If they want to die they are not in full possession of their mental faculties.   This sort of nonsense is going to lead to hundreds of teen girls killing themselves for being fat and lonely and the authorities refusing to step in.  It's their RIGHT!

We know from the Dutch example that dozens of patients were killed without making a request.  And then we have the example of the Liverpool Care Pathway which does the same thing by withholding water, without patient's requesting it.

What I can choose for myself, the state can ordain for me.  Especially medical care if I'm "incapable" of deciding, in the state's opinion.

United Kingdom

Error, Oregon was first with "doctor assisted suicide".

Oregon has been rocked with scandal as some people with cancer and other potentially terminal diseases asked for experimental medicines which showed great promise to be turned down by the Oregon public health system and in the same letter being told that they qualify for full funding of the doctor assisted suicide if they desire.

>.you are aware this involuntary euthanasia thing in holland is fictional, right?<<

Not according to the Dutch government.

>>as far as lonely fat girls requesting euthanasia en masse (teehee), surely that'd be stopped by either their parents and/or the psychological report. its not a matter of feeling blue for 5 minutes, walking to the local apothecary and being served with a lethal dose.<<

I worked copying medical records in ahospital with a bulimic unit.  I'd have to go up there to copy the files for the court appearance because the girl was being committed.  It's not cheerful seeing a 45 kilo teen who drinks 12 cans of soda to vomit all her food up to lose fat.  Right now, if they wanted actually to die,  it would be proof of mental illness. The desire itself would be mental illness.  We gain nothing by saying, "OK wait, maybe she's got a point".

My grandpa was given 6 months to live, 15 years ago. Still the same breathing grumpy man.

Sometimes terminal is not.

Some more info:

Every doctor can choose not to do it. If the question is put to a doctor multiple times by a child and he wants to go further with it, he has to consult a second doctor first. A third doctor needs to examine if the child is capable of making rational decisions about the matter. If he decides this is not the case, he can veto the procedure. (Most importantly I don't know if they can try to counter it in any way from that point on but found nothing about it in sources on the internet). The medical team needs to examine every alternative solution and supply info to the parents.

In contrast to adults, a child needs to be terminally ill (sorry Primo ). Or that is what they told us in the media, I didn't read the entire law. Only a few children each year have the right conditions for this law to apply, and even fewer of them will proly make use of it.

children need to hear that life is worth living and their despair can be corrected as a learned behavior

anything else is cruel and a waste of humans

I've never understood why suicide is illegal. If somebody wants to kill themselves, who are you to deny them that?

There are hundreds, thousands, probably more than tens of thousands who lost their joy in life then regained it.

This is a part of life.

holds no weight with me, because I remember when no decent psychiatrist supported euthanasia.

The medical profession has no innate sense of morals, they must be governed by others not in their profession.  They proved that in the 20th century by supporting mass ethnic cleansing, euthanasia of "undesirables" and experimenting on lesser races, both in America and Europe and Asia