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Boys From The Dwarf (#10070) has declared a non-aggression pact with Tales of the Golden Guns (#10067).


NAP with 67 back on no one seems to know what went wrong.

Had 3 messages so far from 67 saying they did not cancel.


I also know we did not offer 63 a NAP


So sure in my eyes our Diplo page has been hit. 


Funny thing is our family is really just playing for fun, did not know we were that much of a threat lol

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vice leaders... can't thrust them

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You're more likely to declare war on people if you were hacked, someone in your family and someone in 67 have been messing around.

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Think they didn't want any Toast   sad


Are you a waffle man?

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rizz wrote:

i will say dont trust any agreements with mortal kombat i know golden eye family had a CF with them and they used it to portal close to us and then hit us hard. good move on thier part just pretty shady. the round aint over yet and i know my family will try our hardest to win.


Rizz you're totally out to lunch on this one mate.  We negotiated a CF with borders...you explored a bunch of planets over the border...ICD said it was an accident....but then that accident continued...explored right in the middle of our core and started laser-trapping it...lol.

Say what you want, but those are the complete unbias facts.  No one would maintain a CF with you guys when you didn't honor the agreement....so good luck with that.

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RareUK, kalm down I think you're konfused by something thats very kommon in this game, nobody haked anything LOL, in any kase it is your fault for not taking those 3 planets in time as agreed, suposedly you were hurry to take them, but they're standing defenseless for 3 days now.

And as you like to post private msgs in publik forums, I'll do the same:


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I am not sure why but someone in your family canceled the NAP sad so attacks start today, like stated we had no ill intent against your family and all we are doing is making it easier for someone else to win, does your family not understand that a certain other family WANT US to knock chucks out of each other so they can steam roller over us both.

We have been saving to hit another family wasn't even planning on touching you in fact if you had waited would have probably ended up helping you a lot in the long run.

Why do you think we offered you that NAP and did not continue with 71 and attack you more. Think you will find were not here to win were here just to have fun really, were happy for you to grow hence offering you said NAP, to see it canceled so soon is a mistake, just going to make us weaker whilst others grow.
Signed, Driven UK of WarChild UK (#10070)
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Can you please confirm what is going on in your family?

Honestly we cleared about 15 planets and even left you with some so you could still fight 71.

Honestly think your leader needs to chill out a bit. 71 must have raped two hundred planets from you and wiped infra.

All we did was take 12 or 15 planets back in our core and honestly man none of them had infra on, out of all the planets I tuck about 3 had infra on all the rest were bare
Signed, Driven UK of WarChild UK (#10070)

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they have been undefended for 3 days waiting for you to take them.
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what are you saying? dont be paranoid, you have to take those 3 planets from Natalya as stated in the nap, and then sign it at relations.
Obviously somebody in my fam kanzeled the nap bkause you were not signing bak, but that's just bekause you have to take those 3, and then sign.
It's all ok, the nap is signed and if you attak any other than those 3 you'd be breaking it unilateraly.
Nobody is gonna attak your fam, I'm the VL that sorted our nap and I'm the only one you have to talk to.

~Render
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I dont want to post here our nap, signed by both sides, but to make a summary of what I posted above,, the nap is offizial, signed, and NEVER kanzeled (bekause it needs notifikation and 24h to get kanzeled).  So
-If 70 attaks 67  (other than those 3 planets)  then 70 is breaking a NAP
-If 67 attaks 70  then 67 is breaking a NAP, and I will delete bekause it is MY WORD & MY JOB what is being questioned.

And I play with HONOR

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Thanks for clarifying that Render, makes more sense than any other potential reason behind it all. I'm not in either family but have an outsiders interest in terms of if there was any insecurity in the game. It helps confirm what my investigations revealed, that it had nothing to do with hacking.

Insanity and genius are closely related!
*** Eltie for mod! ***
Failing Lemming of Teachings and Australian Cop Orgies: Gwynedd

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Mangoza wrote:
rizz wrote:

i will say dont trust any agreements with mortal kombat i know golden eye family had a CF with them and they used it to portal close to us and then hit us hard. good move on thier part just pretty shady. the round aint over yet and i know my family will try our hardest to win.


