Topic: A "classic" galaxy is opening.

A 3rd galaxy will be opening up alongside the Supernova restart.  The details so far are as follows:

  • Morale formula: "classic" (pre-2015)

  • Players can choose to stay in fam after round.

  • Galaxy Size: 100x100

  • Systems: TBD

  • Families: TBD

  • Drafts: none

  • Length: 6 weeks

  • Market Delay: none

  • Offensive Operations Delay: none

  • Starting Resources: original

  • Max Defense Stations: 1

  • Cores: none

Additionally, there are 2 pieces that you can vote on here:

* Disabled In-Game NAPs: Vote here
* Family size: Vote here

Lastly, "Illegal" Alliances will again be allowed.  This is admittedly non-classic but it's part of a wider approach to exposing/fixing the game's balance issues.  Please keep any/all feedback regarding IA in this thread.

All of the above (except for IA) is subject to change, but this is the current plan.  Also please note that the 2 votes are not binding.  Meaning, the vote "winner" is likely to win the decision but not guaranteed as your guys' discussion/reasoning will also be considered.

The new galaxy will open for registration in roughly 1 day, and starting 5 days later.

Feedback regarding the above is welcome and encouraged.

Thanks.

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updated: changed 4 weeks to 8 weeks on account of starting resource drop (thanks chat peeps for pointing this out)

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8 weeks is long ... one of the main reasons I never bothered to play Milky Way, hell 6 weeks is longish 5 weeks seem to be a good medium.

However as start up will be slow I guess it could work, should provide entertainment for atleast 2-3 weeks.

Still don't understand why we're using 100x100 120x120 min would be better, but just my thoughts.

If your taking out ingame naps (which is ok who really cares) why not enable allies and stop this IA bs ? The players in this game are typically afraid of competition so you'll always wind up with 2 big alliances instead of a galaxy fighting for dominance as intended.

I couldn't find this in feedback, guessing we could post here.

~ Cloud

"I Cannot Awake From This Nightmare As Long As You Exist..."

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Also 8 weeks on a 100x100 map is too much people will lose interest around the 4-5th week once the top families have controlled the map, than it's just waiting games for people to save and cancel naps which proves to be the most boring parts of the round, and the leaves the bottom families with nothing to do except go inactive

~ Cloud

"I Cannot Awake From This Nightmare As Long As You Exist..."

Re: A "classic" galaxy is opening.

Enabling in-game alliances requires more work as the code there is broken, which would mean we'd have to wait to open the galaxy with no ETA on the feature being fixed.  People want another galaxy but also want in-game alliances.  Unfortunately we can't have it both ways right now.

IA isn't changing, feedback for that can be found by following this link.

The round length is a risk in either direction: starting resources will make it take longer to ramp up which would make 4 weeks not enough time to do anything.  If people dominate early then 8 weeks would be too much time.

It's possible 6 weeks would be best, but it's also possible that 10 or 12 weeks would be best.  Really, there's no way to know for sure without doing it.  Anybody's guess on this can end up being accurate, but at this point it's still a guess.

That detail is still up in the air though.  I'll be adjusting things at the end based on all of the feedback here, so if any of you reading this feel strongly one way or another please let us know.

Thanks for your input, Cloud.

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The opening/start of this round will be delayed slightly, will post another update tomorrow.

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no offensive pie but i think opening more galaxies will just make the game worst.. u need players to commit to a full round.. instead of lookin at the first week.. what was that shit that had family equally distanced or something no fam was closer then 8 ticks from the next. i dunno its several ideas maybe make a forum for players to voice their ideas and pick the 3-4 u like most and stick with them.. but i can still tell u this.. if the alliance code is so FUBAR why would u allow ia's never in IC history has it been allowed that ruined the entire setup.. i dunno why u couldnt leave the setup the way its been 8 fams 8-10 players and 1 draft and go from their.. dont half ass make changes if the alliance option is broken dont try and implentment IA's to temp fix the issue.. fix it all the way or leave it as is..

