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![[TI] Primo](https://imperialconflict.com/forum/img/avatars/711.jpg)
it's funny
in the other thread Black Wing is yelling at the europeans for prosecuting war criminals that did order genocide, such as karadzic, and here flint is yelling at the europeans for not doing anything against genocide. really, you just scream whatever works best for you, doesn't need any touch with reality, does it.
I'm terribly sorry for the drunk comment I made there. I'd like to get rid of most of the post. But I'd like to stress that you find extremists everywhere. As for stormfront.org, they're extremists too, and they get away with it.. They fall under the whole "free speech right" (wich is utter crap, nazism and racism in general has costed more lives than islam extremists to this day)..
And yeah, my crap spelling, as my flaming was alcohol induced. I regret both, except the being drunk part, it was an awesome evening..
And Primo, I love your post!
But, well, obviously we do both. It's the sublime and ultimate form of being passive agressive..
> [TI] Primo wrote:
> it's funny
in the other thread Black Wing is yelling at the europeans for prosecuting war criminals that did order genocide, such as karadzic, and here flint is yelling at the europeans for not doing anything against genocide. really, you just scream whatever works best for you, doesn't need any touch with reality, does it.<
I think Flint and Black Wing need their own thread to debate wether or not us Yooropeeanz are taking action against genocide or not.
were u referring to my post einstien?? 
well, wfs, name one time free speech has been responsible for genocide.
how do you get rid of ppl's stupid ideologies if you repress their true feelings and thoughts.
You think that's funny you should read some of the hare-brained crap on that Stormfront forum. If I did not know better I'd swear that was a joke.
Primo...... You will have to clarify your statement about what I said.
If you think, I would be protecting mass killers, upset at anyone that does such things.........think again.
You are wrong with what you think.
> Einstein wrote:
> "This shows Europian Arrogance and laxivity in full. They will allow any genocide's so long as it don't affect them directly. They will tolerate any evil, so long as it does not affect them directly. they will ignore any evidence so long as the crime did not affect them. They will ignore it all, and live in their fairy world of ballerina stormtroopers french kissing 5 year old boys."
Like the US allowed the oppression of Zimbabwe's people during the undemocratic, rigged elections. Good point, like Britain and France"allowed" the Nazis to round up and slaughter millions in Europe? Yeah, we TOTALLY stood back and let that happen, it couldn't possibly have been to do with the fact that Germany were superior in almost every respect in terms of personnel, materiel and battlefield tactics and the fact that France had been conquered. Also, America was the country willing to let it happen as they only got totally involved in Europe when Germany declared war on America.
Stop being a hypocrite Flint.
France and Britain were dumb for declaring war on Germany for invading the Danzig, as they had historical claim to it from the not so distant past. If I lead either country, I would have let them smash Poland and not be afraid of them at all. I would be more afraid of the USSR, and use Germany as a buffer and counter balancing force to Stalin's power (after all, they hated each other and Stalin also invaded Poland).
The Brits and French knew nothing of realpolitik, or anything regarding pragmatic politics to begin with. In fact, they still act like a bunch of ideologues. Not that America does any better, sadly.
The was was coming Justinian anyway, their claim on Danzig had little to do with it. The historical claim however is very dubious, as the city itself is hardly german at all (defenatly not german in the way the germans of that time considered it). It is true that it was part of German empire before that, and yes it belonged to Prussia, but it had a majority of slavic people and some of them were involved in the 19th century pan-slavic movement. So it can only be claimed as german as much as we Belgians could claim Lille (in France) as ours..
The USSR, at that time, was less of a threat, as it was only industrialising for 2 decades at that time. It had no economy to match the west, and it couldn't even fabricate weapons that were the equals of western weapons. The only thing that kept the russians going in WWII was massive aid from the west and pure terror.
Thus, claiming you'd rather have the Germans as a buffer against the Soviets, is utter bollocks, and even inhuman, as social groups were being eliminated on an industrious scale. Although that happened only during the war, the seeds and the plans were there since the 30's..
Well that's perfectly irrelevant. It was for a long time claimed by Germany and Prussia, and it was a bridge between Germany and it's territory in Eastern Prussia. Of course, the war had political and expansionist motivations as well, not denying that. But there was no strategic motive for an alliance with Poland. Hitler did not even want war with Britain, he in fact respected them. He was concerned with expansion in Eastern Europe (with yes, a claim to the Germany territories there).
Though Russia was weak at the time, that is correct, its industrial capabilities were rapidly expanding under Stalin. There was a rational long-term fear of the USSR due to its ideology and rapidly expanding industry. Starting a fight was in no one's interest. If anything, Hitler would have bothered the eastern Europeans.
And of course, as you know, morality has no place in my political world view. Ever hear of realpolitik/Machiavellianism?
"Well that's perfectly irrelevant. It was for a long time claimed by Germany and Prussia, and it was a bridge between Germany and it's territory in Eastern Prussia. Of course, the war had political and expansionist motivations as well, not denying that. But there was no strategic motive for an alliance with Poland. Hitler did not even want war with Britain, he in fact respected them. He was concerned with expansion in Eastern Europe (with yes, a claim to the Germany territories there)."
