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Despairridge wrote:

Also Pie i don't think it makes the game bad that older players do well as every game is the same. Call of duty more you play better you get, doesn't mean the game design is bad. People will always moan when they lose and crying on forums isnt feed back its childish. Rather then insulting players and moaning give an idea that helps to fix a problem you see rather then insult people and moan when you have to get hit in a game based on FIGHTING. Don't moan get even and make yourself better at the game and move on. I came back 5 rounds ago and had to learn alot from people in this chat now and others. I 1st played like 10 years ago when i was 14 and i got smashed all the time. I'm not trying to dig at you but sometimes the real thing that ruins these games are people who don't like to lose. Anyway keep up good work pie and look forward to more people hitting me in future rounds big_smile RANT ENDED

thank you; well said... fyi i dont mind losing - i deleted to keep them from taking all my planets and gaining them against my allies.

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Yes everyone, i did agree to nap with Raven, but he did CANCEL the offer, attacked our ALLIANCE member and gained 2 extra planets near me. After that i could not trust you - therefore u got cleared.  You are new to this game, but if you act like this in future, im sure there are more players, who would have hit you for that like i did, no ?!?

If this is lying and backstabbing - so yes i did that, you happy?


sorry lacoste/munder... i thought ive said something before...

at this time; my opinion is that you shouldve asked me why i was attacking or why i cancelled - but i wont hold it against you - ive said as much to a few others - but i wanted to make it clear here since i must not have said so before...

as far as the lying - i am saying now that you werent intentionally lying as i had thought but i still feel as though big tex was since neither of you included me into the greater alliance (or you guys decided since i was knew i was garbage and didnt want me - but shoulve made it clear i wasnt an ally when i cancelled the nap - which again was accidental - ask the mods if you dont believe me when i say i also accidently sent nap to egg nog; but got it removed)

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I like pie wrote:

The game is too difficult for new players.  Regardless of whether or not you were lied to, if players ever feel like their round is ruined it means the game is badly designed.

Despairridge wrote:

Also Pie i don't think it makes the game bad that older players do well as every game is the same. Call of duty more you play better you get, doesn't mean the game design is bad.

I completely agree with Despairridge. Any decent game takes a shitload of experience to be good at, if you take that out, we might as well roll dices and determine who wins by who rolled most sixes.

Really Pie, never think that the game is not right, because long time player are being better at the game - if you change that, you will loose all the player that put in years and years calculating the exact best starting strategy, mastering massive attacks, defining the exact numbers for optimizing income etc. Just make sure that the new players get an opportunity to learn the game in an environment where they don't get beaten to shit. However, some new players don't want that, so I wouldn't enforce it either (which was the whole issue with Virgo back in the day).

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104 Reply by LordRaven (edited by LordRaven 20-Jan-2017 14:28:27)

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Tequila with Salt wrote:

If I have IA with one member of Mag7 group, is that means I'm part of all group? yikes

Common, it is not a rocket science. Use your brains!

Get a small guy (who just joined galaxy) with some fleet to do retakes on planets they passed to napped players. 7-8 well place portals will give good coverage of most of the galaxy. Then it's just market aid.

For the sake of fun I would help funding such a venture wink

first... i had ia with two of them at beginning of round; and not until after i napped with c did big start attacking me...

how am i supposed to know who they are ia with already or after me if they dont tell me? i dont...

just like i didnt tell them who i was ia with - but i didnt attack them either - thats the thing - if i have ia with you i dont attack you - even if the whole fking gal wants me to... but big is not like me so whatever

and second...
youd need to fund them over a million droids to start (according to lone cat/tiger) so might need to just agree they won this round through shadier tactics of their not so nice player(s)

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105 Reply by LordRaven (edited by LordRaven 20-Jan-2017 14:35:40)

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Hala wrote:
I like pie wrote:

The game is too difficult for new players.  Regardless of whether or not you were lied to, if players ever feel like their round is ruined it means the game is badly designed.

Despairridge wrote:

Also Pie i don't think it makes the game bad that older players do well as every game is the same. Call of duty more you play better you get, doesn't mean the game design is bad.

