Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

Remind me of the international convention that prohibits the US Govt and the Govt of Libya from negotiating a counter-terrorist rescue effort between themselves regarding Libyan soil

I remind you the Libyan government was saying it was Al Qaeda while Obama and Hillary were still lying about mob riot over a videotape

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

Her supporters, like Obama's (since they're the same people) don't care about any of the points you raised. Or any others. None of Hilary's supporters know about her family's bloody history. They don't care about ACA's damage to our insurance and healthcare industries. They wouldn't care if she assassinated US personnel in Libya herself.

They vote for her because they're intellectually lazy debt slaves and the huge monoparty political establishment in Amerika tells them she's the candidate who cares about the middle class. Some are the bleeding hearts who think the Tea Party wants Africans enslaved and women in the kitchen by law. Many vote for whoever offers the most handouts, regardless of anything else.

Your points offer no insight as to Hilary's chances in the upcoming election. Most are obviously intentionally nonsensical. And the ones with legitimate substance are irrelevant; her supporters are absolutely unaware of and unconcerned with them.

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

CIA agents on the ground in Benghazi testified to lawmakers they were loaded into vehicles and ready to aid the besieged U.S. special mission on Sept. 11, 2012, but were told by superiors to “wait,” a congressman privy to the testimony has revealed.

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

What happens when the Republican throws a blue handball into her crotch at the first debate and she goes down screaming "MY BALLS"

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

HA! ya got nothin

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

http://conservativefiringline.com/bombs … zi-attack/

So Delta Force happened to be nearby, and were kept away from saving an Ambassador. Did she want him dead?

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

I heard it was a registered Republican that ordered the wait.

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

Date of Behngazi attack: September 11, 2012.  Aproximate battle time four hours.

CIA director during time of attack, David H. Patraeus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus

David Patraeus stepped down in November, due to an "ongoing investigation" which delt with an "extramarital affair."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/pet … d=17706615

In which the story relates that David, believes that he shouldn't be allowed to testify, because it would be a "media circus". 

My bet?  That during the attack, the CIA chain of command were attempting to contact the CIA director of this problem, but were unable to reach him.  Reasonings for being unable to reach the acting director of the CIA...everything from being "unavailable" to "getting  a blow job".  As Bill Clinton would say, everything comes to head.   Unfortunately from past reading material, and public disclosure of members within the CIA, there is a culture of "cover your ass", within the CIA ranks.  The joke is, a DEPUTY CIA director can not take a piss without permission from the head Director of the CIA.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/petraeus-te … zi-attack/

In which the story shows, that instead of attacking Hillary Clinton, the republican members attacked Rice.  Who would have been up for Hillary's job.  Showing the attack was meant to pin embarresment, or a floozy excuse to stop her nomination appointment to the State Department head.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/15/politics/ … index.html

Shows that there was discrepencies about the contracted security forces and civilians on location during the attack, and the CIA attempting to curtail the involvment of those people to properly testify before a closed congressional hearing.

I've did about 36 seperate searches, unfortunately during those searches, no CIA operative has been named, IN PERSON, to have communicated directly with the radio operations at the base in question that came under attack.  The person who ordered the "Wait" directive...has never been named.  On one hand, we do know that a radio for help was made from the base.  What is not given in the story, is the CIA agent that responded to the call for help over the radio.  In fact, I can find no mention of this one man, or woman in any news story, or congressional release, under the Freedom of Information act.

In fact, the only thing that can be confirmed is that the call for help was sent.  The call was then received.  We had mobilized forces ready to go.  But, it does not state any name of who told the troops to wait.  No name is given.

We have an acting CIA director who resigned, not due to the attack on Benghazi, but an extra-marital affair, in less than two months.  By his own admission, didn't really want to testify at the hearing, but did so.  That the talking points used by both the CIA and Congress were "changed" during the proceedings, to name officials which were not appraised of the attack when it occured on the date in question.

If anything, the trail fully begins and stops with the CIA operatives who were in control of operations.  No known names of those operatives have been publically disclosed on the radio receiving, and in fact were never questioned, since the information has not been publically disclosed.  For all intent and purposes, it looks like the CIA dropped the ball.  In fact the public speakings points were not directed towards "Who was in command, in order to help facilitate rescue", but more of, who attacked.

Even after a fully year, the speaking points did not choose a path of who ordered the, "Wait."

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

That's naive and silly.

Someone on top wanted him dead. Maybe he had cold feet about arming Syrian radicals. He's dead so he can't talk. Mission accomplished.

Who else could order such a cover-up? No one.

Therefore my hypothesis has no rational challenges at this time.

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

No, I didn't switch from Rice to Hillary.

Everybody involved sucks rhino.  From Obama on down to theater command. 

I read WW2 history about how Fitzroy MacClean was sending radio messages from Dalmatia to Cairo for air support from Italy to bomb Germans he discovered, and getting the raid off that same day.  Those were guys who wanted to fight.

Obama & Co. don't. 

Key I had heard nine hours not four.  Not that it matters, cause nobody knows how long the firefight will last once it starts.  If they launched and got there hours too late, we'd bitch about it, but not as much as not lifting a fricking finger because we can't react 4 air hours from NATO anymore.

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

in one thread Key says no cover ups of General firings, here he says a cover up of a General being fired.

Must get hard to keep your agitproping up.

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

smile You wank, he had retired from the armed services, when he held the post of CIA director.  Active military personal are not allowed to serve on an executive security branch.  The picture only shows him in army uniform you freak.

And it's the CIA.  Come on.

Don't deter the question.

A man on a radio called for help.  He is not named.

A man received the radio call for help, and then advised his superiors.

There's a CHAIN of men who have not been named, on who sent the call, who received the call, and all the people that were "advised" of the situation.  And the situation, said by all, was most chaotic.

So what is the name of the jerk off that received the radio call.  Who is the jerk off that was advised by the person that received the radio call.  And who said, "Wait for further instructions."  AT NO TIME, during this congressional hearing were names given.  Even if I WAS PUT IN CHARGE, there is a SMALL chain of people that you could follow AND back track, in order to find out who gave the order.  And at the final destination, THEN, get the final answer as for what the reasoning was for withholding immediate help.

Were their more enemy forces, waiting to ambush additional forces?  Unknown.

Was there an ulterior motive by CIA deputy directors, WITHIN THAT REGION, to withhold ground forces?  Unknown.

Your all not even asking the important questions.

This whole thing is just political bullshit, aimed at screwing political opponents that the republicans would rather NOT see in office.

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Re: Why Hillary would lose in 2016

Your logic is as flawed as your English.

We know for a fact that many personnel were held back from helping. We know that 2 men were able to hold out for hours. We know that there's a coverup, because we were lied to from the beginning and all of the witnesses who were there that night have been kept from not only the media, but from Congress.

Keep lying to us. It really builds a strong argument.

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