 is?"
if u dont know what M1 is then you better keep your hands off of green bugz big_smile

as to mexicans well if not for them then the prices in US would be even higher so you should be thankful they work for pennies

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"America gave you Microsoft, atomic war,gangsta/pimp rap and George Lucas sequels"

If it weren't for Microsoft I'd be working on a Macintosh right now running ClarisWorks, I thank Microsoft from the bottom of my heart that's not the case.

Atomic war lead to nuclear power and if the US didn't figure it out first the Russians or Nazis would have (much scarier thought).

Gangsta Rap is just a sign you don't hit your kids enough (Yeah I said it).

Yes the sequels were bad but we also wouldn't have had the originals.  What would the world be like without Star Wars?  Probably watching Star Trek.

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I guess you dont use Vista. And I got no problem with george lucas originals but he needs to be tasered if he revisits anything.

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i just brought this up because i found it very commicle.

the first comment came from when we were at the reception party the guy said well if you look at it like the all start game this is the homerun derby and then the wedding party is the actual game. then i laughed and said canada won the hr derby, not to be ignorant just how we won seeing as how hamilton broke a record in the earlier stage then canada ended up wining, then he got real defensive and brought up ww2

next comment came from when we were giving directions home my cousin send go under the tunnel and then left, it was a railroad track and not a tunnel which in turn made him lose it.

most americans are bright but they really don't know their surroundings, they don't know much history even about themselvs. i tried to buy a coffee with a canadian 5 dollar bill the girl laughed and said what the hell can i do with this.

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JA I actually couldn't agree with you more... that is what america is like(lived there fo 3 years.)

I'm upper middleclass in my country, and all the smartest people in my class are also the richest...
my mother is a microbiologist and my father is head of the biochemistry and childrens hospital labs in our city.

But since my country just escaped from communism 17 years ago we've been having an economic growth of an average 7.5%.

this has driven up the wages of less uneducated people like builders and factory workers while keeping the wages of teachers and doctors low. So you couldn't say that about my country. but it's quickly starting to change because the economy is slowing down.

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foriegn currency ain't legal tender in the USA

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When I mention "M1" and flooding dollars on the market.......and you have to ask what that is, in the same breath as lecturing me about SOCIALISTS not knowing economics......


You only solidify my point.

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> Black_Wing wrote:

> When I mention "M1" and flooding dollars on the market.......and you have to ask what that is, in the same breath as lecturing me about SOCIALISTS not knowing economics......


>You only solidify my point.



Hellooo.....

English isn't everyones first language here or have you forgoten that this is an international forum!?!

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