Topic: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

After G.W. Bush removed a presidential executive order, made by Clinton, barring off-shore oil drilling oil prices have started to collapse. The largest ever drop in oil prices has occurred and all the major groups are now bearish to oil.

This is going to be a bumpy ride, bout as big as the internet bubble and the housing bubble, this time consumers here will benefit for sure wink

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2 (edited by Gladiator 20-Jul-2008 02:31:03)

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

ughh yeah, i wouldn't excpect the oil prices to stay the same or continue to fall for too long though,

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Actually, Daddy Bush made the presidential executive order.

All we need now is Congress...ahem...(yea, sure)...to do the same.

DEMOCRAT leaders:
"we have given the oil companies 800 million acres of non-productive areas to drill in.  Why not drill there....for nothing."

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Why should oil companies have an interest in lower oil prices?

The inmates are running the asylum

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

They wouldn't.

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Keeping up appearances I suppose.

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Election year smile

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

right on da money, nolio

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

hehe.... 

Im just wondering....do any of you boneheads ACTUALLY have any sense of business ??

Explain to me, why any company, selling any product, would want prices to be high ??

Even in the case of an item as inelastic as oil.   
Do you boneheads even understand the economic concept as simple as elasticity ?

Oil companies dont OWN the oil.  Oil companies dont TAX the oil.

unreal.

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

so you're telling me diamonds aren't sold at artificially inflated prices?

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

There's no "need" for a diamond by consumers, aside from possibly some industrial uses.  If the product's purchases are simply based on wants, then it removes the possibility of artificial inflation of any significant amount, because the people can simply say "no."

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Only when a SOCIALIST thinks that the price isnt fair.

Then its "Artificially Inflated."

Demand/supply has nothing to do with it.....ESPECIALLY.....with an item as In-Elastic as Diamonds.


Better watch out Elysian......you may be edited for being "Off-Topic" by Alan the F-god.
This is about Oil, not diamonds.

By the way Elysian, are Wallons really retarded ?

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

> Black_Wing wrote:

> By the way Elysian, are Wallons really retarded ?


Trolling?

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Land locked peoples tend to be retarded

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

"Better watch out Elysian......you may be edited for being "Off-Topic" by Alan the F-god.
This is about Oil, not diamonds."

What Elysian wrote hardly warrants an editing, as he was simply making a comparison on how diamonds are priced compared to oil.

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

well, bw, you asked why any company, selling any product, would want prices high?

i thought the answer was obvious. not long ago, ppl were accusing iran of making disturbance in the mid-east to effect a higher price per barrel; iran, in lieu of a company, would stand to gain from those prices.

oil companies retire their execs with 450 million pensions, etc

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

People people, Black_Wing is unable to get such things Elysian. If he can't understand it then he'll start with... "trolling" as you seem to call it. Hence his numerous... "trollings".

And ofc, if it is a product that you sell that everyone needs and there is zero to none competition (YAY FOR having everything private! silly) then the companies want to have the prices as high as possible...

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Competition drives prices down. This is how come Walmart can offer $5 generics. It took real competition to reach that point.

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

dragon, i don't the problem is being privatized. it's trusts, monopolies, cartels that are the problem. nationalization of business rarely leads to better efficiency.

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

if oil prices are good for a "oil" company depend on what part of the process that company belongs too

do they drill it, refine it or sell it,

BW you can't simply say none of these sectors make lots of money off high oil prices, and no one else can say all of them definetly make a lot of money with high prices

and that's only a general overlook, if you go into details, there's a lot of different sub-categories to everything, the money is lost in many places and the profit a lot of the times is sometimes sacrificed, to boost another category

too complexed to just say, make lots of money or not

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

BlackWing is a Economic Scholar.
You all just cant manage an exchange w/the master of the Market Economy.

No one wishes to answer my questions.......therefor, you all try to attack poor little ole BW.   big_smile
Its ok though.  Im a big boy, I can handle it.



Ummm,  Boneheads.....my "Off-Topic" comment goes to another god-F-mod, waving their magic wand.
Glad you all made my point for me.  Thanks.  tongue

When IRAN rattles their sabre, that is a pressure on demand.  This increases price.
When the US President comes out, and eliminates the presidential order on no off shore drilling.....this releases the pressure on the Demand, and Price Decreases.

This is the market at work.  Short-Term or long term.

When a butch of boneheads say that the present output of oil is at a peak, and their socialist-elite media sounding boards, reinforced by Environmental Nazis like Al Gore, spout how bad oil use is........

This is a pressure on Oil demand, and a scare tactic to push oil prices higher.

The Market at work.


All the oil companies do is compete to extract the oil, refine the oil, and deliver the oil as efficiently as possible, while maintaining the demand from the economy.

This is the market at work.

Oil companies DO NOT set price.
Oil Companies DO NOT OWN the oil.
Oil companies compete w/each other, this keeps the oil companies maximizing the product.


Dont you socialists understand ?

@ Gladiator, I am completely lost on what you are trying to say.
Want to try again ?

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Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

I think I know what he's saying.

The term "oil company" is pretty damn ambiguous.

If an oil company is the company actually pulling oil out of the ground and selling it on the global crude oil price, its perspective on oil prices is different from that of the company that buys that crude oil and refines it, or the compnay that distributes it locally.


That what you were trying to say, Gladiator?

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23 (edited by Gladiator 21-Jul-2008 02:04:59)

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

exactly

and it's not even just these 3 sectors, if you look closely into the drilling/refining/selling businesses, there's many more sub-categories to each one as well, all of whom have a different outcome to the different prices of Crude oil

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Its funny how liberals claim to be smarter than their conservative counterparts but most of them dont know jack about the economy. The oil companies dont want higher oil prices. that would be stupid. Higher prices drive down demand which means you sell less. you make less money from oil being higher priced. For once i agree with BW calling you names such as "bonehead" because your statements were bonehead statements.

i wish there was a world were the right wasnt self-righteous and the left wasnt social elitists.

That is the view of a libertarian big_smile

Re: Oil prices plummet after G. W. Bush eliminates executive order...

Gladiator.

Im not saying anything. 

even IF what you are saying is true, there are multiple companies at work.

So X company refines gas as sells it at the X company rate.

Y company refines gas and sells it at Y company rate.

Z company needs gas.  They buy it on the market.  Basically, who ever can meet their demand for what Z company feels is a fair rate.

the Market at work.


When a commuter sees the needle on E for the gas tank, they drive to the Gas station to fill up.
Do you go to A station selling Gas at X rate ??
or
Do you go the B station selling gas at X Plus ??

Well, I would go to A station selling at X, why should I pay the premium rate of B stations X plus for the same product ??


Is this concept So difficult to understand ??



Its easy to think everyone in the world is out to get you ...... and I will just blame everyone for my woes in life.

Its that fault, it this fault.....


The fault of high oil, and the US pickle of buying 70% of our consumption from other countries is the fault of the Leftists, lead by the environmental Wackos.

Its NOT the fault of Oil companies.  Or any company involved in the oil industry.
Thats just sounding off what the Media Elite, allies of the Environmental Nazis and the Academia Losers, feed to you boobs.

And you all believe it, with an ounce of logic.

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