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Re: A "classic" galaxy is opening.

There's an ideas forum already like you describe here, and a feedback thread for IA specifically here.

This thread is for the upcoming galaxy.  Your guys' general feedback is welcome and appreciated but please keep it in the existing forums/threads.

Thanks.

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{Black Mafia} IC Death wrote:

no offensive pie but i think opening more galaxies will just make the game worst..


As far as I can tell, another new galaxy has been the most requested thing since SB opened

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You_Fool wrote:
{Black Mafia} IC Death wrote:

no offensive pie but i think opening more galaxies will just make the game worst..

As far as I can tell, another new galaxy has been the most requested thing since SB opened

I am not going to play this one. I was looking forward to a another Galaxy, but with a different game-mode. Like:
- King of the Hill
- First to 100 planets
- First to 1 mill NW
- HC Last man/team standing (with auto removal)


The one planet Tri thing of april of last year was quite fun.

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Re: A "classic" galaxy is opening.

We'll be rolling out some more variants over time.  People have definitely expressed interest in variety.

As far as this galaxy goes, it's going to be delayed at least another day.  There are a few things I want to fix before we open it up.

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No drafts? So much for 'classic'  tongue

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Drafting wasn't part of the original game.  I suppose "classic" means different things to different players. smile

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keep up[ the work pie.. as always cant make everyone happy.. atleast ur doing something.. besides all they do its bitch cause its not what they want.. there will be still be those who bitch even if they get their way lol

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I love it, a classic galaxy. I'm not bitching... Just saying that I think for MW for example, it has been with drafts longer than without.
And I guess tons of people enjoy playing with randoms every round, I on the other hand want to play with people I chose.

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More variety is coming. smile

This one should be launching within the next day.  Latest change is to 6 weeks.

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The only thing which bothers me is the IA allowed included. Simply because personally I don't like it, and I'm failing to see how it is helping you to fix balance issues. Certainly when there are already two other galaxies where this rule has been applied.

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0rion wrote:

The only thing which bothers me is the IA allowed included. Simply because personally I don't like it, and I'm failing to see how it is helping you to fix balance issues. Certainly when there are already two other galaxies where this rule has been applied.

I feel the same way but I think we've complained as much as we can as far as being heard goes. Allowing IAs and having a morale system are both ways to achieve game balance. As far as I'm concerned they work horribly together at the same time. I've never played with the "old" morale system but maybe it'll be better than the combination of new morale and IA that we have now. I kind of think that no morale and IA allowed would be better though.

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i was excited

until i saw

"illegal alliances - allowed"

looks like time to quit playing for a while

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always a good attitude, if you can't win, quit

As far as IAs, I like it because it happens anyways when it's not allowed but it's very difficult to prove. SO then the players who follow the rules are at a disadvantage. At least this way it's a level playing field.

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Artic wrote:

i was excited

until i saw

"illegal alliances - allowed"

looks like time to quit playing for a while


Pie likes IAs.. well maybe not likes.. but finds they need to be in game play.. they are not going anywhere, anytime soon.

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

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yeah its his pet failed experiment due to his lack of game knowledge.

“I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”

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It's funny how allowing 'illegal alliance' is in itself already contradictory, as by allowing it, it's not longer illegal tongue

Anyways, I'm sure there is some plan behind it. Gotta give Pie some credit for trying out new stuff (which never happened at all before Pie took over)... And I think Pie is quite well aware that playing with IA is not working very well, but as mentioned above, playing without 'allowing IA's' means some people play with, and some without...

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Yeah, that's why I have to keep putting it in quotes.  I'd rather we call it "unofficial" alliance but people (clearly) don't always like change and technically a game-wide decision on the matter hasn't yet been officially made.

Warhammer: cheap shots are silly; we're more mature than that, right?  I've paid my dues as an attacker/leader/mod/dev and now I continue to put in time as the admin.  I don't need to prove my game knowledge to anybody.

Haters gonna hate.

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you continuing this bogus illegal alliance lets your game knowledge speak for itself pie.......