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I regret to inform you all that in ten years all this stuff will be as obsolete as the Beta-VHS controversy.
"Actually skoe, FF does not have as many vulnerabilities. With i.e a hacker can force you to download viruses due security issues. Among other reasons, FF is the better choice of the 2; ie is horribly slow in comparison to ff, and has to have extra code added to pages for it to rendered properly. Kind..of..pathetic"
Wrong. Firefox has just as many vulnerabilities, and by disagreeing with me on that you have only prooved my point. Change is needed with the user, not just the software.
"It's not just Firefox that's better Skoe. Use whatever browser you want, just make sure it's not IE (Trident) based. It's a piece of [MS-DOS] browser, gives headaches to web developers and is currently stopping websites from becoming better because alot of people feel the need to use an inferior browser that doesn't support 2/3rd of the current W3 specs.
Now stop trying to defend it. It's a hopeless fight, and you'll only look like an idiot."
Trident is actually pretty good. Have you used IE8?
I do not have any security issues with IE. The only time i did was when i downloaded and installed software that had spyware -- and if you think that will only happen in Windows/FF then you have no right telling people IE users are idiots.
As for the web standards -- whose standards are they? Exactly. No ones. An organisation that ISNT OPEN, so why should IE have to follow it? It does, afterall, and i think that bitching because it isn't 100% compataible with some other company's product is stupid.
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It's quite obvious you're just one of those people who can't grasp the notion of standardisation. So I won't even bother.
And yes, I have tried IE8. It's slower than IE7, still doesn't render stuff properly, still doesn't seem to properly support application/xhtml+xml, has huge JS errors, ...
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Without really caring; IE *is* really slow compared to FF. And the extension possibilities in FF are incredible.
i use both and iv really never found FF to be faster than IE.
I dont know alot about such things but from wot i can tell, FF used to be alot better than IE, at which point alot of ppl started using it and got into the mentality that FF was just better. now IE has caught up but ppl are stuck in that mentality. FF's endless updates annoy me cos they end up wasting 2-3 mins every so often when you open up FF, whereas IE updates come with the general Windows updates
"i use both and iv really never found FF to be faster than IE."
Exactly. He is just babling on about crap, for an unknown reason.
If you want speed, go and tryout ABrowse. Other then that, IE is not much faster (or slower) then FF. Oh, and IE8 passes the Acid2 test, which FF2 does not (At least last time i checked).
Which means that IE is improving...How about that, software that is getting better. Who would of thunk it.
"It's quite obvious you're just one of those people who can't grasp the notion of standardisation. So I won't even bother."
Yes, i am quite aware of several standards. x/html and the latest html variants are all created by the same group that requires you to PAY to be apart of it. Ergo, they are not open standards -- and as such, are irrelevant to the requirements of ALL software.
based on that logic skoe, a company doesn't need to give a shit about getting an ISO qualification because you are required to pay for all that stuff too.
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every browser failed the Acid2 test when it came out, and saying that IE8 is better then FF2 is retarded as FF3 has come out and is Acid2 complient
"every browser failed the Acid2 test when it came out, and saying that IE8 is better then FF2 is retarded as FF3 has come out and is Acid2 complient"
You missed my point. They are all advancing, which means saying "X is better then Y" is stupid.
IE8's Acid2 compliance is just a few dirty hacks they put in to make it 'compliant'. Try running the Acid3 test. You'll see.
And no, I'm not babbling crap when it comes to speed at all. If you have a computer that has witnessed Windows 3.1, sure, they might be equals. But at the moment, FF3 is much, much superior to pretty much any released browser you can find (yes, even Opera). If you want to see a speed difference, try GMail.
"Yes, i am quite aware of several standards. x/html and the latest html variants are all created by the same group that requires you to PAY to be apart of it. Ergo, they are not open standards -- and as such, are irrelevant to the requirements of ALL software."
That's just an easy way of saying "they're not the standards I invented and are thus evil". And I don't know if you've lived in the real world these past few years, but having such a huge organisation that's constantly improving on standards isn't exactly cheap.
I personally can't wait to see your reply to this, might even grab a bag of popcorn while I'm at it.
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