I completely agree with Despairridge. Any decent game takes a shitload of experience to be good at, if you take that out, we might as well roll dices and determine who wins by who rolled most sixes.

Really Pie, never think that the game is not right, because long time player are being better at the game - if you change that, you will loose all the player that put in years and years calculating the exact best starting strategy, mastering massive attacks, defining the exact numbers for optimizing income etc. Just make sure that the new players get an opportunity to learn the game in an environment where they don't get beaten to shit. However, some new players don't want that, so I wouldn't enforce it either (which was the whole issue with Virgo back in the day).

i agree... i am not experienced in the sense of playing for a long time; but ive had the most experienced and in my opinion near bests if not best players telling me what to do and how to play...

several times, i was told i shouldnt have agreed to the ia with big texas... and each time i said, no its ok i told him i was new, and he only said no nap because he thinks ill take his shares... and they were like... well good luck - this was of course my warning - but i gave him the benefit of the doubt because again, im new and didnt think lying would be something to deal with in a game like this - its just unnecessary and only came into play this one specific round - any other round wouldve meant i kept attacking him (in beginning of round) until he signed nap or beat me back... as i did with many others - again im simply pointing out that hes a liar - not complaining about tactics or ias or mechanics or even the fact that he tricked me - well played - but hes a liar so here i am...

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106 Reply by LordRaven (edited by LordRaven 20-Jan-2017 14:46:18)

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For a "starter" galaxy to have illegal alliances where 6 people can gang up on 1 new guy is bad design.  The current state of SN is about 1/3 or maybe closer to 1/2 of the active people in the entire galaxy are in the mag 7 alliance.  I'm pretty sure there isnt another alliance even half the size of the mag 7 alliance.  With the morale rules and passing planets off to alliance members that are napped to the enemy it's impossible to actually fight them.

My summary for this round is the IA test round didnt work.  If you want to allow alliances in the future, make allies official and limit the amount of allies so it it at least a somewhat fair fight and people like lordraven dont get their round ruined.

i agree almost...

make ias hidden but real - so ias would be alliances made that no one can see - as they shouldve been...

then when they are allowed.... there is an in game mechanic behind it

PS - edited: i didnt see about the code being broken at first... so my bad - i guess its tech a game design thing if you fix alliances and then allow ias in game... but still; guys like bigtex will lie about other things to anyone that listens so at some point youll have to concede he is just trying to find the new loop hole to win...

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Cjay92 wrote:
LordRaven wrote:

Not a complaint - just an FYI - they are liars and backstab - watch yourselves


Sounds like a complaint to me,
after all you read my view on what farming is, now how's that working out for u.

ha ha ha... i did read it; and i said youre complaining... because i deleted to prevent them from farming...

i am calling big a liar for letting me believe he wouldnt farm me... does that clear it for you cjay?

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BIGTEXAS wrote:

just for the record.. i did not lie or back stab .. swear on my 5 kids.. pie you have done well with all ur work.. u cant make everyone happy  and you know this.. theres always a victor and a loser..i hope we have more galaxies to play in sooner than later.. satrburst is harder i think cause u have to rely on people more for infra and aiding compared to super nova you are on your on .. except this round u can IA.. it gives us a chance to work with people outside our family .. it has its good points and its bad points.. everyone is intitled to play with their own strats and how they want to .. just how it is.. pie keep up the good work again and thank you for all ur time spent


dude... thats like saying "im not an asshole" - you dont get to decide that... you do lie and backstab... thats what its called when you tell someone one thing and think another knowing it will affect the outcome of the conversation...

the part where you agreed to be peaceful with me instead of letting me keep attacking you is the part that im calling a lie and youre ignoring...

the backstab part is where you attacked me instead of asking me why i was attacking a member of "OUR" alliance - but since it was only "YOUR" alliance, you attacked me and now claim "OUR" alliance was BS...

so yea youre a liar and backstabber... and its not a matter of lying to gain support - i was actually doing the things i said i was and so there are real accounts of what i am now saying happened... my allies actually asked me to attack you and i actually said no... way before the battle with c or the cancellation of munders nap...

the best thing is that you say "not a liar/backstabber" then just go on to talk about some other bs - which is EXACTLY what a liar does to get the attention focused off of them

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Lone Tiger wrote:

lol.  Babe is right.

