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Re: Morale Option sucks major

All of these items still punish larger families. That is the underlying problem.  If you decide to grow at all you are at a disadvantage.  SO what happens, if everyone stays small, but then you, have better attacks and beat everyone in the galaxy, and thus become bigger,  no you can eb retaliated against for winning wars?  it just seems like an ass backwards way of fixing issues with the game. 

I got farmed bad last round, did i quit? no, it happens.

Also i still say that until you fix the game format and aesthetics itself there is ni point to overhaul a moral system.

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I'll be back next round to try round 2 of the new rules in a different way,i'm not going to let a rule change beat me to the point that i quit playing.

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If we know that there's a problem, then I'm happy.

I don't even care what your doing about it.  I'll wait patently until you figure it out.  I'll wait years, I don't mind.

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On page 3 of this thread, KT wrote

"Not sure how many times it has been said, this morale thing was not mods' idea.  However we keep trying to adjust it to make it work better and this will take a while."

"this will take a while" clearly means it is not yet right and it will need to be worked on more. You'd be silly to expect perfect balance overnight.

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Part of the problem Acrid, is that if we only cater to players that are willing to stick around after getting farmed, all we're doing is throwing a patch on the game hoping to last another round.  If we don't find a system that makes it worth staying active when you're clearly not going to contend for a win, we're dead.  We're working on finding a balance for this system (keeping large families from completely decimating bottom families while not completely handicapping them), it'll take time.  Again, this new system was put into place because players were complaining about certain big players taking advantage of the old system to farm bottom families to death.  I personally know of at least 8 players we lost because of this practice.

Aesthetically I agree with you, we could use some work.  Unfortunately significant improvements in the mobile design won't happen without a ground up rebuild. 

Note:  If nobody played for the win this topic wouldn't be as hot as it is, as people would be taking advantage of the ability to stay small and fight all they want.

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Hi!

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"If nobody played for the win"   -   We have a fundamental difference on how games should work.  lol.

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Note:  If nobody played for the win this topic wouldn't be as hot as it is, as people would be taking advantage of the ability to stay small and fight all they want.

>Implying nobody did wink

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DamonTheViking wrote:

Note:  If nobody played for the win this topic wouldn't be as hot as it is, as people would be taking advantage of the ability to stay small and fight all they want.

>Implying nobody did wink

Nope! Implying that not everyone did tongue

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Proof that your system is BS undeath.  I was just attacked by 2 people over 75 times.  lost over 60 planets.  Most would consider that farming.  But because of your BS moral system i was able to do 8 freaking retakes before i ran out of moral.  8 to 75.  hell lets compare me to just 1 attacker.  8 to 35 or so?   Screw that man.

This doesnt even consider the IA that 66 and 72 have.  But as usual mods will do nothing about IA because they dont have ingame mesaages to prove.  Because god forbid someone uses an outsode freaking messaging system
 
The moral system is broken.  So stop your BS defense of it.

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What?  Acrid man your way wrong about 66 and 72 been in some kind of IA.

If you remember us 66 and 72 were actually fighting at one point (very briefly) but sure planets were been exchanged and 72 even changed their name to "66 Have No Other Targets" in other words we were fighting, now all of a sudden your saying were allies.

We were both attacking each other, how does that make us allies?   

I can also assure you there are no mods in our family chat (not that I have been made aware of) in fact Undeath has connected me once all round which was to say good work on Silenz.Org been fixed.   

From what I recall Acrid us and 72 were actually exchanging planets when your family came along and attacked us.  That us and 72 were slowly beginning to fight when your attackers hit us.   We backed off 72 and since that point your family has hit them as well which perhaps wasn't the best move.

I agree the number of retakes isn't very good, but you are wrong about any IA

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Acrid wrote:

Proof that your system is BS undeath.  I was just attacked by 2 people over 75 times.  lost over 60 planets.  Most would consider that farming.  But because of your BS moral system i was able to do 8 freaking retakes before i ran out of moral.  8 to 75.  hell lets compare me to just 1 attacker.  8 to 35 or so?   Screw that man.

This doesnt even consider the IA that 66 and 72 have.  But as usual mods will do nothing about IA because they dont have ingame mesaages to prove.  Because god forbid someone uses an outsode freaking messaging system
 
The moral system is broken.  So stop your BS defense of it.


In the moral section (that no one seems to be using) I found a few suggestion that we lower the cost of moral for retakes.   If retakes cost no moral then you could fight back.

I think this is the biggest problem right now.  There should never be a situation were you can't retake a planet.

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Lone Tiger wrote:
Acrid wrote:

Proof that your system is BS undeath.  I was just attacked by 2 people over 75 times.  lost over 60 planets.  Most would consider that farming.  But because of your BS moral system i was able to do 8 freaking retakes before i ran out of moral.  8 to 75.  hell lets compare me to just 1 attacker.  8 to 35 or so?   Screw that man.

This doesnt even consider the IA that 66 and 72 have.  But as usual mods will do nothing about IA because they dont have ingame mesaages to prove.  Because god forbid someone uses an outsode freaking messaging system
 
The moral system is broken.  So stop your BS defense of it.


In the moral section (that no one seems to be using) I found a few suggestion that we lower the cost of moral for retakes.   If retakes cost no moral then you could fight back.

I think this is the biggest problem right now.  There should never be a situation were you can't retake a planet.