Rizz you're totally out to lunch on this one mate.  We negotiated a CF with borders...you explored a bunch of planets over the border...ICD said it was an accident....but then that accident continued...explored right in the middle of our core and started laser-trapping it...lol.

Say what you want, but those are the complete unbias facts.  No one would maintain a CF with you guys when you didn't honor the agreement....so good luck with that.

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I think nobody has to show at this stage what are 71 low taktiks, people has notized by themselves.  Yes we had a ZF and 71 broke it unilateraly, what's the problem?? NONE.   A zf is a zf and is to be broken unless a konkrete date is agreed.   You guys broke it and I have nothing against it, also we have a nap now, and this past stuff smells. 
Its obvious 71 is playing the evil party this round and showing an unquestioned domination over the other suposed kontenders, and that, despite its fair or evil, is a DAMN GOOD STRATEGY.

For any others here whining about 71 being sooo untrustworth, eat it with zheaps, this is Imperial Konflikt, not the house of merzy.

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just to be clear 71 hasnt won anything yet.. why do u guys get so down and out.. shit 71 hit us twice lol.. still recovered.. we will catch back up.. we just had to cut our losses

Confront them with annihilation, and they will then survive; plunge them into a deadly situation, and they will then live. When people fall into danger, they are then able to strive for victory.

Sun Tzu

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I'm so bored as a banker this round.

Next time I'm defo gonna revert back to being an attacker.

So easy to own IC nowadays....
smile

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Legion wrote:

I'm so bored as a banker this round.

Next time I'm defo gonna revert back to being an attacker.

So easy to own IC nowadays....
smile

Smaller player base can definitely make the game less competitive.  There's only a handful of players left, most of which are either consolidated in the top 5 with the rest being spread thin across all the other families.

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{Black Mafia} IC Death wrote:

just to be clear 71 hasnt won anything yet.. why do u guys get so down and out.. shit 71 hit us twice lol.. still recovered.. we will catch back up.. we just had to cut our losses


Only way I see #71 not winning is, if 70/74/67 striking 71 after they are done killing us (which is pretty much soon).  The smart thing our family should have done was just to pay the 60 planets and live to fight another day, but heck this is a game.  I, and my family personally do not find it fun to give into demands of bullies even if it resorts to our demise.  They caught us off guard with portals in process so we couldn't really stage much of a fight, so I hope all the other families are fully portalled before #71 comes fist blazing into your face smile.

Oh, another way #71 doesn't win is if they eliminate all competition, gets bored and goes inactive haha.

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{Black Mafia} IC Death wrote:

just to be clear 71 hasnt won anything yet.. why do u guys get so down and out.. shit 71 hit us twice lol.. still recovered.. we will catch back up.. we just had to cut our losses


Well said big_smile

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Gwynedd wrote:

Thanks for clarifying that Render, makes more sense than any other potential reason behind it all. I'm not in either family but have an outsiders interest in terms of if there was any insecurity in the game. It helps confirm what my investigations revealed, that it had nothing to do with hacking.

Thank you for looking into this big_smile perhaps I over reacted lol, but yes diplo page deff was changed, and did confuse me getting messages from other families saying similar sort of stuff, but yes thanks for looking into this big_smile also thanks to Render for pointing out what could have happened and stuff, am sure if there was a bug or foul play then Render would sniff it out lol.


However to answer your question about the three planets thing I did send to those planets, you posted right there that I sent to them and I was asked nicely to wait (so I did wait) but no one got back to me and told me to take them when I asked.   Have sent again now.