Mag8, because I'm now the 8th member.

proving yet again... you guys lied to me from the start... why wasnt i included as a member if every single person in the top ten was nap or ia with me already?

where/same/simple were the only ones jumping that i hadnt really communicated with, and one of the 3 i was trading with and got confused between teh names and fought wolf over...

i was literally the only person in top ten you guys had left to beat up on... as you said, frosty joined you too...

fking bullshit - abosolutely fking bullshit

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So... apparently im dumb because i didnt see this before... but basically mag7 was made up of angels...

so they were most likely getting revenge on me since 79 is destroying them in SB...

excellent timing; and i almost wouldve missed it... but since i deleted, i have been paying more attention to who is who...

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Babe wrote:

if u cant beat'em, join them right? yikes

If you can't beat'm, change strategy. And beat them.

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112 Reply by LordRaven (edited by LordRaven 20-Jan-2017 16:47:15)

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0rion wrote:
Babe wrote:

if u cant beat'em, join them right? yikes

If you can't beat'm, change strategy. And beat them.

i did... i deleted...

in case youre missing true problem i have with your suggestion, i thought i had joined them... and i am not sure what i am supposed to say to make that plain...

you were in an ia right? so what if they just started attacking you? would you still be saying youre in their alliance? or would be just like me wondering wtf you have to do in order to "join" them...

i asked to be a team, i was told yes; i asked for naps; and was told no... if you know of any other form of communication that can result in me being on the fking team they were on... i wouldve liked to have known it before playing this game...

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0rion wrote:
Babe wrote:

if u cant beat'em, join them right? yikes

If you can't beat'm, change strategy. And beat them.

on a side note... heres are the only two possible basic starts of a strategy...

-have a team

-dont have a team


the first one was mine... which results in "joining"; the second one was not mine.. which results in "fighting"...

so tell me Orion, when my strategy was ALREADY to join them...  AND i actually thought i had employed that strategy ALREADY... and they attacked me while low on morale (during which i lost half my fleet), making it impossible to fight back - even to retake my own planets in the same tick (which i couldnt do because they busted the port)...

when all this was going on... your suggestion is to change from trying not to fight them to what? fight them? like no thanks, i spent the whole round not preparing to fight them; so the only possible course of actions is to have my allies attack them too... but why? why should everyeone start fighting everyone simply because big tex is a liar about our alliance?

so like i said, i just deleted... why go through the bs pretending they were sorry and we can be friends again... just so the next week he can do the same fking thing and simply lie about it then too... i get it... lacoste was being friendly... but they didnt bother telling me about the other 4 peeps... so they wouldve easily had them start attacking me after i agreed to any terms lacoste offered... and i wouldnt know they were ia so i wouldnt think anything of it... only now though... because i made such a big deal about big texas and lacoste teaming up, does it even get mentioned...

i can almost see the plan in my minds eye...

c attacks; i nap with him; big attacks, i nap with him; lacoste attacks, etc; etc; etc....

only big tex failed his attacks (or wasnt trying to take them i guess), so i retaliated thinking id get teh nap this time... and instead was overkilled by lacoste... who then proceeded to be "understanding"... aka willing to agree to some bs while his allies are sending fleets - then even if i agreed to some crazy terms, would all attack me and claim ignorance - each taking plenty and claiming same shiit... "oh, you attacked my ally, i can be understanding" - no youre all doing the same fking thing...

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Consider us all beta testers for a new game that pie is creating, a derivident from a old game. Pie is thinking about the 50 thousand or more players that will potentially play his new work of art. There must be some fincial gain for his hard work efforts. Obviously us 90 or so players currently playing are not funding anything for him or barely minimum. The greatest thing pie could do for the ic community is bring in players by the thousands and to do that he will have to change a large portion of the game that is failing. I don't know anything about pie, but I can tell he's really smart. I expect good things to come from this redesign and I assume it will take countless hours of effort and tons of frustration.

