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Well if you guys wanted a real war you could have gave us some time to work things out with 50. Ain't like we didn't have 3 weeks left in the round...

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^^^ ditto on what LG said

Proverbs 11:14 "Where there is no guidance the people fall,
But in abundance of counselors there is a victory."

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They didn't want a real war though, they want to win size.  I thought this was clarified already?

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Oh I know it was. Death was just trying to spin it like they were running out of time and HAD to cancel when they did because we were avoiding there war

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dude u were loosing planets like pouring water from a jug...sorry im not trying to spin it like we were running outta time.. u were loosing too many planets... were decided if we waited any longer it wouldnt even been worth canceling so we canceled.. and we all know planets win the round.. if u dont like it cancel and fight us...

Confront them with annihilation, and they will then survive; plunge them into a deadly situation, and they will then live. When people fall into danger, they are then able to strive for victory.

Sun Tzu

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So again IC Death, you are saying here that the reason you cancelled is you where affraid of missing out on the planets cause you're a chicken and napped the complete galaxy.
Dont come with lame excuses, you only care about winning the round and dont give a rats ass on how you do it.
We've had only 1 nap this entire round and that's with you guys.
And btw, i'm keen and i didn't quit right away. i already said that this war came at a really bad time for me due to issues irl.
i only had 2 hours time at the moment the nap cancelled. after that i literally had no chance to get connected to the internet.

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Undeath wrote:
Lone Tiger wrote:

I've tried to explain the problem, but I don't think anyone heard.

You expect people to act "honorably".  But what we, as a community, have done is to change the word honor to mean an imaginary set of rules.  And then, when other players don't follow the imaginary set of rules, you get upset.

I can only speak for myself.  But I will not follow an imaginary set of rules.  It's not because I need to win.  It's because I don't believe a game can be run that way.

Write the rules down, and I'll agree to follow them.  Show me the rules.  As an example, where in the rules does it talk about farming, and where does it define farming as 15 %.   That rule doesn't exist.

Show me rules, and I'll follow them.

But when your talking about imaginary rules, then your just a cry baby.

The above attitude is a literal example of the biggest reason IC is in pieces, so I appreciate the example. 

In it's prime IC was game governed by a community that operated under a set of honor principles that equated to "dude, don't be an asshole".  If you were a top family competing ftw and you farmed a defenseless family too hard, it was understood that every other family in contention would destroy you.  This wasn't an IA, there was no discussion, it just happened.  The gradual decline in the community required some moderator action, like implementing ingame NAPS (worst decision ever made for the game imo), removing the delete option to prevent illegal drafting, or the new morale system that was developed specifically because players in large families were farming new players to the point of deletion every round (which is great for player count btw).

IC grew as a community lead game.  Used to be you came into IRC or the forums and it was like Cheers.  Everyone knows everybody and if you were knew you received a warm welcome apart from the required trolling by ilu or TU.  Now it's like Mos Eisley, you walk in and just hope you walk out without getting stabbed in the back.

/end back in my day rant

This! This is the reason so many have left. People acted like assholes, enough people left that the old ways wouldn't work anymore for correcting the behaviour. It gets to the point where moderator input is required to stem the flow, and then people find ways to abuse the system for their own gain. More leave and we move further and further away from a self governing system that used to work because of the tight knit community. NAPs should be considered IA's, remove them all together. Work on the basic principle, "Would I consider myself an asshole if I was on the recieving end of this?"

If the answer is yes and you do it anyways then clearly you are part of the problem. I cannot be more on Undeath's side on this, it's part of the reason I left modding - because the community I wanted to help through modding doesn't exist anymore, it's filled with people that are selfish assholes with the occasional person that tries to do the right thing and gets crapped on.

Insanity and genius are closely related!
*** Eltie for mod! ***
Failing Lemming of Teachings and Australian Cop Orgies: Gwynedd

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The saddest part of this all is actually that I don't even expect the mods to do something about this joint venture between 2054 and 2056.

We (2050) waited till 2054 vs 2056 war was over, we knew Sharks had a cancellation nap with 2054, so once they (2054) started exploring (in our systems) after their war with 56, we started clearing them because we figured we had little time before Sharks would cancel on them and probably wouldn't have a chance to clear them after their war.

So Sharks see 54 losing planets too us and cancel on 2054 and we left them be,  besides clearing shares. Than 2054 starts mass giving planets away too 2056 all over their core, obvious no regular nap payment.

Than we had 2056 to deal with, seeing they got spread from 2054 a lot closer to my fam, so we started to fight them.

Thor/Colo asks for a nap past evening, the tick Jdc gets a portal in their core, we raid Loki for close too 100 planets, than it was time for 2054 too help their buttbuddies in 2056 out.

Probably by sheeeeeeer coincidence, the tick we core 2056, 2054 comes into action and Keen and Nasty jump fleet and start hitting us.


To keep it street like ICD, this is absolute poooooooooooo.

Anyways, we fought 2054, 2056, 2049, 2051, 2052 all when they was bigger than us and we left the small fams alone.

Thats how you are supposed to play, take notes and learn. At least I can honestly say my fam plays by the rules.

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

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[I'm going to stop making personal attacks against IC Death, or I'm going to get forum banned!]