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{Black Mafia} IC Death wrote:

just to be clear 71 hasnt won anything yet.. why do u guys get so down and out.. shit 71 hit us twice lol.. still recovered.. we will catch back up.. we just had to cut our losses


lol exactly, just cause we are powerful now doesnt mean we cant be brought down or other catch up, all it takes is the wrong battle at the wrong time, this battle with 66 is not one of them, they are only helping us out by not growing as quick as we should getting into range of everyone else tongue
only planets they took really was comp from 67 and some new empty e ships that were being past on,

66 has now been pushed out of 10 or so systems with more to come, i am not trying to farm, all i asked for was i was going to take, now i am a bully cause you wanna threaten my round? now we are up by over 100 and we arent stopping, until you want us to.

all this stuff about catching you off gaurd, any of team could have done what we did, you should always be ready. + has huge fact that in the first hour i tricked your main attacker and got all his portals defencess, hard to fight a war from your core...

now lets all get back to fighting, i know if you did less time bitching in the forums and more time planning (doing retakes properly tongue) you might have had a shot at slowing us down.

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Cool story bro.

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IF Render is in 71 definately don't give them the win already.

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What can I say, #71 is doing such a awesome job at knocking down our portals and opping us to death that we can't really do a good job retaking.  I'll compliment you guys on certainly investing a lot in lasers on the the planets we have lost, had to keep up with bombers =P

That being said, in the end it's just a game smile  If you want to lie/bully your way up to rank 1, sure.  My family and I are pretty stubborn and refuse to pay anything for NAPS.  If you want the planets, come take them, we will do our limited best to defend them smile.

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LG wrote:

IF Render is in 71 definately don't give them the win already.

Naw he's not in our family, he's in 67 who will do well no matter how many wars they get into.   Might not win, but number one spot is always up for grabs.

On another note, bullying is a ridiculous word to be used in this game.   I think might happen in the forum from time to time, but in the game there is no such thing as bullying, only winners and losers lol.

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I don't see how 71 are bullying anyone. They are doing exactly what the game is all about and there doing it in style. They may of already won the round but you get what you deserve and they deserve it.

In peace we train for war, in war we fight for peace.

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Mangoza wrote:
LG wrote:

IF Render is in 71 definately don't give them the win already.

Naw he's not in our family, he's in 67 who will do well no matter how many wars they get into.   Might not win, but number one spot is always up for grabs.

On another note, bullying is a ridiculous word to be used in this game.   I think might happen in the forum from time to time, but in the game there is no such thing as bullying, only winners and losers lol.

Man you guys have some interesting definitions then =P

Using the threat of force to demand something you want isn't bullying.

Attacking / opping isn't war.

And telling something that isn't true isn't a lie.


Can't wait to hear what's next to correct my definitions smile

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Xelus wrote:
Mangoza wrote:
LG wrote:

IF Render is in 71 definately don't give them the win already.

Naw he's not in our family, he's in 67 who will do well no matter how many wars they get into.   Might not win, but number one spot is always up for grabs.

On another note, bullying is a ridiculous word to be used in this game.   I think might happen in the forum from time to time, but in the game there is no such thing as bullying, only winners and losers lol.

Man you guys have some interesting definitions then =P

Using the threat of force to demand something you want isn't bullying.

Attacking / opping isn't war.

And telling something that isn't true isn't a lie.


Can't wait to hear what's next to correct my definitions smile



I do believe demanding planets for any reason is still against the rules no? Plenty of evidence here... but, o'well, we need players I guess... smile

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lol yes i like the part about the lie,

considering i send a message, and you guys dont even respond to it, so obviously you take that as a hint that you are going to fight, maybe your leader should respond instead of just reading a message and thinking "oh thats nice of them" to respond and say ok we wont fight you either, you guys did nothing,

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lol @ Xelus.

Asking for planets in exchange for a NAP....is not bullying.  It's basic diplomacy.  The Pact need be fair for both parties, or else it doesn't make sense.  One fam loses a target, and the other is no longer targeted...is typically how the pacts work.  No one forced you to sign or not sign a NAP, they forced you to make a decision, one which you are paying for dearly now....and as you noted in a previous post, probably the wrong one tongue

Attacking/opping...well as far as I'm concerned, everything is war, because it's a war game, but for the purpose of the game, attacking and opping does not constitute war.  There is a declare war button on the relations page that constitutes war which has some benefits and drawbacks as we are all well aware. 

However, I think you should be more concerned with family decision-making rather than defining terms.