It's the leader doing it, and we tried the nuke thing, an were able to hit on the first fam that did it, but then they jumped agents at the exact time we did. (Seemed fishy) and we are out of resources from the first couple times and getting hit again, with nothing left to fight back. When I asked him what he was doing, he told me he was farming.... Just frustrating, rounds already shot lol

Amen

Lol you're one of those farming us

Lee, i think every top family has to farm to some extent.  But if possible they should be trying to pick bigger targets then just choosing an easy walkover fam.  On the flip side small families should expect to be farmed and should take measures to prevent this from being too severe.  I think hitting a family is find, but wiping them out totally is wrong.   unless its bara or artic.

taken from another thread iin this forum:

"...It is actually very easy to implement an ingame function to reduce farming, the same you have for an individual empire to enter p-mode, there should be a p-mode for the family that's been farmed, based on the algorithm for individuals.  To calculate this limit of loses is not the purpose of my quote, but when a family enters p-mode all its players should be properly informed (authomatic HQ message) and when they're about to trigger a fleet or do some action that takes the family out of p-mode be properly warned."

bottom fams should get put together,thers always like 2 sometimes 3 fams at the bottom of pw with only 1 to 3 players.
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The greatest repurcussion to farming is, that the person farmed decides to quit. 

You will read the term, "Over Farmed", from time to time, if quite often.

Again, one player hitting you and then NAP'ing, does not denote that the rest of the offenders family will not again hit you.  In a completely different post, I say again...

...you try NAP'ing with 15-25 different players, from loss, to loss, to more loss.

One of my first posts in forums dealt with new players, or underdogs in the universe uniting to fight common scourges.  But that fell on deaf ears and eyes, who basically used the term "newb" or "noob" on my ass for several years.  The smaller families don't have much in the way of "political" or "fleet" clout, in order to make much headway against larger families.

The families of IC are nothing but rungs on a ladder in both influence and fleet power.  Your either at the top, or your climbing to the top.  Influence in this game is based on which players know each other, have worked with each other, and know a more comprehensive style  of play, than say someone completely new.

Originally the whole idea of "Random" family, caused many players to delete, then restart, until they got into a family of the players they liked, or knew best, or were considered "Top Performers".  Kinda missed the random days.  Although I would have put a damn timer on those that deleted and attempted to restart in a new family.  Or in some cases those same players made multiple accounts in the hopes of landing in a prefered family.

Still, older players seem to dominate vs. those comparitively new and stuck in smaller families, learning the hard way, and literally being farmed to death, while the established players looked down and laughed and tell him/her "get better, or find a better family."

This attitude by established players has been piss poor for years, going all the way up until today.

Still, I always gave more credit to those that were farmed to death and fought all the way till the near destruction of their empire, and then came back to try again.  Usually over and over again.

I been farmed.  I hated it.  One of the established players gave me a shot in an established family...and even with a winning family...I hated it.  Your either a banker, or an attacker. 

Banker/attacker banker/attacker banker/attacker.

If that's all this game is about is the bank rollers, and the attackers who are receiving those funds, then i'd say a lot of busy body players were piss poor, because they couldn't fund themselves to comit to an attack.

Over farming is pretty much banker/attacker thing now.  I begin to wonder how many players COULD have been farmed, if Bankers did not exist to fund the Attackers in general.  How much in gains could the attacker truelly have gotten, without support from a banker.  Their attacks would, or could have sputtered out, leaving themselves open to counter attack.  So the game in that regards is kind of unrealistic.

Farming could not be supported without bankers, to support the attackers.

And most new players won't even know this.  Low populated families will always be low populated because of an inability to have a number of bankers in equal amount to the number of attackers.  The sad things is, EVERYONE wants to be an attacker.  Attackers gain the planets, they gain notice, because they are the Leaders in the scoreboard.  Of course the attackers would then cede planets to bankers, but still you see that majority of scoreboard is attackers.  How many bankers make a name for themselves.  Half a dozen?  Known IC wide?

I think last round I saw a family of ....one.  One guy, going it alone, his family either AFk, or...multiple account players who attempted to find themselves in a nice populated family.  But one guy, took a lot of losses and just kept going.  In my book that's not a bad player.  That's a player that has stamina.  And that's the sort of player this game needs.

The term Farmed in this game is a deragatory term.  Nobody wants to be farmed.  Shows they have either no skill, no power, and/or no influence.  And players without skill, power or influence are usually spit upon.  Some of you would use the word "unlucky" considering all the obstacles they would have to overcome.  But those that use the term unlucky are nothing but jackasses who got kicked in the teeth quite a few times themselves and don't want to admit they either had no skills, no power, and certainly had no influence.

no Devilz, small fams are small bekause they're inaktive.  If you setup in their kore and build a lasertrap they wont attak you in time prezisely bekause they're less aktive than you are.  At some point you've built more lasers than they kan destroy, even spending it all on new bombers. 

So you know where you are and you go there for an easy target, so farming them when your portal is ready falls into dishonorable movement.  You gotta take planets from them bekause its a war game and you've won, but you should also konsider a % of planets to take from them, and beyond that % it is plain farming and you're destroying the game.

There is people in inaktive fams that fight brave, but then suffer 72h of abuse aftert thier last retake.  That's not the way.
My advize for a family that's about to be farmed is to let the big fish portal in your kore while staying out of their NW attaking range, and tell the people in your fam to not attak/op them.  You kan even get shares with their bankers.
And then wait, growing only a little to stay out of their range while setting a reserve in your ekonomy (a reserve/stok you kannot use anyway bekause you'd get into their range).

So you are the small family taking kontrol of this situation, you gotta investigate what are the invaders timetable, how many tiks a day they login, and when does that attaker goes offline for more than 8 tiks,
And then waiting for the farmers to enter a bigger konflikt, where their ported attaker has to jump and so your NW range is inkreased a lil more, so you kan set your strategikal jump.

1-Jump someone with magik bonus and KPFF his portal (portals) in your kore, you might do it while he sleeps, best timing u kan do it the tik after he's gone to sleep.
2-Jump your attaker with shares with them bankers (ground strong).
3-Jump someone wiht bombers enuf to remove his lasertrap in the bloked portal.

I know this is hard to do for a small family, presizely bekause of their inaktivity and lak of koordination, but staying out of the big fish NW range shouldnt be a problem.

I think alley outta be brought back. no drafts- or vips !  Resuffle all where they land is where they are no- delete wait and random! either teach or die in ic- old mw day and andro. when 200 players on at 1 time- not 23. Same few think they own-lol- with no one to teach others- you win ? what is your win?
you beat noobs- now they delete and ic gets smaller! congrats to all that think they will and not teach others the game. farming part of the game- use to be 10 p's and move on- now you farm 100 and demand 100 for nap= WOW what worst attackers- old days you fought for those p's- now you farm 100 and demand 100 for nap- and say I was best attacker- really! you worstless as your ideas of ever being good!!!!! my thoughs!!!!

Why not make a pact with all families who are against farming? If one of the families gets farmed then all the others help to "punish" the farmer.

I started playing this game around 12 years ago, there was already a little bit of farming but not that much. Had some really good times with this game, really sad to see it like this.