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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Wow taking things a little far lol you sound like Donald came in your house and pissed in your corn flakes in the morning. If you played a round with ICDeath you'd know he's not a bad guy, so why even take it that far? I'm gonna assume you see yourself as an asshole, but still no reason to be racial with things. I'm about as conservative as they come, and I'm offended for death and any other players of diffrent race that log into the same game as you. Hope you've shaved your head in a real skin head fashion becuase it's going right up your ass next round Scorp wink

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Lol

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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If mods aren't gonna do their jobs about IAs..and  family pictures..then why should I worry about what I say..it's freedom of speech..it's will continue as I please..it's just a game and yall all are easy to get to..thanks again it's a victory for me:)

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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Please please come and get me!!!lol

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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Sol - not co-incidence and i hardly jumped fleet.

while you fought hall of fame i didn't touch you guys because you asked.

when i attacked 56 you were messing with us the whole time

when sharks cancelled you continued and continued.

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68 players left..out of those maybe 30 to 40 active..who cares anymore if mods and owners won't save game or do things ..then I could surely care less what some people thing game play wise...I will continue as I please and see fit

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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Sol Invictus wrote:

The saddest part of this all is actually that I don't even expect the mods to do something about this joint venture between 2054 and 2056.

We (2050) waited till 2054 vs 2056 war was over, we knew Sharks had a cancellation nap with 2054, so once they (2054) started exploring (in our systems) after their war with 56, we started clearing them because we figured we had little time before Sharks would cancel on them and probably wouldn't have a chance to clear them after their war.

So Sharks see 54 losing planets too us and cancel on 2054 and we left them be,  besides clearing shares. Than 2054 starts mass giving planets away too 2056 all over their core, obvious no regular nap payment.

Than we had 2056 to deal with, seeing they got spread from 2054 a lot closer to my fam, so we started to fight them.

Thor/Colo asks for a nap past evening, the tick Jdc gets a portal in their core, we raid Loki for close too 100 planets, than it was time for 2054 too help their buttbuddies in 2056 out.

Probably by sheeeeeeer coincidence, the tick we core 2056, 2054 comes into action and Keen and Nasty jump fleet and start hitting us.


To keep it street like ICD, this is absolute poooooooooooo.

Anyways, we fought 2054, 2056, 2049, 2051, 2052 all when they was bigger than us and we left the small fams alone.

Thats how you are supposed to play, take notes and learn. At least I can honestly say my fam plays by the rules.

rubbish, you kept hitting us when sharks were farming us fresh out of our war with 56, we finally napped sharks so you are our sole focus now - deal with it.

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Oh no life is over as we know it!!.

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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damn i read a lot of crap around here.
i will say just 1 thing. someone is right (and i know because i am in that fam) and some 2-3 guys that have a lot of posts here talk crap. smile)
i can say the names because i know what is happening big_smile

Mods i see you are getting involved. start doing something. just like other guys who want something to be changed. you talk now and next round you are in fam with colo/fbi/icd and put them leaders. no just kill them, don't let them play. if we have some noobs get rid of them.
we have an IA or suspicion we ban players for 1-2-3-7 days to stop with this crap.

i remember when Lizzy (old mod) banned me because i had the same ip (we were in the same lan) with 2 more guys (1 i think still plays - Lohan). and other time because it was a coincidence that i ruined someone's ground after another guy from other fam ruined his air (we didn't had infos back then).

you want to change something, change yourself. mods make your points. what if 2-3-4 guys leave? it won't leave a fair guy, it will leave a noob who wants to win. i think IC could get rid of those.

@Mods you can search for someone who is willing to save IC and make some damn rules and don't play IC (like in old days when Lizzy and others had no account or an inactive in a random fam just to spy and infiltrate). and you can make something

@others who want to change.....change yourself and take attitudine. what if you get killed 3-5 times because you don't want someone as leader (a tiran how others would like to say). what if you struggle in a small fam for 2-3 rounds? i started in a top6 fam and i keept playing even if everyone said we don't have a chance.

Taranul de oras, cel mai prost animal !
Idiots are ruin the country !

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The point is that there is clearly IAs going on with people using whatsapp instead of irc anymore..time and time again this going on..people's greed towards end of round for planets and the win..honor left the game long time ago..mods don't care anymore..there only a few players left so why should they care..they get nothing for their time anyways..it's just sad the owners of the game don't do anything at all..I just play for fun now win or lose who cares anymore..I talk trash cause that's easiest way to get to someone..then I sit back and just watch..some players have the mods eating from their hands

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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BIGTEXAS wrote:

The point is that there is clearly IAs going on with people using whatsapp instead of irc anymore..time and time again this going on..people's greed towards end of round for planets and the win..honor left the game long time ago..mods don't care anymore..there only a few players left so why should they care..they get nothing for their time anyways..it's just sad the owners of the game don't do anything at all..I just play for fun now win or lose who cares anymore..I talk trash cause that's easiest way to get to someone..then I sit back and just watch..some players have the mods eating from their hands

Curious as to whose hand I get to eat from.

<KT|Away> I am the Trump of IC

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Freedom of speech? Freedom of speech protects you from the government chief, not from me. You bring that racial mess around me, Or people I know, I'll exercise my right too give you a good Ol IC ass whoopin

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Bring it weenie sniffer lol

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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Sticks and stones may break my bones but ur words will never hurt me!!!to bad none of yall can practice this!!..white lives matter!!lol

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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Remember when IC had over 3 or 4 gals and about 2000 players. Those days are over. No one will save ic. Its nokia 3210 in a smartphone era.

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thisyearsmostopen wrote:

Remember when IC had over 3 or 4 gals and about 2000 players. Those days are over. No one will save ic. Its nokia 3210 in a smartphone era.

This too!  While a strong community would help, that alone wouldn't be able to bring us back up to speed.  If the goal is for IC to stick around for years it'll require a complete overhaul with a focus on mobile game-play.

<KT|Away> I am the Trump of IC