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raven is just one of those guys who will cry always when he doesnt get his way.. u failed.. u took wuse way out and deleted.. anyone thats has serious played this game knows u cant always win or have ur way.. there will be times u get beat down .. and if ur good maybe u will win some time.. problem is .. that u havnt learned how to  lose.. do u see anyone else posting a 100 times cause they got beat??? sad thing is now everyone knows how u are and will know u as the cry baby.. ive played since the betas 15 plus years.. ur kind of player comes and go

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We get it texas. U don't mind abusing new players cause that's your playstyle. I'm not saying there was anything wrong with it cause the game allowed it. Any vet seen this situation a ton already.  But for a new player in an assumed starter galaxy, probably expected a more friendly environment. Sn is no longer a starter galaxy so that is fixed.

If you really want to learn the game, just join a normal galaxy. Someone is bound to help you out in the 8ish family members you'll have

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lol i only hit him 3 times lol.. i didnt even take a planet..im not gonna say sorry over nothing.. he took like 5 of my unportaled planets after that .. then i retook.. next thing i know i wake up and hes deleted lol.. im not gonna say sorry when i havnt done anything wrong.. also considering half of this shit hes said is made up .. i think he has some sort of other problems.. look at what all hes posted in this thread..kinda extreme

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why everyone is talking about IA? Alliances are allowed this round, so they are not IA, just alliance.

Rule no. 1
If you don't trust or don't know player, simply don't make an alliance with him.

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FYI. New alliance lol 9th Realm, Apple, Selene , Bad wolf. Still some names to be provided but all I'm saying is good job to them. let the fun begin and at least we were honest about are alliance from the start hence the family name and tags.

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I don't think just pnapping someone qualifies as an alliance.

Also those 4 names are not in the same alliance.  There is a combination of 2 persons that belong to an alliance.

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really doesnt matter  anymore this is just a game to kill time.. soimetimes u win ... sometimes u lose .. ive lost count on how many times ive done each .. im more here for the social group than anything..im barely even half active.. i have a real life and 5 kids to take care of .. this is just a time filler .. people take it way to serious.. and then there are those who think their good cause their able to be on here 24 and have no life lol

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There is only 2 things I have to say


1) LordRaven, it sux's that this happened to you, but this is the nature of the beast when it comes to this game, and new players. So enough of your complaining, sux it up and move on!



2) ( This part of the post is not meant to get LR in trouble, but to point out the fact that our MOD's are not doing the job, and not following the rules/guidelines laid out for the game.)

This posting should have never been allowed to continue, let alone be posted if you follow the rules/guidelines laid out in the rules


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It is impossible to objectively define what is "vulgar" or "offensive" so please use your best judgement. What is defined as a rule violation is at the disrection of the Imperial Conflict team. When in doubt, err on the side of caution.



So how many of these were broken.

yeah, yeah, yeah, your the best in the game!
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2) ( This part of the post is not meant to get LR in trouble, but to point out the fact that our MOD's are not doing the job, and not following the rules/guidelines laid out for the game.)

Don't blame the mods, blame me. smile  We are still getting a feel for the updated rules and the degree of enforcement we intend to lay down.

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So how many of these were broken.

None.  Don't forget this one: "What is considered a violation of these rules is at the discretion of the Imperial Conflict team."

I'd rather our players not call each-other liars, but I don't think thus far it's escalated to the point of harassment.

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I like pie wrote:
Cjay92 wrote:

2) ( This part of the post is not meant to get LR in trouble, but to point out the fact that our MOD's are not doing the job, and not following the rules/guidelines laid out for the game.)

Don't blame the mods, blame me. smile  We are still getting a feel for the updated rules and the degree of enforcement we intend to lay down.

Cjay92 wrote:

So how many of these were broken.

None.  Don't forget this one: "What is considered a violation of these rules is at the discretion of the Imperial Conflict team."

I'd rather our players not call each-other liars, but I don't think thus far it's escalated to the point of harassment.


OK OK... I must admit loled a lot at this.

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

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me too lol.. pi is doing best he can and im thankful hes here

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