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Topic: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Hi everybody,

A change to bring back the old morale formula is nearly finished.  This will now be a galaxy setting, meaning we can roll it out for new galaxies without disturbing currently-running ones.

However, we still *can* introduce this mid-round if people want to.  It's just a matter of getting a vote.

So with that said, please vote below.

Also, for details regarding exactly *how* it will be changed, please see this post.

Thank you.

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

I don't think we should do this midround. It would mess up the fams who are already playing a low nw strategy.

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3 Reply by DustyAladdin (edited by DustyAladdin 10-Feb-2017 13:33:21)

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Can we get a little more information about what this change would entail? It's hard to tell exactly what you're proposing here. The current morale system is entirely family-based so having alliances again might throw the ability of the current system to balance the game completely off.

If the changes will make the system better (as vague as that is), then I don't see any reason to wait.

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Old formula has no link with nw or fam nw. Just size related.

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

I dont think people plan to play low nw strat tongue

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

DustyAladdin wrote:

Can we get a little more information about what this change would entail? It's hard to tell exactly what you're proposing here.

Sure.  LiGhTGuNs is correct: it's a reversion to the old morale calculation that only considers player-to-player differences in planet count.

Additional notes from the other thread:

I like pie wrote:

The update will not (yet) bring back the following:

  • protection rules: players will still be able to attack whoever they want, limited only by the (old) morale formula

  • sentinel tag: is not yet ready

  • spells/ops: will still be bound by morale and not the original hard limit

  • warcry: is not yet ready

I think whether or not it is "better" will remain to be seen, as per the list above we're not reverting the entire change yet (still more work to do there) which makes this a hybrid that we haven't tried before.

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Translucent Night wrote:

I dont think people plan to play low nw strat tongue

Example 1: Not going pop banking is because of morale.
Explample2: no infra on atrackers

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

No.
As small player in SN i can play longer. I like this morale formula.

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9 Reply by Devilz (edited by Devilz 10-Feb-2017 16:03:15)

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Either end galaxy and change it or keep the same and dont switch.

As agreed.

Stratagry are in place.
No poppers no infra no building over 100%
Will you let people change their races if you change morale forumula?

Why give up 1% morale loss on the top teams wink

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

wait...r u bringing atk 35% morale rule?

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Do you mean the 35% NW protection rule?

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

I'd like to see the actual formula.

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Wouldn't be fair to different families set strategies, unless the round were to be reset

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

It's looking like we'll keep it as-is.

Thanks for the input everybody.  Also, another galaxy will be opening up around the same time SN restarts, so you'll be able to play using the old formula soon enough.

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15 Reply by Cjay92 (edited by Cjay92 11-Feb-2017 06:44:05)

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Was there not at one time a 48hr rule on retail attacks, and wasn't it between attacker and victim when it came to a smaller family member attacking a larger family

Ie:
7th place family member score 1,354,263

Attacks

  2nd place family member score 5,764,994

Only the attacked in the larger family had 48hr  to retail on the attacker from the smaller family, but he was allowed to attack as many times as he wants to during the 48hs. But none of his family was able to due to the nw rule and if the smaller family member/player retailed on the retail. Then the clock would just restart for a new 48hr

I  seem to remember that this rule was to protect the smaller family from getting ass raped, because a noob was clearing core, as he had been told to keep it clean.


Now if this happens. The whole 2nd place family just feeds on them.

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

Yeah some of that stuff will need to be rebalanced, but is't part of this update.

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

you should remove the 35% nw rule, where you can't attack someone smaller than you. That thing was abused so badly, please do not put that back in

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Re: Vote: SB-27 Morale Change

The other pieces will be added back as options so players can vote on their inclusion.  The galaxy join/setup process will be changing to allow players more opportunities for direct input.

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