Exactly,  the entire "point" of the new moral system was to stop farming.  Yet losign 60 planets is not considered farming?  I am being punished for being big and building?  It will take days to retake all of these planets with my current moral losses.

Also warchild,  just because you dont know about an IA does not mean that there isnt an IA.  When we ignore coincidences we lose.

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Stop wasting time building to 700% and 1200% and just fight all round long.

Everyone bitxhed when people infra whored now the fams who infra whore are being punished so man up stop worrying about your infra jumps and getting ahead so you can have more cash because you suck at attacking and can only take planets if you have bigger fleet and go out and do something.

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As a community, you all suck.

There is a tweeking thread.  In fact, there's a whole section.  Not one person has posted in the tweeking thread since aug.     That's 5 months, and not one single suggestion from any player.

You all suck.   It's like you all went to sleep, and every once in awhile one of you wakes up and says "the moral system sucks"  and then you go back to sleep.

I'm starting to understand why the mods are upset.  Undeath created a tweeking thread.  And then instead of using that tweeking thread, you guys complain and say there should be a tweeking thread.  Your all idiots.

I want every active player to come up with one good idea and post it in the moral discussion.

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That's just mean sad

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Acrid wrote:

Also warchild,  just because you dont know about an IA does not mean that there isnt an IA.  When we ignore coincidences we lose.

Acrid, I will say this again.

1. If there was an IA with 72 then why was we attacking 72?

2. If there was an IA with 72 why have we just granted your family a NAP whilst you fight 72?

I'm honestly shocked Acrid that our family grants you a NAP whilst you fight 72 then your thick enough to come in here accusing us of having an IA with 72.

Your leader asks us to cancel or postpone the war because of 72's attacks.

Our family is upset about that but out of fairness we agree and offer you a NAP.

Then YOU fire away in here saying were IA with 72 like 2 seconds after we have just give you a NAP.


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What part of you thinks I need an IA and 72 to take planets for me?

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RareUK wrote:
Acrid wrote:

Also warchild,  just because you dont know about an IA does not mean that there isnt an IA.  When we ignore coincidences we lose.

Acrid, I will say this again.

1. If there was an IA with 72 then why was we attacking 72?

2. If there was an IA with 72 why have we just granted your family a NAP whilst you fight 72?

I'm honestly shocked Acrid that our family grants you a NAP whilst you fight 72 then your thick enough to come in here accusing us of having an IA with 72.

Your leader asks us to cancel or postpone the war because of 72's attacks.

Our family is upset about that but out of fairness we agree and offer you a NAP.

Then YOU fire away in here saying were IA with 72 like 2 seconds after we have just give you a NAP.


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What part of you thinks I need an IA and 72 to take planets for me?

This is too funny! IA talk lol so funny you think a mod would allow an IA to happen. As much as you sound like a Whiney baby I'm actually finding it fun to log on once a day take 50 planets and log off. Oh and you can try all you like. This won't end soon morale is not in your favour even with 70 hitting us makes it easier to hit you. Reduces our morale. Costs you the win.... Not that you was ever going to get 300 planets off 66 anyway or that you would still need another 200 to beat 70 p count so you in a lose lose situation. Happy whining all your planets are belong to me!

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Acrid wrote:

Proof that your system is BS undeath.  I was just attacked by 2 people over 75 times.  lost over 60 planets.  Most would consider that farming.  But because of your BS moral system i was able to do 8 freaking retakes before i ran out of moral.  8 to 75.  hell lets compare me to just 1 attacker.  8 to 35 or so?   Screw that man.

This doesnt even consider the IA that 66 and 72 have.  But as usual mods will do nothing about IA because they dont have ingame mesaages to prove.  Because god forbid someone uses an outsode freaking messaging system
 
The moral system is broken.  So stop your BS defense of it.

When you only have 5000 ground units as defence in your portal what do you expect... Such a noob move to have a prat ressie fully portalled and have no ground defence thanks for the 60k infra though but I didn't need it so I got rid of it smile kthxbai!

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Lone Tiger wrote:
Acrid wrote:

Proof that your system is BS undeath.  I was just attacked by 2 people over 75 times.  lost over 60 planets.  Most would consider that farming.  But because of your BS moral system i was able to do 8 freaking retakes before i ran out of moral.  8 to 75.  hell lets compare me to just 1 attacker.  8 to 35 or so?   Screw that man.

This doesnt even consider the IA that 66 and 72 have.  But as usual mods will do nothing about IA because they dont have ingame mesaages to prove.  Because god forbid someone uses an outsode freaking messaging system
 
The moral system is broken.  So stop your BS defense of it.


In the moral section (that no one seems to be using) I found a few suggestion that we lower the cost of moral for retakes.   If retakes cost no moral then you could fight back.

I think this is the biggest problem right now.  There should never be a situation were you can't retake a planet.


I agree on this 100% and may i add that moral planets should be more valuable by making some +2,+3, ect, the higher the number the more rare the planets is to find.

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Make moral planets unlimited like before I remember having over 20/it was mint

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LG wrote:

Make moral planets unlimited like before I remember having over 20/it was mint


Well having unlimited is a bit to much but having 5 or 6 is fine but with the extra plus you can have up to 15-20 extra moral each tic if you find the plus planets and will create some extra fighting for these very valuable planets if your found to own them.

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Re: Morale Option sucks major

Well I can now second this thread title.

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lol...

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