may work

But there's not enough players for 3 galaxies.  This is really just a call to ban SS players from the main galaxy.

Instead, how about people learn to realize the benefits of having your SS player on your side.  Be nice to them, and you'd realize just how much help they can be.

Here are some of the many ways:

1.  During wars, enemy usually doesn't know the SS player is SS, and the SS player end up taking hits, either from enemy oppers or attacks.  This works out for the fam, since it causes the enemy to essentially waste their morale and fleet attacking a player that for all intents and purposes isn't part of the fam they want to attack.  And since SSers are usually very good players and are a rather hard target, it costs enemies a lot of fleet and morale.

2.  During wars where the enemy knows the player is SS, they might avoid opping or attacking him, which allows your SS time to prepare and attack at opportune moments.

3.  It so happens that when a fam is dead in the water after suffering from opps and attacks and no longer being able to upkeep their main attacker's fleet, your SSer can still be wreaking havoc on enemy bankers or even breaking the enemy fam's main attacker's ports or defending laser-trapped portals going up in enemy core systems or opping, etc.. all when the fam is down and seemingly out.  This can give the fam time to recoup and get back in the fight.

Having an SS in the fam should be regarded as an asset.  And what the fam should do is help them, reward them, and keep their sufferings and successes during wars in mind during nap negotiations.  Too often, what the SSer DESERVES for their sufferings and successes is not considered by the fam, let alone rewarded. This does not keep your SSer on your side.

In short, keeping your SS happy and active is quintessential to having happy successful fam.  The worst thing you could do is put them down for playing SS or say some crap in fam forum about how you have no love for SS players or that this isn't the galaxy for SS players or that they should go back to Supernova or something.  That is NOT how you get along with your SSer. 

If your SSers go rogue or go off and start trouble for you or don't participate in your wars or whatever, it's probably your fam deserves it.

Oh, and stop begging your SSers to join your fambank system or begging them for aid all the @#%-ing time.  There's nothing more annoying to an SS player than having to explain to players who don't understand how to play SS why they don't participate with the fambank system and don't 'aid'.

Xeno, having an extra player participating in fam bank can greatly help a fam early. My point is that a family of 9+an ss cannot compete with an equally competent family of 10 players. In a game that is supposed to be competitive, getting a disadvantage simply because somebody wants to do their own thing just doesn't seem fair to the rest of the family.

As an ss, you have the option to play in supernova and nobody can hinder your ability to grow and build infra.

As a family, you can only play in starburst (and SD now but that doesn't count) and even then you have to get lucky enough to get 9-10 players who want to work together. If you get 1-2 ss who just dont want to help then that puts your family at a disadvantage compared to equal families without an ss.

On another note, a family bank system(or even a team system) fosters communication which would lead to any new players learning from the other players in their family.

How about a middle ground...... keep ss players in starburst but have them indicate when joining that they want to play ss. These ss players will all be put into a single ss family that has the aid function disabled to prevent people using this for illegal drafting. If players want to use this function to "draft" so they can ss together then let them (i dont see any harm in this)

To be honest, I g feel like you try to respond with really long messages so people don't want to answer

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And that's the problem.  That's why this game cannot actualize its potential.

And, honestly, I don't know of any other game that has as much potential as this one, not only in terms of awesome game play, but actual money.

What I envision as the possibilities for this game are mind-blowing.  I could take the vision that I have for IC's potential and actualize it somewhere else - basically build what I envision for IC from the ground up.

But I do NOT want to do that.  I want to work with THIS game, with everyone here... 

But certain things need to be worked out first, shares, profit sharing, intellectual property rights, for everyone involved, not just me.

I just happened to peek at the fourms after many years of not playing this game and this thread caught my attention.  The reason why i stopped playing is because everyone is forcing a fam bank these days and I basically become a robot that listens to everything the leader (or person in charge of bank) tells me to.  Im told exactly what to build and given an exact amount of resources.  Honestly, why would I bother play a game when it is basically being played for me. 

I liked the game when people would split into teams and work together.  If I am forced to be a fam bank robot, id rather play SS or not play at all.

Back after months to check on this thread.  Not much other discussion.  I hope that IC goes the route of fleet-commander-tag-controlled capital ship fleets as suggested in other thread, and a positive attitude towards SS / teams is is fostered.  Also, additional Research tree as discussed in other thread would help, along with a cheque in the mail from Stefan, please.