How is that irrelevant? Hitler never really hid the fact he wanted a war to undo the "diktat von Versailles", he might have said he didn't want a war with the english, but his politics show a different thing. He would defenatly have warred the french over Alsace and Lorraine. Even the english couldn't have let them have that 
. Danzig was indeed a landbridge between Est-Prussia and the rest of germany, but that's hardly an excuse. K
"The historical claim however is very dubious, as the city itself is hardly german at all (defenatly not german in the way the germans of that time considered it). It is true that it was part of German empire before that, and yes it belonged to Prussia, but it had a majority of slavic people and some of them were involved in the 19th century pan-slavic movement. So it can only be claimed as german as much as we Belgians could claim Lille (in France) as ours..
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90+% of the people were germans?
"Danzig was indeed a landbridge between Est-Prussia and the rest of germany, but that's hardly an excuse. K
![[TI] ZoZferatu [Pw9]](https://imperialconflict.com/forum/img/avatars/2979.gif){kind=small}
So flint, you tried 'trapping' people again, which failed, again? Just to be on some sort of irrelevant token moral high ground. Your posts lack substance, they're always about the same but just adapted and drifting along with any topic whatsoever. We know by know you don't like islam, russia, europe, liberals, socialists, women, culture and just about anything that's not you. You do like soldiers, guns, fatburgers, george bush, fascist ideologies and amerikka.
We get it.
Stop trying, you always, always fail. The only moral high ground or problem solving you deserve merit for is eating yourself to death. But you even failed that. Posting some islamic website to back up your sad xenophobia is such a lame attempt at generalization it's insulting. Apologise, before i tell you how much you make me think of an obese admiral ackbar freak pointing at a computer shouting that it's a trap.
> Einstein wrote:
> This shows Europian Arrogance and laxivity in full. They will allow any genocide's so long as it don't affect them directly. They will tolerate any evil, so long as it does not affect them directly. they will ignore any evidence so long as the crime did not affect them. They will ignore it all, and live in their fairy world of ballerina stormtroopers french kissing 5 year old boys.
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true
> Elysian Thebes wrote:
> well, wfs, name one time free speech has been responsible for genocide.
how do you get rid of ppl's stupid ideologies if you repress their true feelings and thoughts.
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just ask the murderers
> Vampman14 wrote:
> > Einstein wrote:
> "This shows Europian Arrogance and laxivity in full. They will allow any genocide's so long as it don't affect them directly. They will tolerate any evil, so long as it does not affect them directly. they will ignore any evidence so long as the crime did not affect them. They will ignore it all, and live in their fairy world of ballerina stormtroopers french kissing 5 year old boys."
Like the US allowed the oppression of Zimbabwe's people during the undemocratic, rigged elections. Good point, like Britain and France"allowed" the Nazis to round up and slaughter millions in Europe? Yeah, we TOTALLY stood back and let that happen, it couldn't possibly have been to do with the fact that Germany were superior in almost every respect in terms of personnel, materiel and battlefield tactics and the fact that France had been conquered. Also, America was the country willing to let it happen as they only got totally involved in Europe when Germany declared war on America.
Stop being a hypocrite Flint.
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those points are ALSO true
> Justinian I wrote:
> Well that's perfectly irrelevant. It was for a long time claimed by Germany and Prussia, and it was a bridge between Germany and it's territory in Eastern Prussia. Of course, the war had political and expansionist motivations as well, not denying that. But there was no strategic motive for an alliance with Poland. Hitler did not even want war with Britain, he in fact respected them. He was concerned with expansion in Eastern Europe (with yes, a claim to the Germany territories there).
Though Russia was weak at the time, that is correct, its industrial capabilities were rapidly expanding under Stalin. There was a rational long-term fear of the USSR due to its ideology and rapidly expanding industry. Starting a fight was in no one's interest. If anything, Hitler would have bothered the eastern Europeans.
And of course, as you know, morality has no place in my political world view. Ever hear of realpolitik/Machiavellianism?
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true...except the last statement.
except that Hitler would have EVENTUALLY wanted the whole of that side of the world, if not the whole world
> [TI] ZoZferatu [Pw9] wrote:
> So flint, you tried 'trapping' people again, which failed, again? Just to be on some sort of irrelevant token moral high ground. Your posts lack substance, they're always about the same but just adapted and drifting along with any topic whatsoever. We know by know you don't like islam, russia, europe, liberals, socialists, women, culture and just about anything that's not you. You do like soldiers, guns, fatburgers, george bush, fascist ideologies and amerikka.
We get it.
Stop trying, you always, always fail. The only moral high ground or problem solving you deserve merit for is eating yourself to death. But you even failed that. Posting some islamic website to back up your sad xenophobia is such a lame attempt at generalization it's insulting. Apologise, before i tell you how much you make me think of an obese admiral ackbar freak pointing at a computer shouting that it's a trap.
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If he needs to apologize, so do you.
Both sides are "guilty".
(I could just choose the antonyms of the ALL things you said he hates to describe what you hate, and of the things he loves to describe what you hate)
No assumption was needed.
He doesn't have to specifically say it.
His forum comments add up to that.
"90+% of the people were germans?"
Yes, it seems I was misinformed there. Although, Palmer (our standard book for everything after 1789) is quite firm on it having a substantial slavic group..
"get a map... there still would have been a area controled by poland between rest of Germany and danzig"
The Danzig corridor the Germans claimed was more than the free-city, it was meant as a corridor that'd link both parts.
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