Topic: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

South Carolina, the Republican Primary, people were shocked at how well Trump did. There was a wave of Depression going around, so I did two posts. The first post was a simple "Please relax" image that shared about 700 times total.

The second was a mathematical examination of the turnout. In the Note on Facebook I said that about 170,000 Democrats turned out for Trump and I put a maximum crossover of 270,000 for the Democrats. I then stipulated evidence would be a low turnout for the Democrats.

Rush Limbaugh the next day predicted a 25% turnout.

At 9:54 PM EST with 99.9% of the vote counted there is 369,239 Democrats who voted, out of about 575,000 expected. This means there was 205,000 less votes than there should have been. I see a 35% total amount of Democrats as missing and/or having Crossed Over to vote in the Republican Primary. This will be almost entirely spoiler votes mind you.

I called the spoiler levels to a faretheewell and I get the credit on it. No pundit, no pollster, no one except Trump really weighed in. I waded into the math and I came out correct.

That second post got about 2100 shares by the way. It still gets shared at a significant rate.

I just hit the big number business.

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2 (edited by The Great Eye 28-Feb-2016 17:34:09)

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I can't believe it!  I get to post this again!

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/correlation.png

Aaaah, just like old times.  Anyway...

In every other state that's had a primary this year (even closed primaries), this trend has also been a thing (that being that Republican primary turnout has been extremely high, and turnout for the Democrats' primary drops relative to their prior primary).  The Nevada caucus saw turnout double for Republicans, and drop by 1/3 for Democrats.  Iowa (a closed primary state) also showed these turnout oddities, at least on the Republican side (they don't disclose turnout among Democrats, so we'll never know).

There's a valid argument to say that the turnout differences from last year are simply because this is a more high-profile, more interesting primary on the GOP side, whereas the Democrats are relatively getting overshadowed (Clinton's not saying Sanders is wrong about his ideas.  She's politely arguing strategy with him).  This could also be substantiated by debate viewership, where Republicans have had much more viewership in their debates than Democrats (if you assume that debate viewership is representative of overall interest in the respective primary).

Finally, keep in mind that when you're comparing the Democrats' primary participation, the election dynamics have to be factored in.  In 2008, Democrats got to pick between Clinton and a young African American candidate who gave good speeches and whom we now know was able to bring a significant number of first-time voters to the polls, if for no other reason than due to his minority status.  Keep in mind also that South Carolina has a significant African-American population... so a population incredibly favorable to Obama and likely to go out and vote, even if first time voters, for that primary.  Now it's Clinton against... well... a cranky old white man who is NOT seeking broad appeal among age and racial groups, largely playing up the millennial vote, and who is assigning himself an ideological badge (democratic socialist) that most Democrats shy away from, at least publicly.  The result?  Most likely, the election you're comparing current turnout with among the Democrats would have a higher turnout if only due to Obama's appeal to first-time voters.

What makes South Carolina's results, which have been reflected in the results of every other indicator of interest in the election, special then?

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

For those that actually read any predictions by Flint...

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4 (edited by The Great Eye 29-Feb-2016 15:37:29)

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*facepalm*

Gwyn... you do realize that time, the Republicans actually did win the Senate and keep the House in the year you posted, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St … ions,_2014

Now granted, I'm pretty sure there are better examples that are now inaccessible due to both a prior forum move and the moving of old politics threads to an archive (there's a reason why I don't go online and make predictions despite watching election coverage daily: because it's way too easy to view events through one's own rose-colored glasses and really screw up and take a credibility hit, particularly when you keep in mind that people have a vested interest in predicting their own people will do well).  But yeah, might want to fact check before you throw that out.  tongue

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But really for those that actually read any predictions by Flint...

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

I was mainly looking for the threads for Obama having no chance of getting the presidency then no chance of keeping it but they must be the old forums.

Here's an interesting one: http://imperialconflict.com/forum/viewt … ?id=166359

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

well theres twelve more states, is there this same "correlation" between Democrat turnout and Republican turnout in other states or was it just South Carolina where it synched?

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

Before I post, Yell, I want to make it 100% clear what you're asking for.  You're asking for a comparison of the GOP turnout from 2016 to 2012 in each Super Tuesday state, compared to turnout in the Democratic party from 2008 to 2016 (since there was no competitive Democratic primary in 2012), correct?  I don't want to have to go through the work only to hear "no, you got the wrong thing."

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No go ahead and compare 2012.  Einstein ain't the only one saying open primaries lead to more votes for Trump than closed primaries.

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

This might appear off-topic but I assure you that it is very much on topic.

I want to play a little game Einstein, I am thinking of a rule and I am not going to tell you what the rule is. The rule applies to a set of 3 numbers, and the only way for you to test this theory is to give me sets of 3 numbers to which I will tell you whether it belongs to the rule or not. When you think you know the rule, tell me and I will tell you if you are correct or not. I will also give you a set of 3 numbers to start you off:

2, 4, 8

Now you can give me sets of 3 numbers/take guesses.

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11 (edited by Little Paul 14-Mar-2016 18:00:26)

Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

Einstein, you're supposed to say:
"how can we check that you don't change the math in your brain wornstrum?"
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12 (edited by The Great Eye 14-Mar-2016 18:52:22)

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He's already told me the solution, so if he changes, I'll know.  Does that help?  tongue

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

lol

Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

Einstein isn't here anymore.

He is busy being published nationally as a political analyst.

Also he is getting national radio coverage under his real name.

If the Republican Convention is really fractious he may get TV time.

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

"What?  Sorry, I am too busy talking to other people about my position to answer challenges to the accuracy of that exact same position."

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

7 49 343

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17 (edited by ~Wornstrum~ 24-Apr-2016 15:14:35)

Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

Belongs to the rule

Edit: Sorry, should say it follows the rule.

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

1 2 3

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

Follows the rule.

I give your invention the worst score imaginable. An A minus MINUS!
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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

~Wornstrum~ wrote:

Belongs to the rule

Edit: Sorry, should say it follows the rule.


Waaait a minute...Wornstrum could speak English!  Who IS this?

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(edited by ~Wornstrum~ 24-Apr-2016 22:14:35)

I edited my own post. I didn't want any misunderstanding of the rule (ie. I didn't want someone at the end going "it follows the rule, doesn't belong to it!")

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3 2 1

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23 (edited by ~Wornstrum~ 25-May-2016 06:44:28)

Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

Doesn't follow the rule.

Edited: Meant to say it doesn't follow the rule.

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1001 10001 100001

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Re: I pulled off a coup in the election monitoring

I guess Einstein is busy

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