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is bugged and is a nightmare!

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Re: morale overhaul

You need to be more specific as what is bugged? We did say this is a testing round so we need more than just generalization plz hmm

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Right, so what are we waiting for?  Can we get this going?  Any other feedback?

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3 Reply by exceed (edited by exceed 03-Aug-2015 16:43:58)

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Re: morale overhaul

simple..
Opps costs waay to much morale... 3x try for an infil happens more then enough, some PI's, IP's or whatever end you lost a good amount of morale just to prepare yourself (in SN you only have yourself to do this, in SB i could understand that i wouldn't be a problem since you have multiple people performing these opps)

i wondered where all my morale went to after sending some fleets, untill i saw that sending fleet costs morale.. just sending !
so no more morale and all fleet out... another dead end (I hope this is a bug!)

Attacking costs again morale and i believe that the amount is too much

Could you give us the formula, that calculates what you will loose when you have like x planets and the other have x planets ? Or is it NW-related now as well ?

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Re: morale overhaul

1. Sending Fleets does not cost morale, if you're losing morale upon sending a fleet please document it and get the info to us. 
2. What does happen, is that it now displays how much morale the attack will cost.  You must have enough morale to place the to send the fleet, but the morale will not be deducted until the attack is actually done.
3. We're looking at a way to reduce morale cost in Supernova, but the new morale formula is more heavily weighted towards nw.  You will lose a lot of morale when attacking someone significantly smaller than you, and this is by design.

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Suggestion: Make different type of moral for CO and magic and the other one for fleet attacks.

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Re: morale overhaul

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Suggestion: Make different type of moral for CO and magic and the other one for fleet attacks.


Being considered and will likely happen.  For the original roll out we wanted to limit the potential problems, so we left the formula the same for both ops and attacks.  We already have a basic plan on how to tweak the losses.

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Re: morale overhaul

Why must we have enough morale to send fleet?
If this will remain you should remove the universal news..
Its like a banner that says hit me, they will know you will have negative morale when you took enough planets

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Why must we have enough morale to send fleet?
If this will remain you should remove the universal news..
Its like a banner that says hit me, they will know you will have negative morale when you took enough planets


1. You can't get negative morale.
2. You've never been able to send fleets if you didn't have the morale to complete the attack, it's just that before you were allowed to go into the negative.

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undeath I have had negative morale several time this round in both SN and SB. Also I do believe that you should be able to send the fleets even tho u don't have the morale at that specific tick.

Else I do think it makes sense but should get a little bit less sensitive.

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I agree,  the attacking shouldn't be possible with negative moral but the sending should. It will make things easier.  And just for confirmation, I did have negative moral as well.

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Re: morale overhaul

Interesting, you shouldn't be able to get into the negative, what are you doing to send yourself below 0?

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send fleets when u have morale and trigger. I was -37 in sb when I took from xx98

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Idd. Attacking someone with positive moral but the cost puts you in negative balance. I suggest that you keep this. It'll be the only way to protect you against sa's if you don't have one.

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Re: morale overhaul

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send fleets when u have morale and trigger. I was -37 in sb when I took from xx98


This current round?

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yes. This very tick my SB empire is -4%

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Ive been constantly in negative morale.. Like -30 or more. Takes ages before you can perform another opp or send fleets

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I'm still trying to figure out what you fellas are doing.  Whenever I try to attack or op, I get a you don't have enough morale message

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Ok it seems to be fixed. No one was supposed to go into negative morale. We shall see!

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Right, so what are we waiting for?  Can we get this going?  Any other feedback?

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I can't go negative anymore so u made something right.

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Re: morale overhaul

sure this has been said already

"Sending this fleet would cost us too much morale."

But this is bogus that I need the moral upfront to send the fleet.

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21 Reply by Ferengis (edited by Ferengis 11-Aug-2015 19:17:00)

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I have the same feeling. It limits you as an attacker.

Edit: and doesn't change anything because i still can't take the planet with negative moral.

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Ya this pisses me off more and more.

Can we not change this?

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Also why does war declaration not change moral loss

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Re: morale overhaul

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Also why does war declaration not change moral loss

This will be adjusted, as this was a trial round we didn't want to throw in extra variables.

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LG wrote:

sure this has been said already

"Sending this fleet would cost us too much morale."

But this is bogus that I need the moral upfront to send the fleet.


Agreed!  I'll poke the bear some more.

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