Devilz ur an idiot U think I won you cus u got banned for 2 days LOL u was beat anyway, my fam warred every fam at some point in the round, only thig is we did it in style. U farmed 1k planets in a week oh wow hats off to you so much skill involved there hahahaa douche my fam are the true overall winners of the round, fact. Dick.

In the sense of winning the round, which evidently is subjective [masking] Lee and 02 won this round.

From day one Lee has laid out every detail of the infra strat that shot us past everyone else at SoR.
He tried getting each and every fam member involved and invested in the fam and its workings, which in part is why we have alot more active people than other fams. While other fams made such douchebag moves that made fam members leave

Your spirit of "conflict above anything else" Devilz is dragging your at some point decent rep down in the mud.

Winning size is one thing, how you win it is another

lol Hoffman

we fight bigger teams all round, how we did it was insane

lol you think you win cause you leader orgainized the best.

lol make a voting thread for that,.

we all know we battle for size here.

anyone can jump NW.

Pissed some of you might be. But I must admit Devilz had done a really good job at motivating the team at doing an almost impossible job with shitty infra.

The fam hit quite a number of rocks and all of us could very well have gone inactive. (e.g. being raided by 03 and 99 for a week, trying to clear 02 off our core, Devilz getting blocked and losing 300+ planets to them because of that,  and falling 500-600+ behind in planet counts with shitty infra). The fact is the fam recovered while most fams would have gone inactive.

For most of the round, we fought bigger fams with much bigger fleets. But we still somehow survived and still gained quite a bit from a couple of these fams. To finally turn the table, I think this is a rather amazing feat in itself and Devilz had a large role to play in it.

P.S. Btw, I think the reason that Flashy's fam got raided so hard was because 02 saw us catching up and that was what they had to do to give themselves some buffer.

P.S.S For some reason, it seems that most ppl don't like us winning size. (I'm referring to 98 btw for the raid in the last tick which dropped us behind 02 by 100+ planets.) Honestly we thought we wouldn't make it.

(40 mins before round ends)
16:22:49     Devilzz:  looks like we lost

@Iditioc if Devilz fam would have won the round in size it would have been because of the "abuse" of the NW rule.

The only way his fam could get this high in planet count is by "abusing" the NW rule. If he would have gone into a fair batlle amongst most of the fams without passing planets to players with only 1 million NW he would not even be in top 3 by size.
So instead of confronting a battle he avoided most of the battles by this move. Smart yes but like I said before Mods should look at this rule.

I would say that you can't attack a player under 35% of your NW unless the planets have been involved in the war between both fam's.

And Idiotic you referring to a raid made by 98. If you guys would have been in range you would not have been able to take that many planets. And yes we didn't want you to win size because of the "abuse" of the NW range. Devilz fam made some mistakes in passing the planets to lower NW planets and he tought his trick would lead him to the win in size. But even with only 4 players active in 98 we were able to prevent him from taking that win in size.

Admit that you would have 600 planets less if you didn't pass them to lower players and fought the real "conflict" where  Devilz is referring to. As far as for 98 I can say we didn't fought a war with 97 as they were way out of range and would have been crushed if they were in range.

thats exactly it spyro well done.

They hid under nw all round purposefuly dodging the top teams, when he hit me he had to do it sneakily, as i was about to war 01, they mass cleared our defensless spread but we still smashed him, devilz is not good, he has no clue about econ and strategy, he is not a good leader, his attacking was mediocre at best, the only thing he had was the keep going attitude, farming render to shit, just to win size to try show how big his dick is, when really he couldnt compete with the top teams, that was proven since SOR.

Acted shady, helped other fams, ruined wars, farmed a family into the point they left IC, hes a cancer to this game, a fiend, no wonder Torqez left that family, i would have done the same.

You see spyro, thats the difference between him and us.

My fam coulda had 5k planets easy, we could have toppled everyone but we played the fair game, napped when it was right, my mistake of the round; Not farming 97 to shit when i had them on there knees. Too nice for my own good.

ok devilz im done proving my point, you know why, because i dont need too

Cya next round

Torqez make the map a bit bigger this time and the round longer. ty

Retired~ Back to Back to Back Starburst winner
2257 planet(s) captured by StormTrooper.

Of wich 2198 passed to players with only 1 million NW so they couldn't be retaken. :-)

sure with any good attacker i need someone to unload too,

1789 planet(s) swapped to Idiotic.
1178 planet(s) swapped to NME.
899 planet(s) swapped to Easyway.
615 planet(s) swapped to PP.
575 planet(s) swapped to fruitloops.
323 planet(s) swapped to WhiteHeaven.
262 planet(s) swapped to Bib Fortuna.

im not angry from the raping from lee. I was annoyed for my fam rather than myself. athena hades ares and others worked hard & because of your cowardice they got mown over, at least a lot quicker than what could have happened.

I can read perfectly thanks. I see nothing wrong with giving planets to smaller players, its a perfectly legit tactic. There are ways to counter it and no one did.

Yes it was very interesting, I wont have time to lead and pretty sure I don't want to (too much effort!). I will happily play with anyone, sometimes playing with enemies from previous rounds can be very interesting.

Its hard to answear those coordinated attacks with low playercount and activity in fam

Devilz does not make this game better for sure, neither in the short run or long run of the entire game.
What 02 did is the purpose of the game, and there should be more like it fighting within the NW range.

Edit:

Regarding upkeep...

It is to easy to neglect the upeekp part of this game.

what I mean is that not paying upkeep is to easy, eg you lose to little or the risk is to low

There should be a penalty where you lose planets to a "cumputer related or AI player" ingame regarding upkeep.

Like a rebellion fighting you and making you not own the planet.. maybe the AI builds Cfs and lasers.. so ther is a bonus and negative side by losing it etc..

2nd Edit:

Having 2000+ planets and NW of 1 popbanker makes it look retarded.. wtf happen to the other players? to many Pnaps? Planets are worth nothing unless there is high infra % on them.

In the hall of fame there should be a record of the player played in the family that won, 2nd place etc.. not if the player was the most planet fat/nw fat..

players that actually made a difference in a fam get rewared by getting 100th place in planets/NW while actually making the fam reach top or 2nd place etc.