give flanders a chance. they shouldn't have to put up with retard half-brother wallonia.

define "retard" ET.. Wallonia has a better growing economy than Flanders the last 3 years, a great proof the economic revival plan for the region is working. And that's en exact repeat of what they did for Flanders in the 19th century..

Ofcourse, and then we can ruin you nubcakes from the inside once and for all.

Belgian politics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U_kfuvnMeg

[off topic stupidity]

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right

"Perhaps b/c all the money Flanders pours into wallonia via subsidies/taxes, etc?"

Exactly, as I said, it's part of a economic revival program, and it works. We in Flanders shouldn't complain about it either, as the walloons did the same in the 19th century for flanders

"cmon, let flanders join netherlands, restore the Greater Netherlands!"

The Greater Netherlands included Wallonia and Luxembourg (and some other territories) ET..

Benelux:
http://www.wiewaar.nl/Images/benelux.gif

Greater Netherlands:
http://angel.tctubantia.nl/tctubantia/2006/17provincien.jpg
(ignore the text)

WTF Alan are you editing ??
Its not OFF TOPIC.  It directly on topic.

Belgium is a conglomerate of bickering, back biting fiefdoms.
As large and Diverse as America is, We are all about America was my point.

You Mod-Kings just think you can do what ever the Frig you want.
Grow up.

As to Belgians Flanders Wallonia what ever.......   Where did I personally insult any Belgian in here ?

YOU SUCK Frenzy.....YET....
Thats ok to write what you want....because the Forum-GOD decided I was off-topic but your post was ok....not to edit.

Elysian can write that Walloon's are Retarded......I will correct you Elysian.....Most of the F-g(m)ods are Retarded on this forum.
Frenzy writes his post @ 13:53

But Forum asshole Mod Alan edits out my post @14:43    you are a JERK Alan.

It's (too) easy to blame the prime minister for failing. However, imagine trying to unite 3 different goverments within a country, all with their own agenda, their own political promises towards their voters. It's easy to understand here that the Belgian model is outdated and weighs extremely heavy on the population. We pay nearly as much tax as in finland, but get much much less in return. And why is this? Because we have 3 governements, and a system that isn't working in their decision-making.

"it doesn't show the dutch east indies on that one"

true that.. But back then they only held cities and weren't considered actual parts of the empire (that'd be an anacronistic way of thinking).

"WTF Alan are you editing ??
Its not OFF TOPIC.  It directly on topic."

No it isn't. An american situation isn't slighlty related with a belgian political crisis..

"Belgium is a conglomerate of bickering, back biting fiefdoms."

No it isn't... Little's left of the fiefdoms except when used to indicate parts of the country. The only fiefdom name that's actually relevant in the light of this discussion is "Flanders", but it's nowhere near what the actual county was. The meaning it has nowadays is given by WWI social groups who later turned to nazism. As much as I'm proud of being a heir to the great county Flanders was, I loath the meaning it has now. Also, the relationship between the different elements is completely different from the times of the different counties...

"It's (too) easy to blame the prime minister for failing. However, imagine trying to unite 3 different goverments within a country, all with their own agenda, their own political promises towards their voters. It's easy to understand here that the Belgian model is outdated and weighs extremely heavy on the population. We pay nearly as much tax as in finland, but get much much less in return. And why is this? Because we have 3 governements, and a system that isn't working in their decision-making."

I don't blame it on the incapabilty of the prime minister, I blame it on the silly and utter haughty attitude the dutchtalking people take nowadays. It's time that the "flemish" people (in this discussion it's used to indicate the people in the dutchtalking area) start to realise that things have changed since WWI, and that they now are intimidating rather then the french.

"i don't know about all walloons. i know some circles suggest wallonia is decrepit. would you like some articles?"

It is indeed, yet it is innovating and we ought to give it a chance rather than abandoning them. The European Union's economical plan for Ireland was the inspiration for the economic plan for Wallonia. Ireland is now one of the best faring countries in Europe, and as I said before, the Walloon economy is booming too..

BW, the European Union donated heavily to get their economy growing. A roadmap was set out in a dialectic discussion between the irish government and the EU. Indeed, the Irish government did its part by changing laws etc but the EU made sure the money was there to make the roadmap happening. This is why so many Eastern European countries are so eager to join the EU..
But to return to the topic: it's very similar to the Walloon scenario

Here's a linky or 2:
http://www.eustructuralfunds.ie/viewdoc.asp?fn=/documents/eu_structural_funds/overview/structural_funds.htm&mn=euse&nID=3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Tiger#EU_Aid

because the Amercians do suck.  We all hate Amercians.  Amercia is a latrine of a country full of ignorant peasants.  And they're fanatically violent and we should have nuked their ass after 9/11.